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General discussionGoG, transparency, and game curation(168 posts)(168 posts)
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Posted May 22, 2019
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richlind33: You might be less tired if you stayed out of them. ;p
That's fair... I've been irritable lately. Probably best not to spoil for a fight.
Posted May 22, 2019
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kai2: 1) release a breakdown regarding your reasonings for accepting / rejecting each game.
This would be suicide for GOG, as it would scare a lot of developers away. No developer wants a potential store criticising their game publically by the store they are trying to get in.
Posted May 22, 2019
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kai2: GoG,

As you can certainly tell from the forum recently, there is some worry about the lack of transparency in your game acceptance / rejection process. This worry has built into confusion about your methods and even anger regarding your perceived motives. All of this could be alleviated if you would simply do one thing:

1) release a breakdown regarding your reasonings for accepting / rejecting each game.

This would show your specific reasoning and build confidence in your system... and build greater validity to your curation. It would aid community building while keeping control of conspiracy theories and anger.

Transparency would benefit both you and the community. I hope you will see the benefits and institute making this information public.
You should just vote with your wallet If they don't care you shouldn't care and move to another platform for your gaming needs. The whole problem with curation is your subject to somebody else his taste and we all know how bias people are against Japanese games or their personal biases, Barely anybody these days is neutral in their stance of professionalism you can just look at game devs that attack their fans for having a different opinion by labeling them as racist sexist or any other word that makes them feel they got the high ground.

We now know you just get copy pasted replies when you contact them so that already shows how little they care.
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StingingVelvet: Why do they owe you this information?
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clarry: It's always fun when a sincere post is immediately met with such a passive aggressive dismissal.

Love y'all.
he is the perfect example of the mindless masses that would rather remain ignorant than actually stand for something and want to know the truth behind things or even dare question things, to begin with. Gotta love these NPC type people that just accept anything a company decides for them.
Post edited May 22, 2019 by dgnfly
Posted May 22, 2019
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kai2: 1) release a breakdown regarding your reasonings for accepting / rejecting each game.
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tomimt: This would be suicide for GOG, as it would scare a lot of developers away. No developer wants a potential store criticising their game publically by the store they are trying to get in.
They already drive potential devs away with rejections.
Posted May 22, 2019
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kai2: 1) release a breakdown regarding your reasonings for accepting / rejecting each game.
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tomimt: This would be suicide for GOG, as it would scare a lot of developers away. No developer wants a potential store criticising their game publically by the store they are trying to get in.
I'd wager that the vast majority of devs would *welcome* seeing clearly stated, objective criteria for game acceptance on GOG.
Posted May 22, 2019
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kai2: You feel the need to attack me for posting a solution to an issue and assume that I haven't read anything on the subject. You want to undercut my argument not on its merits (or lack thereof) but instead as superfluous spam. Gothcha. Interesting condescension.

I posted this as a new thread because the old threads are in fact "old," are pages and pages of indirect, meandering replies, and from what I read they offer no specific solutions. This thread offers a simple and very specific solution to the problem. It may not be perfect, but it is specific.

I'm sorry you're offended by people "cluttering" your message board by offering solutions. Hope you can forgive me.
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firstpastthepost: Maybe I was a touch harsh. I'm just tired of these endless threads. Sorry.
Nobody is forcing you to participate in the discussion, You can just ignore and move along but some people would rather question than remain ignorant, And even if the question is somewhat answered there still remain Questions that GOG refuses to be clear about so they only got themselves to blame. It's better to question than remain silent regardless of how many times the subject has been discussed.
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tomimt: This would be suicide for GOG, as it would scare a lot of developers away. No developer wants a potential store criticising their game publically by the store they are trying to get in.
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richlind33: I'd wager that the vast majority of devs would *welcome* seeing clearly stated, objective criteria for game acceptance on GOG.
You can already see the problems with unclear Curation with Steam backstabbing VN publishers or even sony new censorship policy that is costing Japanese devs boatloads of money even demanding they pay for English speaking staff to communicate in English while they themselves have a Japanese branch that could deal with those issues.
Post edited May 22, 2019 by dgnfly
Posted May 22, 2019
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Attacking StingingVelvet?


Okay, well that's the end of this forum.

At this point even Mother Theresa would get chewed out in here. XD
Posted May 22, 2019
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richlind33: I'd wager that the vast majority of devs would *welcome* seeing clearly stated, objective criteria for game acceptance on GOG.
Privately, not publically.
Posted May 23, 2019
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StingingVelvet: Why do they owe you this information? Any kind of curation means someone will be mad X game didn't make it, they'd have to explain every decision about thousands of RPG Maker crap titles and whatnot. It would be insane.

Curate and people complain, don't curate and people complain. There's no answer that makes everyone happy.
Also, for the record, there are also dozens of RPGMaker titles that are better than most AAA games.

They tend to all be lumped together, and refused out of hand, due to the number of bad ones released that use the engine.
Posted May 23, 2019
They don't need 'transparency' so much as they need simply to abolish curation, period.
Posted May 23, 2019
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kai2: You feel the need to attack me for posting a solution to an issue and assume that I haven't read anything on the subject. You want to undercut my argument not on its merits (or lack thereof) but instead as superfluous spam. Gothcha. Interesting condescension.

I posted this as a new thread because the old threads are in fact "old," are pages and pages of indirect, meandering replies, and from what I read they offer no specific solutions. This thread offers a simple and very specific solution to the problem. It may not be perfect, but it is specific.

I'm sorry you're offended by people "cluttering" your message board by offering solutions. Hope you can forgive me.
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firstpastthepost: Maybe I was a touch harsh. I'm just tired of these endless threads. Sorry.
I appreciate that. Thank you. Your perspective is understood as well.

As an amateur game dev, I would certainly love to know what issues would potentially cause my game(s) to be refused curation instead of leaving everything to chance.

The reason I spend time thinking about any of this is because I want GoG to succeed. It is just about teh only place to purchase DRM free games (and old games) and I respect that and want teh platform to be successful.
Post edited May 23, 2019 by kai2
Posted May 23, 2019
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Waldschatten: Also, for the record, there are also dozens of RPGMaker titles that are better than most AAA games.
Hahaha... You serious?
Posted May 23, 2019
Ehm... Maybe is a subjective thing. If they like the game, it's in. If it doesn't, is not. Also, price. I remember they told the developer of Thomas Was Alone that his game was too expensive, since he refused to lower the price, they "left it out". So that. No really a method, just business and subjetiveness.
Posted May 23, 2019
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richlind33: I'd wager that the vast majority of devs would *welcome* seeing clearly stated, objective criteria for game acceptance on GOG.
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tomimt: Privately, not publically.
No, publically. There's no acceptable reason that the *criteria* used for making determinations isn't publically available.
Posted May 23, 2019
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tomimt: Privately, not publically.
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richlind33: No, publically. There's no acceptable reason that the *criteria* used for making determinations isn't publically available.
Most dont give clients any criteria upfront as to why they wont work with them.
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