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Are you sure it’s not because you guys can’t keep all this contained to one thread instead of making one every couple of hours where you blame everyone except yourselves for shitty behavior.
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ShotgunLincoln: Are you sure it’s not because you guys can’t keep all this contained to one thread instead of making one every couple of hours where you blame everyone except yourselves for shitty behavior.
What are you contributing to this thread it's us who pay KOTAKU and other pseudo gamer websites for blackmailing CD PROJEKT?
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So they folded. Great signal to send the mob, now they know GOG will be their bitch every time.
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Garrison72: So they folded. Great signal to send the mob, now they know GOG will be their bitch every time.
I guess we know which "mob" you're affiliated with -- the sore losers.

Crying and whining isn't going to change any of this, so take a spoonful of cement, harden the fck up, and do something that might improve your standing -- like self-improvement. o.O
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ShotgunLincoln: Are you sure it’s not because you guys can’t keep all this contained to one thread instead of making one every couple of hours where you blame everyone except yourselves for shitty behavior.
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K_4-far: What are you contributing to this thread it's us who pay KOTAKU and other pseudo gamer websites for blackmailing CD PROJEKT?
The idea that kotaku is blackmailing cdpr is interesting. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. There is almost no way to reach a conclusion like that without making some impressive leaps of imagination.

What did kotaku do that constitutes blackmail?
Usually someone perpetrates blackmail for a benefit, what did kotaku gain from said blackmail if it happened?
How did kotaku build a base of co-conspirators across multiple platforms to perpetuate said blackmail?

None of this adds up once you start thinking about it does it?
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richlind33: I guess we know which "mob" you're affiliated with -- the sore losers.

Crying and whining isn't going to change any of this, so take a spoonful of cement, harden the fck up, and do something that might improve your standing -- like self-improvement. o.O
Self improvement requires self reflection.... something I don't think many of the people complaining about this are currently capable of.
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Garrison72: So they folded. Great signal to send the mob, now they know GOG will be their bitch every time.
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richlind33: I guess we know which "mob" you're affiliated with -- the sore losers.

Crying and whining isn't going to change any of this, so take a spoonful of cement, harden the fck up, and do something that might improve your standing -- like self-improvement. o.O
I don't spend my time trying to coerce companies to obey my will cuz hurt feels, which likely puts me a rung or two above you.
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K_4-far: What are you contributing to this thread it's us who pay KOTAKU and other pseudo gamer websites for blackmailing CD PROJEKT?
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firstpastthepost: The idea that kotaku is blackmailing cdpr is interesting. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. There is almost no way to reach a conclusion like that without making some impressive leaps of imagination.

What did kotaku do that constitutes blackmail?
Usually someone perpetrates blackmail for a benefit, what did kotaku gain from said blackmail if it happened?
How did kotaku build a base of co-conspirators across multiple platforms to perpetuate said blackmail?

None of this adds up once you start thinking about it does it?
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richlind33: I guess we know which "mob" you're affiliated with -- the sore losers.

Crying and whining isn't going to change any of this, so take a spoonful of cement, harden the fck up, and do something that might improve your standing -- like self-improvement. o.O
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firstpastthepost: Self improvement requires self reflection.... something I don't think many of the people complaining about this are currently capable of.
I'm sure Darwinism will get it sorted, if our feckless "leaders" don't.

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richlind33: I guess we know which "mob" you're affiliated with -- the sore losers.

Crying and whining isn't going to change any of this, so take a spoonful of cement, harden the fck up, and do something that might improve your standing -- like self-improvement. o.O
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Garrison72: I don't spend my time trying to coerce companies to obey my will cuz hurt feels, which likely puts me a rung or two above you.
It might, except that I've always had a rather deep hatred of the mob mentality -- and those who succumb to it.

So why is it that that possibility didn't occur to you? ;p
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firstpastthepost: Yeah I wouldn’t want the crowd trying to help Linko trying to come to my rescue.

And before you say it. Yes I know you wouldn’t come to my rescue.
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Telika: I don't know you (and I tend to support people based on what they did more than who they are), but I had posted in support for Linko, in that thread.

My point was that his tweet wasn't an attack on trans people, and that it had been abusively interpreted as such. Seeing the support of all those people who frankly wouldn't mind an attack on trans people (and claiming to fight for "free speech", with the caveat that I mentionned in post #2), I understand how my point could be drowned in the noise.

It would have been dismissed anyway by people who just seek internet fights and use LGBT rights as an excuse. But the honest LGBT supporters who get carried away by that crowd would have a harder time realising that they're wrong, when they see almost exclusively that sort of people on the other side. So yeah, today's surge of late supporters probably wouldn't work on Linko's favor.
The person behind the GOG.com and Cyberpunk 2077 accounts had a history of mocking LGBT people through tweets. Opinions aside, even searching for "did you just assume my gender" reveals that it's a meme used to make fun of feminists, "SJWs" and others within the LGBTQ community. Joking about the "won't be erased" hashtag was at the very least just as insensitive, because the subject dealt with the real threat of trans identities being legally erased by Trump.
I'm part of LGBT, so I wouldn't just "use LGBT rights as an excuse", and I also don't base my opinion on the matter on the behavior of anyone online but the one behind those accounts, yet the transphobia associated with CD Projekt Red on Twitter has been clear as day. I hope the decision to fire the community manager, if true, wasn't just to please people but also a representation of what the company stands for, although the lack of any official comments makes it really hard to tell.
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Roze: The person behind the GOG.com and Cyberpunk 2077 accounts had a history of mocking LGBT people through tweets. Opinions aside, even searching for "did you just assume my gender" reveals that it's a meme used to make fun of feminists, "SJWs" and others within the LGBTQ community. Joking about the "won't be erased" hashtag was at the very least just as insensitive, because the subject dealt with the real threat of trans identities being legally erased by Trump.
I'm part of LGBT, so I wouldn't just "use LGBT rights as an excuse", and I also don't base my opinion on the matter on the behavior of anyone online but the one behind those accounts, yet the transphobia associated with CD Projekt Red on Twitter has been clear as day. I hope the decision to fire the community manager, if true, wasn't just to please people but also a representation of what the company stands for, although the lack of any official comments makes it really hard to tell.
You can say what you want, but most people do not find it "clear".
"Don't assume my gender" was specifically used in response to a Tweet at GoG saying "You Guys". Taking it on it's face, it seemed he was saying not to assume everyone at GoG are "guys". Saying at GoG old classic games "Wontbeerased" isn't directly offensive either. Neither tweet directly implied any negativity to the LGBT community.

You chose to interpret it that way. The fact that you wanted to boycott and see people fired over your own perceived offense, says a lot. I feel very sorry for Linko90 who is a victim in an age of outrage. I have friends and family in the LGBT community, but they don't go out of their way to find offense and create an outrage mob over little things that to me "clearly" were not meant to be offensive at all. He never should have been fired. Relocated to a new country only to lose his job over this political outrage climate as a darn shame. But I'm willing to guess, you can care less about his feelings, because to you he is a non-person.
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Garrison72: So they folded. Great signal to send the mob, now they know GOG will be their bitch every time.
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richlind33: I guess we know which "mob" you're affiliated with -- the sore losers.

Crying and whining isn't going to change any of this, so take a spoonful of cement, harden the fck up, and do something that might improve your standing -- like self-improvement. o.O
This is an ad-hominem
And let me put it another way...
Both these Tweets, GoG apologized almost immediately when they were misinterpreted. Deleted the tweets; explained what they meant by it; and offered their apologies to those who may have felt offended.

But that isn't enough for you. No. Not only is it not enough they sacked the guy in charge. But you are now asking for Gog to publicly comment and further condemn him for it. How privileged do you have to be to think GoG must cave to your demands? Would you be happier if they strung him up on a Cross and started flogging him too? You just aren't being reasonable in your demands.
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RWarehall: You can say what you want, but most people do not find it "clear".
"Don't assume my gender" was specifically used in response to a Tweet at GoG saying "You Guys". Taking it on it's face, it seemed he was saying not to assume everyone at GoG are "guys". Saying at GoG old classic games "Wontbeerased" isn't directly offensive either. Neither tweet directly implied any negativity to the LGBT community.

You chose to interpret it that way. The fact that you wanted to boycott and see people fired over your own perceived offense, says a lot. I feel very sorry for Linko90 who is a victim in an age of outrage. I have friends and family in the LGBT community, but they don't go out of their way to find offense and create an outrage mob over little things that to me "clearly" were not meant to be offensive at all. He never should have been fired. Relocated to a new country only to lose his job over this political outrage climate as a darn shame. But I'm willing to guess, you can care less about his feelings, because to you he is a non-person.
Being hired as a community manager doesn't allow one to make all kinds of wild comments under the name of their employer. Assuming the person was behind those accounts, he should have kept his controversial jokes to himself or expressed them publicly through his personal account. Similarly, assuming he did get fired over it, CDPR had every right to do so if they felt that Linko's comments did not represent the views of the company that he's been throwing under the bus.
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richlind33: I guess we know which "mob" you're affiliated with -- the sore losers.

Crying and whining isn't going to change any of this, so take a spoonful of cement, harden the fck up, and do something that might improve your standing -- like self-improvement. o.O
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KPogorelov: This is an ad-hominem
Only to an over-sensitive hypocrite. For myself, it's sound advice and I can personally attest to it's effectiveness. ;p
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Roze: Being hired as a community manager doesn't allow one to make all kinds of wild comments under the name of their employer. Assuming the person was behind those accounts, he should have kept his controversial jokes to himself or expressed them publicly through his personal account. Similarly, assuming he did get fired over it, CDPR had every right to do so if they felt that Linko's comments did not represent the views of the company that he's been throwing under the bus.
Yeah, "wild comments". Leave it to taking all the context away and applying a completely new narrative. Thank you for confirming that you and your type can't be satisfied. Give an inch, you want to take a mile and apologies and firings, being the subject of mob harassment isn't good enough for you.

He certainly didn't make "all kinds of wild comments". He made two (if it was even the same person since multiple people might be using that account) out of hundreds of tweets. I don't find either of those to be offensive in any way whatsoever and I think there are a lot of normal people who agree with me on any side of the political spectrums.
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I wasn't aware these forums needed a lot of moderation. I've always thought most of the community was very well behaved (I don't recall ever reading anything that drove me to laughter due to its incorrectness in these forums).

I was in the Utopia forums when they transitioned from the original owner to those fellows in Ireland. Now THAT was a forum that was in dire need of some tough love from heavy handed moderators. To this day, I can't believe some of the stuff that got posted in there.

Honestly, I think in the entire time I've been here, only two of my posts have been temporarily censored (to ensure that my intention was genuine as a poster of these forums). Mind you, I'm a VERY good customer (I buy too many games, I'm getting better, but still not quite there yet) and that could be a contributing factor too.
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