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flubbucket: No.

I commented (post #50) on a quip "I'm sure I'll live." in post #45.

I didn't address it again.
Flubb! Just in time for the EOD. So what's your take on the game so far? Who is your preferred lynch and who not and why?
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JoeSapphire: hm I see you say you're not feeling it here. Maybe I'm wrong...

but then you're so passionate about his lynch you name him twice?? what am I supposed to make of this?
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Vitek: Hm, I see, throwing shades as soon as attention was brought to you.
I replied to that already and last time you seemed to take it in jest.
I put him there twice by mistake and I am doubting my read so... that's it.
I'm taking it in jest now - do you think I would use TWO question marks if I was being serious??

Hm, I see, being coolly dismissive of thrown shades...



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JoeSapphire: [blahblahblah] earlier you pointed out that he thought I was scum for voting him but then later said that he wasn't interested in voting me or something something [blahblahblahI'mJoeblahblahblah]
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Vitek: I did?

Also his reads were very off last time as well. How does that factor into your opinion?
I'm thinking of the latter half of post 276. Looking at it now I think I read a lot into it that maybe you didn't intend... I took "this is an interesting observation" as scathing sarcasm, but you could have meant anything by it.

Were his reads off as in incorrect, or off as in wishy-washy? (confession time - I didn't read huge chunks of that last game. sorry everbody! :C )


@dedoporno I don't know if you know but your unvote actually took supplementscene to L-3 (??)

I still think if vitek's unhappy with the lynch options he could be doing more than he is. But if he's working and stressed with tight deadlines and unsure what he can do I can strongly sympathise.
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HypersomniacLive: Dang, you deciphered my code-speak way too easily. Is the game giving you an indigestion?
That would explain the vague icky-ness I was feeling last night.

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HypersomniacLive: I know you say you don't know what to make of it, but why do you think Lifthrasil may be trying to make Vitek vote for him?
After reading Lift's post, I took a moment to try and figure out what he was going for.
1) He could possibly be trying to cover for you pre-emptively. This doesn't make much sense though, since you have basically no pressure.
2) He's prompting Vitek to vote for one of Vitek's scum reads. Quoting from Vitek's post 200: "So Dessimu, Lift, scen or Lift prehaps". Everyone and their grandma noticed Lift's name was in Vitek's short list twice, which might or might not be a mistake on Vitek's part (Pre-post edit: which has been clarified as a mistake). Was Lift asking Vitek to vote for Lift? This also didn't really make sense, except maybe as W/W, I guess?
3) Lift is just encouraging/pushing Vitek to place a real vote. This could be any alignment of Lift.

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Bookwyrm627: [...] I could easily go for either SPF or Lift, if the wagons shift in those directions. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Your current choice is Vitek, and you'd easily go for Lifthrasil, while the two of them were at each others' throats. Does this mean you read that as w/w? If so, what makes you read it that way?
Thus far, I've been considering each player's alignment independently, not in relation to other players.

I haven't considered whether Poppy/Lift might be W/W. I don't know Poppy well enough to guess how she might handle such a play, but it is entirely reasonable to think that scum!Lift might get in a 'fight' with his scum buddies.

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Bookwyrm627: [...] Not the only risk I'm willing to take, but more on that later. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: As in later in D1, or later in the game?
Unlikely but possible in D1, depending on how things shake out. Otherwise later in the game (or post game, if I end up dead before revealing and anyone remembers to ask).

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gogtrial34987: For the record, in case of last minute shenanigans, I wouldn't support lynching ... Bookwyrm today.
Huh. Do I need therapy if anyone who isn't willing to lynch me looks a little suspicious to me?

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mchack: I don't think it "naturally follows that one can point to a single night kill as being indicative of there being a vig."
not at all. That's what I meant with non sequitur. And you are the only one that keeps saying it would follow in any way.
Meh. SPF is pretty much speaking my mind on that whole "If you're vig, don't kill tonight so we don't think there's an SK" thing. He might have been the only one saying it, but he wasn't the only one thinking it.

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Bookwyrm627: My vote is legit and occurred when I finished catching up on the thread. Some of the reasoning behind my vote is not appropriate to reveal right now, but will be available at a later point in time.
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Lifthrasil: Don't you think that later point in time should be now? Deadline is closing in and if you have reason to assume that lynching Vitek is better for town that lynching Scene, then you should speak up now!
I said exactly what I meant to say. And just to be clear: I also mean (and meant) exactly what I said.

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supplementscene: I'd like to have a right of reply before getting hammered if possible
Talk fast.

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HypersomniacLive: Ye got that starboard, ye lard brained screechy gobshyte!
Okay, that was clever. XD
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mchack: [...] Clive : at the risk of gaining his wrath, I think I'd like to adobt Joes recommendation for the new nickname of the reluctant voter: Clive :D I love it. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: But JoeSapphire isn't the first one giving me this nick, he's not even the second one; credit goes to bler144 who first came up with it a long time ago. Wanna guess why it didn't stick?
and it wasn't even on a Mafia game. One of Slaugh's giveaways if I remember right? Good times...

er.. right. Back to this game.
Sorry only just got chance to get online at work. Ok well I didn't want to reveal this but I have a role that town don't want to lose. I don't want to reveal more than that as that'll give Scum more info than they need. Now I've revealed this I'm probably getting killed tonight now anyway so I don't suppose it matters if you lynch me and get information.

I haven't played this well considering I had a role but thought I didn't get lynched in the last game so why would I now? Sorry guys.

I have to get to work now and am not sure if I'll be back before 5 so I'm moving my vote to the second biggest wagon

Vote Vitek
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SirPrimalform: Mostly to avoid a no-lynch but also no. When I was going back to the posts following Poppy's "I'll live" I got a bit of a buddying feel from Scene towards Flub. When I wrote about supporting his lynch it was not a preference though, I mostly just want to avoid a nolynch. I probably won't be around for EoD so I need to decide where to leave my vote.

I have cooled off on him a bit but not actually changed my mind. Would support his lynch, but as the third place wagon it doesn't look like it's going anywhere.

Vitek seems oddly coy, but nothing concrete (to add to the Poppy stuff).

*sigh*

Vote Supplementscene
What's with the overly resigned tone?

Regarding supplementscene and buddying up to flubbucket, I took a quick look - are you referring to posts #60 and #63?

Also, since you seem to be still here, can you answer Vitek's question from post #305?



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JoeSapphire: [...] Vitek's creepiness, it's the lingering vote whilst at the same time saying "we're not going to get a lynch through" and "I'm not happy with the three top wagons." This from the guy who initiated the last-minute push for Crisitgale in #53 - or was it Sprimal? As I remember it there were two major wagons and everybody thought it was one or the other, and vitek quite casually said "anybody fancy lynching so-and-so instead?" and they were suddenly at 6 votes. Sure - it ended in disaster, but still I'd expect vitek not to be so hopeless. [...]
Vitek says he needs more time to form reads than the 2ds he had since he subbed in (while in game #53 he was playing from the start). Do you think he's not entirely sincere about that?


Is anyone willing/prepared to reconsider their position based on what supplementscene claims? Assuming he's going to?
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SirPrimalform: Mostly to avoid a no-lynch but also no. When I was going back to the posts following Poppy's "I'll live" I got a bit of a buddying feel from Scene towards Flub. When I wrote about supporting his lynch it was not a preference though, I mostly just want to avoid a nolynch. I probably won't be around for EoD so I need to decide where to leave my vote.

I have cooled off on him a bit but not actually changed my mind. Would support his lynch, but as the third place wagon it doesn't look like it's going anywhere.

Vitek seems oddly coy, but nothing concrete (to add to the Poppy stuff).

*sigh*

Vote Supplementscene
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HypersomniacLive: What's with the overly resigned tone?

Regarding supplementscene and buddying up to flubbucket, I took a quick look - are you referring to posts #60 and #63?

Also, since you seem to be still here, can you answer Vitek's question from post #305?

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JoeSapphire: [...] Vitek's creepiness, it's the lingering vote whilst at the same time saying "we're not going to get a lynch through" and "I'm not happy with the three top wagons." This from the guy who initiated the last-minute push for Crisitgale in #53 - or was it Sprimal? As I remember it there were two major wagons and everybody thought it was one or the other, and vitek quite casually said "anybody fancy lynching so-and-so instead?" and they were suddenly at 6 votes. Sure - it ended in disaster, but still I'd expect vitek not to be so hopeless. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Vitek says he needs more time to form reads than the 2ds he had since he subbed in (while in game #53 he was playing from the start). Do you think he's not entirely sincere about that?

Is anyone willing/prepared to reconsider their position based on what supplementscene claims? Assuming he's going to?
A vague hint at a role Town can’t afford to lose to move to a wagon of someone I have as town, I’m not switching
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trentonlf: A vague hint at a role Town can’t afford to lose to move to a wagon of someone I have as town, I’m not switching
Saw his sort-of claim post when I posted mine.



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supplementscene: Sorry only just got chance to get online at work. Ok well I didn't want to reveal this but I have a role that town don't want to lose. [...]
So, do you consider some of town's role expendable while others not?


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supplementscene: [...] I don't want to reveal more than that as that'll give Scum more info than they need. Now I've revealed this I'm probably getting killed tonight now anyway so I don't suppose it matters if you lynch me and get information. [...]
What's the difference between you revealing more about your role, and the info getting out upon your lynch? I really don't get the logic behind this.


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supplementscene: [...] I haven't played this well considering I had a role but thought I didn't get lynched in the last game so why would I now? [...]
Eh... no. That's probably the worst possible way of thinking. Seriously.
About 1 hour left

When you see any votecount from me, please take a second to check that your name is shown voting for the correct person.

Vote count:

supplementscene - 5: JoeSapphire, gogtrial, Lifthrasil, dedoporno, SirPrimalform
Vitek - 3: Dessimu, Bookwyrm, supplementscene
Lifthrasil - 1: mchack
HypersomniacLive - 1: Vitek
JoeSapphire - 1: HSL

Not voting - 2: flubbucket, trent

13 players. Takes 7 to lynch.
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supplementscene: Sorry only just got chance to get online at work. Ok well I didn't want to reveal this but I have a role that town don't want to lose. I don't want to reveal more than that as that'll give Scum more info than they need. Now I've revealed this I'm probably getting killed tonight now anyway so I don't suppose it matters if you lynch me and get information.
This doesn't make sense if you are town. And if you are scum it's about the easiest way of making a claim. "Hey, I totally am a PR, but I'm not going to tell you which one." ... which nicely avoids anyone being able to contradict you. You basically expect us to believe you, that you are important for town just because you say so. Without explaining anything.

I think you are scum and couldn't come up with a good claim under pressure, so you tried it with this half-claim.
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trentonlf: A vague hint at a role Town can’t afford to lose to move to a wagon of someone I have as town, I’m not switching
Do you have a second choice?



@supplementscene, I see your light on. Silence's is definitely not the path that may get you to live.
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flubbucket: No.

I commented (post #50) on a quip "I'm sure I'll live." in post #45.

I didn't address it again.
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Lifthrasil: Flubb! Just in time for the EOD. So what's your take on the game so far? Who is your preferred lynch and who not and why?
You are very kind to ask.

Regardless of what I think, supplementscene is the only viable lynch today because of this:



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supplementscene: Sorry only just got chance to get online at work. Ok well I didn't want to reveal this but I have a role that town don't want to lose. I don't want to reveal more than that as that'll give Scum more info than they need. Now I've revealed this I'm probably getting killed tonight now anyway so I don't suppose it matters if you lynch me and get information.

I haven't played this well considering I had a role but thought I didn't get lynched in the last game so why would I now? Sorry guys.

I have to get to work now and am not sure if I'll be back before 5 so I'm moving my vote to the second biggest wagon

Vote Vitek
Vote: supplementscene
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trentonlf: A vague hint at a role Town can’t afford to lose to move to a wagon of someone I have as town, I’m not switching
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HypersomniacLive: Do you have a second choice?

@supplementscene, I see your light on. Silence's is definitely not the path that may get you to live.
If push came to shove I’d be willing to vote SPF today, but it’s a little late to be taking about pushing another wagon.
OK role reveal

Hi, supplementscene. You are Messof Anegovych, a surgeon secretly performing without the states knowledge (Doctor Townie). You have the ability to protect one player per night. You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town player alive.
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supplementscene: OK role reveal

Hi, supplementscene. You are Messof Anegovych, a surgeon secretly performing without the states knowledge (Doctor Townie). You have the ability to protect one player per night. You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town player alive.
Can you protect yourself??