Boob

Don't tell me you are really SK and plan to kill remaining mafia tonight to win the game.

Hey, you're not playing! I think the gogfather ought to be stripped of his title for this infraction.

You start arguing in the afternoon. Soon a fight ensues that lasts for some time and ends when HypersomniacLive is fatally wounded. He dies a few minutes later.

You go through his tent. You find some personal items as well as an expired Arstotzkan military ID and some documents. From what you can make, it turns out he used to be a medic in the Arstotzkan Army. You find some medical supplies.

HypersomniacLive is dead. He was Mikhail Saratov (Town 1-Shot Doctor).

Final vote count:

HSL - 4: Bookwyrm, gogtrial, Joe, SPF

Not voting - 2: HSL, Vitek

As they get out of his tent, Bookwyrm, SirPrimalform and Vitek suddenly find gogtrial and Joe pointing guns at them.
"There has already been enough deaths here. You have half an hour to pick whatever supplies you need and get out of here. But you leave any weapons or documents behind. It's a 3-day trek to Obristan if you head north, or you can try and find your way back to Arstotzka. If anyone attempts coming back here, he will be shot on sight."

Bookwyrm627 is Elisa Katsenja (Vanilla Townie).
SirPrimalform is Danic Lorun (Vanilla Townie).
Vitek is Corman Drex (Vanilla Townie).

Both governments have been weakened by the events and the Order has gained some important intelligence. Gogtrial and Joe did a good job.

gogtrial34987 is Jorji Costava (Vanilla Townie, Tragic Lover with JoeSapphire).
JoeSapphire is Sergiu Volda (Mafia Godfather, Tragic Lover with gogtrial34987).

All of a sudden, a smurf wearing red appears and hands out icecream for everyone. And there is much rejoicing.

THE END

WINNERS:

Team Lover: gogtrial, JoeSapphire

NOT SO WINNERS:

Team Town: Bookwyrm, dedoporno, flubbucket, HypersomniacLive, Ixamxyakxim, Lifthrasil, mchack, SirPrimalform, Vitek
Team Mafia: supplementscene, trentonlf

I blame gogtrial.

You told us you are sure.
Wouldn't we be at 4 players with 3 townies next Day?
If gogtrial could be persuaded wouldn't town still be able to win?

Or did they really have they own wincon?

So they were they own faction and in fact were not vanilla townie and mafia godfather?¨
So why was it included in their role?
And mafia only had 2 members?

I admit it's a bit complicated for me.

Woo, good game guys.

We'll done to Team Lovers, and particularly their oh so town mastermind gogtrial :)

Called it.

So they were they own faction but knew who is mafia and one of them was basically mole in mafia team.
Doesn't that make mafia quite underpowered?

They were actually vanilla townie and mafia godfather, but made tragic lovers, with their abilities to win separately removed. They win together, or lose.

You did.

:(

Joe will be so disappointed. He was really wanting to NK SPF, and now you all cruelly took that choice away from him by not even having a vig.

Man, it was basically a foregone conclusion all day long.

Do you know how many hours I spent worrying about scenarios and how all we might still lose?!

>:D

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Vitek: Yep, we were every so slightly anti-town. But mostly just anti-mafia. We really only killed flub, and he seemed to be rather happy about it. :P

Off to read the admin and observer threads before doing more commenting.

So they were not.
For all purposes they were just neutrals (tragic lovers) who investigated both as town, one was infiltrated into mafia and both could read mafia chat. Or am I getting it wrong?

I am not immediately casting any doubts on it, I am just trying to understand how it worked.

Anyway, GG, folks.
Thanks for playing and thanks ZFR for hosting.

Special thanks to adaliabooks for helping me with the modding.

Special thanks to the subs.

Thanks to everyone for playing, it's been fun to host.

I think gogtrial is undoubtedly the man of the match here. He did an excellent job. I thought they lost for sure when Joe was put at L-1. trent was second best; if it wasn't for the twist, I think he'd have helped mafia win for sure.

Yes, I think mafia got the short end of the stick in this game. Which is really a shame because trent did an excellent job. If only he wan't so trusting.

Pretty much yes. But how else are Tragic Lovers to be set-up? Keeping their ability to win separately makes it way too easy for the town lover to dump his partner after the other mafia are killed. Removing their ability to win separately turns them into a neutral faction as you just saw.

My other thoughts on the set-up:
_I rerolled on SK because I thought keeping 4 factions would be too much. Maybe I should have kept him. Incidentally, the first roll was CCCBTTT, which included an SK, so was rerolled.
_Should godfather have been excluded from the Lover pool?
_I excluded Vig (if any) from the town lover pool, as well as town-roleblocker (if any) after reading adalia's opinion (too easy to block NKs in that case) and Masons (so as not to make it too bastardy). I probably would have excluded 1-shot versions of V and B too. None of this was an issue anyway.