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Bookwyrm627: What if, for example, a shield showed up to protect me at night? I might decide to keep it quiet so I don't tip off scum to the presence of some kind of protective role. Sure, they'll find out eventually, but why make it easier (and earlier) for them? But that's just me. Oh, and if I did reveal something like being shielded, then I also tell them A) There's a shielder around, and B) Either I can self-shield or else some other player did the shielding (possibly narrowing the field for finding the shielder).
Your example is not even a legitimate one. If someone is being protected they don't know it so there is no way they would be able to come back the next day and say "someone potected me last night". Again your logic is flawed and I'm starting to wonder why you keep presenting flawed reasoning to support not sharing information.
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trentonlf: Your example is not even a legitimate one. If someone is being protected they don't know it so there is no way they would be able to come back the next day and say "someone potected me last night". Again your logic is flawed and I'm starting to wonder why you keep presenting flawed reasoning to support not sharing information.
Multiple people actively claim to know they've been investigated in various fashions and you don't bat an eye. I suggest that someone might be aware of being protected, and you call BS. And somehow I'm the one not being legitimate.
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trentonlf: Your example is not even a legitimate one. If someone is being protected they don't know it so there is no way they would be able to come back the next day and say "someone potected me last night". Again your logic is flawed and I'm starting to wonder why you keep presenting flawed reasoning to support not sharing information.
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Bookwyrm627: Multiple people actively claim to know they've been investigated in various fashions and you don't bat an eye. I suggest that someone might be aware of being protected, and you call BS. And somehow I'm the one not being legitimate.
Because it is BS. There has been no game where someone being protected knew they were. If you don't want to share information that's your choice, but don't try and legitimize it by giving a false example.

Only way town is going to win is discussion, and you seem to be proposing we don't. Would you rather town stay in the dark? I guess to keep you happy we can just repeat Day 1 all over again.

What does everyone say, let's make bookwyrm happy. Stop all discussion of any night actions that might have happened and what they might mean, stick our thinbs up our asses, and just look at each other. Sounds like a great plan.
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trentonlf: Because it is BS. There has been no game where someone being protected knew they were. If you don't want to share information that's your choice, but don't try and legitimize it by giving a false example.

Only way town is going to win is discussion, and you seem to be proposing we don't. Would you rather town stay in the dark? I guess to keep you happy we can just repeat Day 1 all over again.

What does everyone say, let's make bookwyrm happy. Stop all discussion of any night actions that might have happened and what they might mean, stick our thinbs up our asses, and just look at each other. Sounds like a great plan.
I don't have any two's. Go Fish.
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trentonlf: Stop all discussion of any night actions that might have happened and what they might mean, stick our thinbs up our asses, and just look at each other. Sounds like a great plan.
Even though I agree with you about sharing and communicating with each I kind of hear where Wyrm is coming from. He is a bit overzealous about it, but he does make some sense. Also, you keep asking around but haven't said anything yourself. I gather your pack or brain or whatever isn't being picked on but is there a reason why you are so interested if others' were? We do have some data already, do we need ALL data at once?
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trentonlf: Stop all discussion of any night actions that might have happened and what they might mean, stick our thinbs up our asses, and just look at each other. Sounds like a great plan.
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dedoporno: Even though I agree with you about sharing and communicating with each I kind of hear where Wyrm is coming from. He is a bit overzealous about it, but he does make some sense. Also, you keep asking around but haven't said anything yourself. I gather your pack or brain or whatever isn't being picked on but is there a reason why you are so interested if others' were? We do have some data already, do we need ALL data at once?
Nothing was picked on my end. Nothing at all happened last night for me.

My initial response to bookwyrm was because he was accusing me of role fishing when that had nothing to do with my question. Then when he tried to justify not sharing information with a false example I felt a brusque response was necessary to make my point.

My whole reason for asking if anyone else had their bags searched last night was to try and determine if it was just isolated to the two of y'all. If it was it would lead me to believe scum had a role cop too, but if it was more it could have just been flavor thrown in by yogs. Of course now that Hijack is saying his brain was picked it looks as if either the bags were something else entirely or Hijack is lying to divert attention away from the bags.
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flubbucket: It is also three weeks since I started my new job and I STILL do not have internet access at work.
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HijacK: That sounds terrible. This being said, good luck at your new job!

And yes, someone has in fact during the night gone through my brain and got something from there, what exactly I was not told.
Thanks. It is great, but I'm currently going from flood to fire to flood to fire ad nauseam....

My "brain" was also rummaged through yet it wasn't an unwelcome visit and nothing was stolen....only learned about me.
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trentonlf: .......<snip>..........

There has been no game where someone being protected knew they were.

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In the last game I knew Five Star JMich was protecting me.

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trentonlf: .......<snip>..........
Nothing was picked on my end.
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Insert butt picking joke here...

Then remove joke inserted into butt...

Reinsert thumb............lather, rinse, repeat
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trentonlf: .......<snip>..........

There has been no game where someone being protected knew they were.

.......<snip>..........
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flubbucket: In the last game I knew Five Star JMich was protecting me.

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trentonlf: .......<snip>..........
Nothing was picked on my end.
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flubbucket: Insert butt picking joke here...

Then remove joke inserted into butt...

Reinsert thumb............lather, rinse, repeat
You knew that when the game started did you not, it's not the same as someone like a doctor protecting someone at night. If a doctor protects someone the person they protect never knows.
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Lifthrasil: Fist the facts
Only have a few minutes. Interview went very well, but ended up driving from there down to see the family for a few hours since interview was halfway here.

"Fist the facts" was as far as I've gotten. Not really my thing, but as long as it's consensual I guess I'm game. Let's fist those facts, people!

Should be back on for real once I get home this evening and will try to actually catch up and say something useful.
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trentonlf: Your example is not even a legitimate one. If someone is being protected they don't know it so there is no way they would be able to come back the next day and say "someone potected me last night". Again your logic is flawed and I'm starting to wonder why you keep presenting flawed reasoning to support not sharing information.
Quick question though. If we are indicated the fact someone investigated us in this game, on what basis exactly do you hold the argument that yogsloth wouldn't inform us if someone protected us? I don't think book#2 makes the best of sense, but calling someone's logic flawed when I don't think you quite hold all the information yourself sounds very combative.


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trentonlf: Of course now that Hijack is saying his brain was picked it looks as if either the bags were something else entirely or Hijack is lying to divert attention away from the bags.
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flubbucket: My "brain" was also rummaged through yet it wasn't an unwelcome visit and nothing was stolen....only learned about me.
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trentonlf: snip
Is that so? Do you always go around throwing accusations like this? I can't seem to remember.
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HijacK: Quick question though. If we are indicated the fact someone investigated us in this game, on what basis exactly do you hold the argument that yogsloth wouldn't inform us if someone protected us? I don't think book#2 makes the best of sense, but calling someone's logic flawed when I don't think you quite hold all the information yourself sounds very combative.


Is that so? Do you always go around throwing accusations like this? I can't seem to remember.
I have been protected in games past and have never been informed of it, never found out until the game was over. No one in games past has come forward and said they were protected either, except for flub last game and that was a different circumstance.

I was not accusing you of lying, I just said that was a possibility. I have no basis to accuse you of lying.
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trentonlf: .... I have no basis to accuse you of lying.
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Post edited August 14, 2015 by flubbucket
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QuadrAlien: Hmm. This business about mind reading. Could HijacK have potentially been RWarehall's target last night rather than Dedoporno or myself? I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not certain that rummaging around in people's packs is terribly Cleric-esque behaviour. I suppose it depends on the god in question, but still.
Caught up I think, though haven't had a chance to go back to D1 and look at why RW might have been the NK. Someone suggested he wouldn't reveal much to town, but he actually said quite a lot in a short time.

QA's point is very interesting and strikes me as insightful, though if Flub is also telling true could be Flub was RW's target. Also curious that dedo had items stolen but it appears QA didn't lose anything (indeed, gained some material that could be useful for making gunpowder after the invention of chemistry)?

On the theft point, I had considered it possible that if the setup were 9v3v1 that the 1 was a Gollum-inspired role which would fit with pilfering. That said, other than Yog/Cristi's role, not much else has seemed LOTR-ish.

Not sure what to make of the number of claimed visits. Possible the visitation claims are correct and some of the investigators are incompetent and don't know it?

Anyway, until I get home that's about the best I can do. Should be home in ~4 hours.
And...no one else posted. I felt kinda bad for missing the first 18 hours and then only having limited time today, but seemingly didn't miss much. Posts in the first 24 hours of D2:

Yog 2
1. Hijack  7
2. Lifthrasil  4
3. JMich  7
4. CSPVG  1
7. flubbucket  5
8. Bookwyrm627  8
9. Leonard03  2
10. QuadrAlien  2
11. dedoporno  5
12. bler144  3
13. trentonlf 9

Claimed or confirmed actions received N1:
Leon: Slept/Role Blocked
Dedo: Bag Searched/Pilfered
QA: Bag Searched
Hijack: Brain scan
Flub: Brain scan
RW: rock on head