dedoporno: I will not post now. Tomorrow, after I wake up. Sorry everyone, but I don't want to re-do it now.
Well, technically you did post ;) But I know what you mean, and no sweat.
Ok, so if I ruled the game world I would lynch CSP. The thing that gave me pause was Wyrm's comment that he doesn't want to lynch someone just for proposing something crazy to get Day 1 moving. I do get that, and agree. We all, to some degree or other, think D1 is a problem, thus there's a catch-22 in punishing anyone who tries something unorthodox.
That said, there are two problems with proposing everyone toss out their "most scummy" list off the bat. For one, it makes it apparent who can most easily be wagoned, and two, it gives scum a sense of who might be most dangerous to them. If you read the scum chat from last game, Kryp was hit because of the fact that he had both dedo and RW on his short list, and also was viewed as a crafty player who would find a way to get them if left to linger. Ironically, perhaps, he came off RW in D2 (
Krypsyn 2: the undeadening), and dedo was flamed N1 anyway.
The saving grace to the latter part of that proposal in a sense is that it came early enough that it would have been hard for anyone to have a meaningful read on anyone else. So that alone, while it raised a flag, isn't really what got me to the point of leaning towards a vote.
When I compare carryover players from last game to this here are players who read strongly same to me:
Trent, Leonard, JMich, Wyrm, Sage - all of whom, other than JMich were town. But I get the sense JMich will read fairly constant regardless.
Players who read different:
Dedo, Flub, CSP. Flub has been vacuous at times, and his post structure is generally similar, but last game outside of D3/D4 when he was actively bluffing, he had an edge in my perception. This time he's largely just goofing and letting stuff bounce off him.
CSP is harder for me to read, clearly. But that said, the one time last game where I didn't feel he was lurking was D3 when he first made his claim. He was confident, engaged. The rest of the game, even later on in D3 after Yog went at him, he seemed a bit evasive. He confirmed my night visit to RW and then didn't even vote for RW. So what's the theory? The claim in D3 was the time when he knew something he could use.
This game he's been confident, engaged, willing to repeatedly be upfront out of the gate. Which kinda makes me think he knows something. And on D1 town knows nothing, right? Last game I had a N0 action but I still knew absolutely nothing. I think I had another point earlier, but I was thinking about it on the drive down this a.m. and didn't have a chance to make notes.
Now, the alternative hypothesis is that he was uncomfortable with his role last game, or confused by the setup, just having a bad game, or whatever. It's the only sample I have with him, so admittedly it's not a large N. Maybe he's just having a better game, or etc. It's thin enough I wouldn't ask anyone else to pile on for it, but frankly I think everything on the table right now is pretty thin. That's just what my gut is telling me.
It's also part of why I was curious for Flub to lay out his case on CSP, which right now seems even thinner with "he said Jester," which seems a pretty non-reason to vote someone on D1 to me. Even as someone inclined to vote for him, that reads to me as just "thinking out loud" not "scum gambit."
But, since I should put my money where my mouth is:
Vote CSP I have a longer opinion on Adalia as well, but if he's content to be the D1 lynch as he states, by all means I can save it for the post-game. ;) That said, I did laugh at his "I want to call the scum team before I die!" If there was any lingering doubt that he and Wyrm are alike, that pretty much removed it.
