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I noted that you provided better reasons later (after you were called on it). My vote was not placed just because of the flippant vote. Prior to this vote you were at the top of my scum list (starting with post #578) but you didn’t seem scummy enough to vote unless it was needed to secure a lynch. As mentioned, your vote seemed like scum seizing an opportunity to jump on a wagon. It was a tipping point, which in turn made my previous suspicions stronger.

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I agree. I stated that I see flubb scummy enough to switch my vote. However, as also stated, you seemed scummier, hence the vote.

If flubb turns out to be scum, then I can see why you might think that. I placed my vote with the player I found scummiest. I find it bad play to not draw attention to that person.

I still think yogs looks scummiest, but flubb looks scummy enough to vote. I don’t see anything in his most recent posts to change that.

Unvote yogsloth

Vote flubbucket

Are you suggesting that I'm scummy or those who haven't been posting are?

Can we have the role you bid for and the number please?
At least then if you're town we might gain a little more info to work with.

@Robbeasy – best wishes with whatever you are facing

@Vitek – welcome to the game

Other than yog’s assessment of himself, it’s fairly accurate. Sage’s assessment of Robb (#688) seemed accurate as well.

I’ve been meaning to respond. The only thing I noticed that I don’t remember being mentioned already: Of the existing players, Hyper is the only player without a vote on either list. He does not seem to vote very often. He had a vote on Sage at the end of Day 1. Not sure if there is anything to draw from that.

Honestly, it has kind of been that sort of game...

Welcome Vitek, didn't expect a replacement so quickly.

To help you along a little heres a list of who I think is scum or town:

Scum:
yogsloth - Talks a lot, doesn't actually seem to say very much. Very keen to jump on new wagons.
Sage - General lurkiness at the beginning of the game. Less so now, but took an almost lynch to change her behaviour.
flub - very erratic and odd behaviour.

Neutral:
Leonard - slightly scummy, largely due to gut feelings but overall neutral for now.
JMich - quite a fence sitter, slightly lurky. I think he's made some good observations though.
Lift - Mostly town and good contributions, but something is telling me to be careful of him (need to do a reread of his posts to clarify my thoughts)
HijacK - Quiter and calmer than usual, but making good points and posts.
Bookwyrm - Not really sure. Need to reread him too.
Robb / Vitek - Made some slip ups and almost got lynched day 1. Hard to tell, particularly with a replacement.

Town:
Hyper - Very much his usual self, quiet but with good observations and keen questions.
cristi - Very similar to Hyper.

I think that's everyone...

Ah, my nemesis! Too bad you arrive too late for an RVS vote :(

Good to see you in a game again Vitek.

That breaks P1na's record of dying to NK before getting to post.

Lame. All the good jokes have already been taken.

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To business.

Everyone: TODAY IS THE LAST FULL DAY. DAY 2 ENDS SOMETIME TOMORROW. Man, that sounds odd.

Vitek:
-You need to make time to read the wiki page about the roles in the game. For your convenience, here's a link. That link is totally not a rick-roll. Big thing is that the game started with 3-8 roles in it. AFP successfully bid for JOAT (bidding 7), Sage claims to have unsuccessfully bid for vig (bidding 18), and I claim to have bid (with no further information provided yet). Flub is claiming Vanilla (no further information provided yet). JOAT is dead before doing anything, all other roles are unaccounted for (with Vig presumably floating around somewhere, depending on whether you believe Sage's claim).

-Note that we have a set number of days to reach a lynch. Each lynch reduces the number of days by one. NK, Vig, Venge do NOT reduce the number of days. The date of default No Lynch is generally being posted at the bottom of the OP.

-You should use Adalia's script to see what Robb has posted. He had a pretty hefty blunder on Day 1 that nearly got him lynched (saying Yog downplayed the Doctor role, then voting him for it), but Robb was fairly persuasive and escaped. I think he got to L-1, but I don't remember and I'm not going to hunt for that one right now. He is still under suspicion from several quarters.

-AFP was lynched Day 1.

-Sage hit L-1 during Day 2, for lurking and other reasons (depending on the player). She's been posting more and escaped lynch. She did offer to hammer herself, but her wagon fell apart before it came to that.

-It looks like Flub really started garnering attention in Day 2 with Hijack's post 568. Flub and I had a whatever-you-want-to-call-it-since-battle-is-wrong during Day 1, starting with my post 56. I don't recall him receiving much more than minor attention between these two events.

-By my count, Flub is now at L-1 (pushed there by me and Cristigale).

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My top three lynch targets:
1) Flub
2) Robb/Vitek
3) Sage

Players that need to be reviewed:
-Yogs -> Enough people are suspicious of him that I should take another look.
-Adalia -> Probably just hold over from last game.

Lower Priority:
-Everyone else.
-Leonard has moved to this category after I read up on him a few RL days ago.

@Lift: I think the wagons might be informative. One thing I noticed recently was Robb and Flubb both on Sage's wagon alone. I haven't made the time to look more closely, but it strikes me as interesting. I might be reading too much into it, considering my scum list, but there it is.

Welcome Vitek! Nice you could drop in.

In my opinion: flubbucket is probably scum. Other candidates would be you (or more precisely Robb) or Sage. One tier lower, but still leaning scum, would be yog and Leonard. Yog seems to seem scummy to many, but to me he mostly seems yog-like. But who knows? Some of the suspicions thrown at him were quite valid. Especially trent was hounding him on Day 1. ...

Townish, for mostly good contributions, would be HSL, cristi and of course me. And, surprisingly enough, I see HijacK as leaning town too, since he had many helpful posts. On day one we had a major disagreement, but his play and my view of him has changed since then. ... Or maybe I am just too easily deceived. Who knows.

So just take your time and make your own picture.

And with Bookwyrm and cristi hopping on the flubb train, he is at L-1 by now, if I counted correctly. I really hope I am not wrong about him this time!


Inofficial vote count:

Sage103082: 3 votes - Robbeasy, flubbucket, Leonard-03,

flubbucket: 6 votes - Lifthrasil, HijacK, yogsloth, adaliabooks, Bookwyrm627, cristigale

Not voting: JMich, HypersomniacLive, Sage103082,

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to reach a majority vote.

I hope I got it right. If not, please correct me.

Take your time...as long as you decide before 24 hours have passed. We need to have a lynch by then.

Hard time to join the game: "Welcome, now hurry up and pick someone you think is scummy!"

Not posting and disappearing. How can you get a read on someone who is a ghost. The players you can get reads and feels for are the ones that post so the ones that do not have a better chance of being put at neutral or town because they have not stirred the post or gave much to be looked it.

I'm waiting to see what Vitek has got to say. If nothing changes I will hammer flub.

Last paragraph. Pretty much verbatim.


Lol, haven’t accomplished very much, have I? The actual “I’d like to ask…” statement was intended to be humorous. Obviously, we’re all asking questions and probing, and so far all I’ve done is come up with a candidate nobody else likes and been a part of a mis-lynch.

What I truly hope I’ve accomplished is caused enough data to be dumped out there that we’ll be able to use it in the end-game, once the field has been narrowed and whatever limited power role information there is has been shared. Then we’ll be able to go back and look at the data and hopefully put together some connections… because I don’t know about you, but I feel our success has been limited at best thus far.

I haven’t done one. I admit I’m not terribly confident in this regard; at least not until there are two days’ worth of wagons to analyze side-by-side. Nor am I confident in the analysis of others yet. I still believe the wagon analysis will be key, especially in this game with limited power roles, but I think it will have to be Day 3 when it really starts. If I survive until then I’ll post my attempt at wagon analyses at that time.

So far I am 3 pages (50ppp) in.

Bookwyrm is scum (I like his recent post, though), yog is scum, Leonard is scum.
flub is more likely to be scum than town but is quite close to neutral (on scale not as role)

Lift is town, I regret I couldn't get to replace trent as he was supertown, JMich is likely town.
Adalia would be town but I peaked into the future and found some things that make him more likely to not be town.

I barely noticed crisigale post and if his/her post wouldn't be last I read, I wouldn't have notice his/her presence at all.
HijacK is annoying as shit but not really scum.
Sage is barely there but alright.
Rob is invisible but not of any interest to me at all.
HyperSomniac... I think he posted something.

All based on first 150 posts (except adalia and 1 recent wyrm's post). I will continue later today.

Well, to be honest, most of it was the debate with yogsloth. I found JMich much more convincing in the whole affair than I did yogsloth. I thought he made good points about the way yogsloth acted and how he phrased things.

But, having said that when looking through JMich's posts (to find other non yogs related examples) there has been perilously little that hasn't been a reply to yogsloth... which is, interesting...
And I thought yogsloth was the one with the obsession.. :/

Let me ask you a hypothetical question.

What if you knew that I was Town? If you did a re-read of JMich's responses to me over that "debate" knowing that I were Town, how would they read?