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Where is Kuze ?
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It is not doing well at the box office, so we can forget about a franchise.
More like, Lost in the Shell.
I liked this movie.
I liked the original animated movie.
Still I think it doesn't need a sequel (I think even good movies don't always need a "franchise").

I'm glad I saw it, I don't really see the point of make another movie... it's like Highlander, the first movie is amazing, but it was a closed story.
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dudalb: It is not doing well at the box office, so we can forget about a franchise.
I hope so. Even more I hope that guy never get's to direct anything again. Between Snow White and the Huntsman and this, I think we've pretty conclusively established that whatever his true calling is, it has nothing to do with movies.
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Breja: Disclaimer- I have not seen the original anime, any of the other anime, read the manga, and I don't care about them. I went in knowing nothing except for what I saw in the trailers.
Well do. Whoever wrote the new GitS didn't get it. The amnesia, revenge plot, evil villain? Yup, all of that added in the remake. They didn't even understand significance of a whole bunch of scenes they copied from the anime and just... Put them in there for no reason.
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Breja: Disclaimer- I have not seen the original anime, any of the other anime, read the manga, and I don't care about them. I went in knowing nothing except for what I saw in the trailers.
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Fenixp: Well do. Whoever wrote the new GitS didn't get it. The amnesia, revenge plot, evil villain? Yup, all of that added in the remake. They didn't even understand significance of a whole bunch of scenes they copied from the anime and just... Put them in there for no reason.
Have you seen Ghost in the Shell: Arise? If so, what did you think of it?

EDIT: Wait, are you talking about the live-action thing, or about GitS: The New Movie (which ties in with Arise)? I would assume Breja was talking about the live-action.
Post edited April 04, 2017 by Maighstir
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Breja: Disclaimer- I have not seen the original anime, any of the other anime, read the manga, and I don't care about them. I went in knowing nothing except for what I saw in the trailers.
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Fenixp: Well do.
I can't stand anime. There is no way in hell or the Styggian Abyss that I could ever enjoy it. I'm not passing a judgement on the original movie based on this one, in fact I can easily believe it's a thousand times better, I just feel sick after looking at anime for 0.00001 seconds.
Post edited April 04, 2017 by Breja
While everyone is entitled to their opinions, placing a judgement of this movie being "bad" in the traditional sense or even praising it, is awkward to me. Because, the movie is not an original idea, and in this case, it's a butchered and mutilated version (with culture alteration included) of a brilliant original piece of work. Just like if someone drew a completely original piece of art, I can call it bad, because it is what it is. However, if someone made a copy-painting of a painting, it's not so much as bad but a bad copy-cat. But the copy painting itself has no value to be judged as it's a copy of another work. Without the foundation, one won't understand or is even looking at the value, which is a must before a judgement with merit can be placed.

In other words, I don't know how could anyone even watch seriously (and judge) a show that is greatly converted from a culture that is completely outside of the west. Absolutely zero of these Japanese live-action adaptations have gone over well in terms of value. Some people may like it, some may hate it, but they are largely meant to be seen as joke movies.

P.S: I rarely say it like this (as I tend to feel that taste should be in the eye of the beholder), but I think that anyone who can't see the original Ghost In The Shell anime series/movies as good, have kind of lost their sense of what is "good". And I'm someone who cares more for the niche stuff, and don't even bother with what is actually good these days.
Post edited April 04, 2017 by Nicole28
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Breja: I can't stand anime
I can't stand anime either, Ghost in the Shell is very much its own thing (the movie anyway). Give it a shot if you have even a fleeting interest in cyberpunk, you can get it pretty much anywhere these days and it's cheap as chips.

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Maighstir: Have you seen Ghost in the Shell: Arise? If so, what did you think of it?

EDIT: Wait, are you talking about the live-action thing, or about GitS: The New Movie (which ties in with Arise)? I would assume Breja was talking about the live-action.
Nope, and we're talking about the live action one.
Post edited April 04, 2017 by Fenixp
I always thought I could never stand anime.

Then for some reason I rented Ghost in the Shell from the video store and I was like "ummmm....WHAAAAAAAAAAT?!"

not a big fan of anime in general at all, but the well-knowns are well-known for good reasons and very much worth watching, even if you don't like anime

just force yourself to sit through the first 10 minutes and then you'll get over it, I think

Ghost in the Shell
Princess Mononoke
Ninja Scroll
Vampire Hunter D
Akira
Well, I'm slated to see this thing on Friday... God have mercy on my soul.
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Breja: This movie is a piece of crap. It's amazingly bad. It's been a while since I saw something this terribly incompetent
How could it be worse than Captain America Civil War? Is that actually possible?
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Breja: if this isn't the worst movie of the year, then we're in for some reall shit later on.
I just watched Kong: Skull Island today, so it already has serious some serious competition.
What's that ? Cool sci-fi effects and Scarlett Johansson in a skin-suit ? sounds like a great evening to me.
I'm not an anime fanatic though. Some anime are good, but most are terrible.
Post edited April 05, 2017 by Ricky_Bobby
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Maighstir: Have you seen Ghost in the Shell: Arise? If so, what did you think of it?

EDIT: Wait, are you talking about the live-action thing, or about GitS: The New Movie (which ties in with Arise)? I would assume Breja was talking about the live-action.
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Fenixp: Nope, and we're talking about the live action one.
All right, I just recognised the things you described from GitS: Arise. I have watched neither Ghost in the Shell: The New Movie nor the live-action movie, so I can't really reference them, but false memories is a heavy element in the Arise series, together with the forming of the Major's team and revenge on the villain who've manipulated and used the Major.
Post edited April 05, 2017 by Maighstir
Meh, it was watchable. I agree with pretty much all the criticisms brought up here. Two of my main complaints would be the uninspired visuals (Baby's first cyberpunk setting) and the underwhelming action sequences. Somebody gets hit or thrown across the screen? Cue random slow-mo-shots with accompanying bass drop! The PG-13 rating further hurt the action, since the gunfights have zero punch to them.

But at least they played it straight. No wink-at-the-camera shit, no haha-funny-cringe-comedy. Just a watered-down, yet moderately faithful Hollywood adaptation thought up by a bunch of Starbucks-sipping suits in order to cash in on a brand name. And as far as those go, it could have been a loooot worse.