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It’s tail time, baby!

Gex Trilogy is now available on GOG! And if you’re an owner of the original Gex on our platform, you can enjoy a -15% discount in the Trilogy until June 23rd, 1 PM UTC!

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Foxhack: I have no fucking idea what you were trying to tell me, but you confused me enough that I'm not even mad about this anymore.
Another long rant against regional pricing.
Great to see this come here, will wishlist it for now. Definitely picking it up in the future, but the price is currently too high for what it is. Hope to see more LRG games in the future, though!
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Foxhack: I have no fucking idea what you were trying to tell me, but you confused me enough that I'm not even mad about this anymore.
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UnashamedWeeb: Another long rant against regional pricing.
No, i do not have a region, as a world citizen and they should stop trying to put me into a region as a citizen of Earth.

It is a hard nut to crack, even harder to eat, if they always try to alienate their consumers into certain categories, loading them with rules, which... in the end are usually here in order to make sure nothing changes, from the things we already know.

Yes, GOG surely is a fly in the ointment, which... to a certain extend, has been accepted. However, in many aspects and terms... even GOG "have" to be stick to certain rules and beliefs (of others). For example the regional pricing is not a GOG idea but at some point GOG simply had to accept this wish. Nowadays it is not up to GOG anymore, instead almost entirely in the hands of the industry in general, in which Steam and others are in the lead.
Post edited 4 days ago by Xeshra
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Xeshra: I buy cheaper Steam keys at another place than on Steam all the time, so your statement seems to be full of holes.
Nope, it's literally in the Steam developer agreement. This is what Valve says directly so please don't argue with verifiable facts. It comes down to 1) When selling Steam keys you can't have a worse price on Steam than other stores, 2) Different discounts are OK as long as you have the same discount on Steam "within a reasonable amount of time", 3) Disregarding the rules can result in losing your ability to get Steam keys for reselling.

Note that selling games on GOG *is not selling Steam keys*. You're totally free to sell a game for $10 on GOG and $20 on Steam and Valve doesn't care even a little. Regardless, developers do usually keep the same base price on Steam and GOG, maybe just because it's the simplest thing to do.

The point here is that the "developers must have the same price on Steam as other stores" idea is false. That applies to *Steam keys only*. Even that has some wiggle room; the thing about discounts is somewhat open to interpretation as "reasonable time" isn't specifically defined.
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For anyone wondering, the Euro (€) price for this package is €29.99. And more importantly this is VAT and other payment processing inclusive price, so no additional expenses added at the check-out (at least when purchasing via Finland).

Uncertain how GOG.com handles the USA-dollar ($) checkout. But in my experiences whenever buying in in USA$ in most other webstores the VAT and other expenses are added only at the checkout and are not included in the price of the product.

This is probably also the reason why this product also is more "expensive" in via Mexico compared to USA-price.
But at this point it's all speculation on my part since I don't have the tools to validate my assumption.
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Post edited 4 days ago by PaveMentman
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PaveMentman: Uncertain how GOG.com handles the USA-dollar ($) checkout. But in my experiences whenever buying in in USA$ in most other webstores the VAT and other expenses are added only at the checkout and are not included in the price of the product.
Correct. It's the price plus VAT.

The VAT differs from province to province/state to state in the US and Canada both. It is only added at checkout, and the amount depends on what part of the country you are currently in. To add to the confusion, it may be multiple types of taxes stacked on top of each other, not just one. You never know what your total is until the very last minute, which ends up being a frustrating experience.

The end price can be lower or higher than the price in Euro, but on average you pay about the same.
Euro countries got a VAT of around 20% but it can even go up to 27%, while where i live it is currently 8,1% (which is one of the lowest world wide). Not that i see any gains, it rather looks like my VAT is 27%. VAT may apply and it may have bad effects but this is not the reason for very high fluctuations on regional pricing, nope. With this logic my price should be a good bit lower than any EU countries.

Anyway, true: US prices are not final, so people from Mexico should not take it as "the final price". In EU countries and where i live, VAT is usually included.
Post edited 3 days ago by Xeshra
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Nervensaegen: The VAT differs from province to province/state to state in the US and Canada both.
Technically the US has no VAT, but most states have a sales tax of some sort.
I can't justify paying the full price, but once it gets around to $5-10 (which I know will take a while to get such a deep discount), I might buy this for Gex 1's new abilities to rewind and save anywhere. I played some Gex in 8th Grade but could only get to around the Japanese world or so.

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UnashamedWeeb: Another long rant against regional pricing.
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Xeshra: No, i do not have a region, as a world citizen and they should stop trying to put me into a region as a citizen of Earth.
Folks, we’re all world citizens, living together, with one social contract, one economic future, we’re all tied together. There’s no more individual anymore, it’s just the hive. So we have to stick together. We have to stick together, and learn how to share. We have to learn how to share.
I could tell some evil joke about sharing and caring but it is way to evil bringing it up here. I just hope we share something truly lovely... such as honey, games or a kiss and even more like this.
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Nervensaegen: The VAT differs from province to province/state to state in the US and Canada both.
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eric5h5: Technically the US has no VAT, but most states have a sales tax of some sort.
It is a VAT, just not a generalized VAT, highly dynamic and localized. In usual between 5 and 10%, so it is not like they are going to be poor after but it simply is usually adding up which can not be seen at the raw price. A few states got 0% VAT but this is rare.
Post edited 3 days ago by Xeshra
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Xeshra: It is a VAT
No, VAT = Value Added Tax, which occurs when value is added at each stage of a supply chain. The U.S. has sales tax, which is different since it applies only to the final sale in the supply chain. Resellers along the way don't pay sales tax.
It doesn't affect me at all, but I'm not sure how I feel about a temporary discount for those who own the original Gex. Owners who don't find out till later will quite frankly be burned that way.

Otherwise, seems neat. If only I wouldn't be supporting LRG... for that alone, I'll pass.
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Xeshra: It is a VAT
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eric5h5: No, VAT = Value Added Tax, which occurs when value is added at each stage of a supply chain. The U.S. has sales tax, which is different since it applies only to the final sale in the supply chain. Resellers along the way don't pay sales tax.
It does not matter how many times goods at any point of a supply chain may become "taxed" as long as there is no reselling appearing in between. Powerful companies are in control of a big supply chain "on their own", so they do not need to pay a new sales tax, a VAT, at every single reselling point of the goods they are in need for... because it is "in house".

So, it is as much a "sales tax" as it is a VAT... A VAT is simply a certain form of a sales tax. There could be differences of course but in the end it all is a certain type of "sales tax". As well it does not matter "how they are naming it", goods are not out of the blue "with more value"... it is simply another name for a certain tax linked to sales and reselling.

There are so many taxes involved in our daily economy... if people start to think about with serious insight... they might become shocked. It is as a result very surprising why so many people get so little money out of the massive amount of taxes coming from countless sources. Perhaps because of a lot of corruption... or very low efficiency on "how to use it".

Besides: I still get cheaper Steam keys at another place than on Steam... like it or not. If Steam truly ONLY is setting this rule, then they are lying to themself as they do not take into account the dynamics linked to it, created by themself, which is with higher dementia than some of the over aged politicians may have.

I mean, they should stop writing a entire rule-poem inside some EULA when almost half of the stuff is either dishonest or at least as offensive that 90% of the gamers fail to believe it... for example "you own nothing... you rent your game... i swear, it is hard to believe for the majority, they deny the truth out of their innocent belief that the world is way more innocent than it truly is". As an example of another evil thing: Taxes, any form of... are usually cumulative. Example: Lets say, the raw oil is 10 cent, and at every reselling step there is a tax added.. and at the final stage several taxes at once... finally we may have a 10 times higher price in which 90% comes from all sort of taxes, nothing else. But if people want a discount it rarely ever is cumulative, simply a matter of "who got the longer stick". Guess nobody ever experienced, unless it is a scam... that they said "you get a A-discount, on top of the B-discount and the C-discount will be added as well... it usually only happens if goods are near zero value and in the end simply a scam. But if it comes to taxes... it is not "the exception", it is totally normal and widely accepted.

Realistically, with their current policy they are using, we can expect lower key prices elsewhere, while usually able to get the best non key deals directly at their place. Because in usual... there are no lower non-key prices at another place, as a result of their policy and/or market dominance. Any other stuff is rather a lot of powerless words but not realism.

Not going to argue to much... i lack the time doing so, not the energy or anything else.
Post edited 3 days ago by Xeshra
Isn't Limited Run Games a shady company ?
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Xeshra: Not going to argue to much...
Kinda late for that, you wrote too many words already, most of them questionably related to reality as far as I can tell. However that doesn't change any facts: U.S. does not have VAT, Steam does have a rule about "It is important that you don’t give Steam customers a worse deal than Steam Key purchasers", which you can see for yourself if you clicked on the link that I provided. Unlike some people I don't just make stuff up in my head, it's all verifiable info. No amount of babbling will change any of this.