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Same for me, it was very arrogant on their part. And I also think they don't want too much advertising because they sell games they don't have the rights to sell, there are too many games they keep selling that have been withdrawn from all the other digital stores in all the world. The story of differently structured contracts is bullshit to me.
Pretty cute of you guys to moan about arrogance while GOG does PR stunts like fckdrm.com
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Mr.Caine: Pretty cute of you guys to moan about arrogance while GOG does PR stunts like fckdrm.com
And the GOG community moderator forbid us to use the word f*ck.
(Um, fsck is OK I think.)
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Mr.Caine: Pretty cute of you guys to moan about arrogance while GOG does PR stunts like fckdrm.com
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kbnrylaec: And the GOG community moderator forbid us to use the word f*ck.
(Um, fsck is OK I think.)
To clarify, just the excessive use of swear words is forbidden, the occasional swear is fine :)
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kbnrylaec: And the GOG community moderator forbid us to use the word f*ck.
(Um, fsck is OK I think.)
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chandra: To clarify, just the excessive use of swear words is forbidden, the occasional swear is fine :)
Would this be "excessive"? :P
Post edited September 28, 2018 by mm324
I can understand them wanting to be away from the gog philosophy of fckdrm , its not really what you want to say to already cautious publishers like sega to release their games drm free, i think they might have a different approach to gog to get games drm free, hence they dont want to be associated here.
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Watermelon Games has gone out of business it seems.

Get Pier Solar while you can: https://www.gog.com/game/pier_solar_and_the_great_architects
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coughlanio: Watermelon Games has gone out of business it seems.

Get Pier Solar while you can: https://www.gog.com/game/pier_solar_and_the_great_architects
Good tip, thank you! I'll keep an eye on it.
Whenever GOG's catalogue loses a game, I'd rather have them keep the game card as a legacy, with the warning that the item is not being sold in GOG anymore.

Also, there is something disturbing: when we purchase a game in GOG with our hard-earned cash (or with our lottery or mafia racket-earned cash, never mind) we are buying a game that is guaranteed to work in modern day PCs.

However, do they keep the effort when the game is not being sold here anymore? Someone knowledgeable tell me. My guess is no and I hate having to guess.

On the other hand, if they are not ensuring compatibility with modern operative systems anymore, should not they return the money, as they would be breaking the agreement with the customer?
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Carradice: Also, there is something disturbing: when we purchase a game in GOG with our hard-earned cash (or with our lottery or mafia racket-earned cash, never mind) we are buying a game that is guaranteed to work in modern day PCs.
Where exactly does it say that? What you're buying is a game that's "guaranteed" (or: money back) to run on the systems listed under supported systems. There's no "Will run on any future OS" anywhere. Quite the contrary... There's even this warning on every game's page:
Please be advised that Windows 10 operating system will receive frequent hardware driver and software updates following its release; this may affect game compatibility
But I get your point (except the "Give us our money back" part) and it's a good question. Wasn't that relevant until some time ago, but there are more and more games leaving the catalogue. Would be interesting to know if GOG will try to keep them running on future systems.
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real.geizterfahr: I get your point (except the "Give us our money back" part) and it's a good question. Wasn't that relevant until some time ago, but there are more and more games leaving the catalogue. Would be interesting to know if GOG will try to keep them running on future systems.
So, if there is an update to Windows 7 that breaks compatibility, and you purchased a game that was going to work in Windows 7, and they do not care to fix the compatibility because they are not going to earn additional cash from that title anymore, they are not fulfilling the agreement.

Sure they may not earn money from that title, but they might lose money out of such a practice.
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Carradice: So, if there is an update to Windows 7 [...]
Well... There won't be ;)

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Carradice: [...] that breaks compatibility, and you purchased a game that was going to work in Windows 7, and they do not care to fix the compatibility because they are not going to earn additional cash from that title anymore, they are not fulfilling the agreement.
Windows 7 doesn't get updates anymore. And Windows 7 was never built as a "We change essential stuff and don't care about compatibility"-system (which Windows 10 is!). In case of Windows 10, which is still getting updates, there's the warning I quoted, about future OS updates possibly breaking compatibility. So... No, they're not breaking any agreement. It's just you reading what you WANT to read. It's not what GOG actually wrote anywhere. No one in their sane mind would sell you a programm and guarantee compatibility with yet unknown hardware and OSs.

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Carradice: Sure they may not earn money from that title, but they might lose money out of such a practice.
Sorry, but I don't believe in the "They'll lose money" myth anymore... Mankind is like a zombie. We're an always consuming herd. When we buy Fallout 3 GotY for 5 bucks, we don't give a rat's ass about compatibiliy with Windows 42. We just buy.

GOG can't even make sure they'll get patches for current games from the developers. How are they supposed to guarantee home made patches for systems they don't even know yet?
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real.geizterfahr: No one in their sane mind would sell you a programm and guarantee compatibility with yet unknown hardware and OSs.
Straw man. Guaranteed to work in modern day PCs. Modern day, as of now. Wss it so hard to understand?

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real.geizterfahr: Windows 7 doesn't get updates anymore
Bold claim. It neglects the different kinds of updates an operative system may receive, or not. Hint: W7 = WXP? Nope.


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real.geizterfahr: Sorry, but I don't believe in the "They'll lose money" myth anymore
Apparently people should care?



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real.geizterfahr: It's just you reading what you WANT to read
Heh. That got personal fast... Lack of anything interesting to say does that... ¬¬ Cheerio
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real.geizterfahr: No one in their sane mind would sell you a programm and guarantee compatibility with yet unknown hardware and OSs.
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Carradice: Straw man. Guaranteed to work in modern day PCs. Modern day, as of now. Wss it so hard to understand?
Cherry picking phrases out of context. You clearly wrote:
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Carradice: [...] when we purchase a game in GOG [...] we are buying a game that is guaranteed to work in modern day PCs.
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On the other hand, if they are not ensuring compatibility with modern operative systems anymore, should not they return the money, as they would be breaking the agreement with the customer?
A game being compatible with current (modern day) PCs will stay compatible with current PCs. GOG doesn't need to put any further work into them. And in case of Windows 10 they even clearly state that future updates of the OS could break compatibility! That's the exact opposite of guaranteeing compatibility. Furthermore there's already games in the catalogue that are oficially NOT compatible with Windows 10! Just one example: https://www.gog.com/game/hitman_2_silent_assassin

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real.geizterfahr: Windows 7 doesn't get updates anymore
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Carradice: Bold claim. It neglects the different kinds of updates an operative system may receive, or not. Hint: W7 = WXP? Nope.
Windows 7 is out of regular support for quite some time already. All it gets are security fixes. They usually don't break offline programs.

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real.geizterfahr: It's just you reading what you WANT to read
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Carradice: Heh. That got personal fast... Lack of anything interesting to say does that... ¬¬ Cheerio
That wasn't meant offensive. It was meant in a factual way. GOG doesn't sell games that are guaranteed to run on current and future systems. GOG sells games that have individual requirements (sometimes even specific versions of horribly outdated GPU drivers!) clearly written on each game's page. If you read a "Games are guaranteed to run on whatever current system you have" there, than that's what you want to read and NOT what GOG says.

GOG will always try to keep their games compatible (that's kind of their USP). But they don't guarantee it. So there's no reason to give people their money back if a game stops working and GOG can't fix it. You buy a product "as it is" without any right to fixes that might have to be made in the future. If Microsoft breaks it a few years down the road, that's bad luck but no reason for a refund.
Liquid Entertainment was dissolved (oh, the irony...) this year so their games are in danger of disappearing, too. These would be Battle Realms and D&D Dragonshard.