Posted November 19, 2014

my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom

Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted November 19, 2014
Yes. Some games install themselves on first run - including Half-Life 2, by the way. So all you need Steam for is to download the files, you may them copy them outside of Steam folder and run them for the first time there.

SentinelWolf
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Portugal
Posted November 19, 2014



Rinu
Videogame Addict
Registered: Oct 2009
From Czech Republic
Posted November 19, 2014

Additionally, the terms now state that creators who are unable to stand by the promises they made in their project may be subject to legal action by backers. (The possibility of legal action has always existed, but that part was not spelled out clearly in the previous terms.

Anyway, I guess Elite Dangerous managed to convert a solid number of potential crowdfunding backers to "Never again" persons successfully.

mangamuscle
Necromancer
Registered: Dec 2012
From Mexico
Posted November 19, 2014
Not really, it is just a database so someone could do their own. The original elite used a fibonacci algorithm to generate the galaxy, so they could simply reimplement the original algorithm and use a database to save any changes.

jamotide
Jack Keane 2016!
Registered: Jul 2011
From Netherlands
Posted November 19, 2014



JAAHAS
100% Steamless
Registered: Sep 2008
From Finland
Posted November 19, 2014


And apparently they are not going to refund anyone who pledged for the game in the Kickstarter, even those like me who specifically only pledged after the DRM-free offline mode was promised and who also only pledged below any alpha or beta access tier.
Lets see if they bother to respond to my feedback ticket that points out to them that they are not properly following the Kickstarter's procedure for handling unmet goals, nor can they claim to process our request case by case if they just copy and paste two different arguments to justify not refunding my pledge when they should know that they have not given me anything to download yet.

Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted November 19, 2014

1) Downloaded Half-Life 2
2) Copied the game's folder outside of Steam.
3) Deleted the game via Steam
4) Turned off Steam
5) Launched the game from the copied over folder. Game works fine, first launch is as quick as usual, saved games work properly, options get stored correctly.
For all intents and purposes, the original Half-life 2 can be considered DRM-free. The expansions are too, but they require you to create a link with a parameter (in other words, launch hl2.exe -episodic or something like that). You don't even need to ever launch HL2 via Steam for the first time. Copying the game over to a completely Steamless system is something I have successfully tried at one point previously, worked fine as well.

Getcomposted
Meeping away
Registered: Aug 2009
From United Kingdom

joriandrake
Blue Dragon
Registered: Oct 2014
From Hungary
Posted November 19, 2014

"Will you give people refunds?
We have started responding to requests where there is a clear outcome:
- Those who have pre-ordered an Elite: Dangerous release version from our online store and have therefore not yet played the game are eligible for a refund.
- Those who have already been playing the game online in the Alpha and/or Beta phases, regardless of whether they backed the project via Kickstarter or purchased access to Alpha and/or Beta through our online store, are not eligible for a refund."
So, if you have already played the game, you're out of luck. If you haven't, and you're not happy with the situation, request a refund.
Or do they consider the backers "pre-orderers"?

mqstout
Pittsburgh cis-gay-male
Registered: Jun 2010
From United States
Posted November 19, 2014
Hello,
Thank you for getting in touch with us requesting a refund due to our announcement that we were not able to include an offline mode in Elite: Dangerous. We are sorry you have chosen to do this but understand the disappointment it has caused some people.
We have started responding to requests where there is a clear outcome:
Those who have pre-ordered a Elite: Dangerous release version from our online store and have therefore not yet played the game are eligible for a refund.
Those who have already been playing the game online in the Alpha and/or Beta phases, regardless of whether they backed the project via Kickstarter or purchased access to Alpha and/or Beta through our online store, are not eligible for a refund.
We haven't yet responded to your request as each one takes us some time to investigate. We want to make sure we treat each person's situation with the thoroughness it deserves, and therefore ask that you bear with us over the next few working days as we look into your request.
Thanks in advance for your patience.
Support
Frontier Developments PLC

JAAHAS
100% Steamless
Registered: Sep 2008
From Finland
Posted November 19, 2014


Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic

JAAHAS
100% Steamless
Registered: Sep 2008
From Finland
Posted November 19, 2014

"Will you give people refunds?
We have started responding to requests where there is a clear outcome:
- Those who have pre-ordered an Elite: Dangerous release version from our online store and have therefore not yet played the game are eligible for a refund.
- Those who have already been playing the game online in the Alpha and/or Beta phases, regardless of whether they backed the project via Kickstarter or purchased access to Alpha and/or Beta through our online store, are not eligible for a refund."
So, if you have already played the game, you're out of luck. If you haven't, and you're not happy with the situation, request a refund.

Or do they consider the backers "pre-orderers"?

jamotide
Jack Keane 2016!
Registered: Jul 2011
From Netherlands