Posted December 27, 2016
bler144
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trentonlf
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Posted December 27, 2016
If Hyper swapped me and bler, that makes bler the minion and me a villager right?
drealmer7
finding balance
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Posted December 27, 2016
because he's not telling us I'm guessing it was blotunga
because he doesn't have a read on blotunga and wants to know the call to make
because he doesn't have a read on blotunga and wants to know the call to make
bler144
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Posted December 27, 2016
heh
I'll leave you two to guess which of you that's in response to.
I'll leave you two to guess which of you that's in response to.
cristigale
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Posted December 27, 2016
cristigale: I was tempted to look at drealmer but chose 2 cards. Adalia can back this up. I'm not revealing the other at this time.
bler144: Why were you tempted to peek drealmer, both vs. the strategic option of seeing 2 out of play cards, or peeking any other player? cristigale: Yes, that is what I am saying. One of the cards I drew was Mason. I did not draw a werewolf card, cannot confirm that.
bler144: This phrasing is odd. Why did you write "cannot confirm that"? In this scenario zeo was lying about being seer, right? So why would you "confirm" what he was saying in any case? cristigale: A lot has transpired since this but right now my vote would be on zeo. From my perspective, it's a likely 50/50 shot of him being a wolf or a minion. If he is the minion, I don't have a good feel for who is the wolf.
bler144: What's your view on trent's new claim? What's your feel on who the wolf is now? I'm traveling tomorrow, I'll try to use some of that time to sort out which options I find the most believable. For me, i think determining whether trent is lying or telling the truth about his role is key. The other key is determining who is the second real villager. And the consequences of HSL's switch. Right now my guess for wolf is zeo or blotunga.
bler144
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Posted December 27, 2016
Was half asleep and then I figured it out. This is going to be quite the finish.
gogtrial34987
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Posted December 27, 2016
drealmer7: because he's not telling us I'm guessing it was blotunga
because he doesn't have a read on blotunga and wants to know the call to make
Agreed that the swap with blotunga makes most sense. One well known quantity, swapped with one pretty much unknown quantity, for maximum reveal possibility. To be fair, I could be the unknown quantity as well, which would be disappointing (villager swapped with (robber turned) villager), but I figure blotunga has the higher chance. because he doesn't have a read on blotunga and wants to know the call to make
So, bler, how does it feel to be scum now? Have you figured out which type of scum you are? Based on your last post, I think you have a suspicion. That makes me hope I was picked for the switch after all, because then you can reveal that insight.
Post-merge:
gogtrial34987: For all his excellent play (well, up to his recent increasingly desperate and barely veiled warnings about how the werewolves should respond to HSL's reveal), I believe the key to truly cracking which role(s) are held by trent and blotunga is to be found in Zeo's posts.
For me, figuring out that puzzle will be tomorrow, though. Off to bed now. o/
HypersomniacLive: How's that puzzle solving going? For me, figuring out that puzzle will be tomorrow, though. Off to bed now. o/
Post edited December 27, 2016 by gogtrial34987
adaliabooks
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Posted December 27, 2016
So.... bler might now be scum, depending on which villager he was swapped with.
blotunga seems to have gone AWOL, as has Hunter...
I'm not sure I buy trent's lone wolf claim / scenario.
At this very moment in time I believe the tanner isn't in play. No one is really jumping out as seeking to draw attention. If there is a tanner I think my best guess would be zeo but (no offence zeo) I don't really see him playing the role that subtly with my experience of his previous games...
If we assume trent is at least part of the wolf / minion triangle (but we don't know which part) then zeo would have to be the other and blotunga or trial the last... (though bler may take one of their places)
If lone wolf is true than we have a 1 / 3 chance of getting it right and the other 2 lose us the game...
*sigh*
At this very moment, who is everyone considering voting for?
For me I'm really starting to lean zeo. I think he's been wolfing it up all along and hoping we would think him the minion or tanner.
Second would be blotunga.
But Hyper and trent's reveals may change that dramatically if we get any kind of confession :)
blotunga seems to have gone AWOL, as has Hunter...
I'm not sure I buy trent's lone wolf claim / scenario.
At this very moment in time I believe the tanner isn't in play. No one is really jumping out as seeking to draw attention. If there is a tanner I think my best guess would be zeo but (no offence zeo) I don't really see him playing the role that subtly with my experience of his previous games...
If we assume trent is at least part of the wolf / minion triangle (but we don't know which part) then zeo would have to be the other and blotunga or trial the last... (though bler may take one of their places)
If lone wolf is true than we have a 1 / 3 chance of getting it right and the other 2 lose us the game...
*sigh*
At this very moment, who is everyone considering voting for?
For me I'm really starting to lean zeo. I think he's been wolfing it up all along and hoping we would think him the minion or tanner.
Second would be blotunga.
But Hyper and trent's reveals may change that dramatically if we get any kind of confession :)
Hunter65536
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Posted December 27, 2016
Might vote for trent unless hyper reveals anymore, don't see myself voting zeo in any case he is not trying to lay low at all which is something I'd expect a wolf to do.
drealmer7
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Posted December 27, 2016
the way zeo came at everything out of the gate makes me think he's the minion
he knew his wolf was inexperienced and wouldn't know how to set up the angles (like saying he peeked a middle card as the fake seer) - he had to get out in front of his wolf and coach them as he coached everyone else
it all points to trent
I know I said it, but, yep, still is where I'm at,
until we know who HSL switched, trent is the vote, imo
he knew his wolf was inexperienced and wouldn't know how to set up the angles (like saying he peeked a middle card as the fake seer) - he had to get out in front of his wolf and coach them as he coached everyone else
it all points to trent
I know I said it, but, yep, still is where I'm at,
until we know who HSL switched, trent is the vote, imo
drealmer7
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Posted December 27, 2016
we actually might want everyone to declare who they think is a wolf (especially trent and zeo) before HSL tells us the rest
blotunga
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gogtrial34987
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Posted December 27, 2016
blotunga: @gogtrial: only because I woke up 8 hours later than the rest of you guys, being in a different timezone makes my villager claim less believable.
On the face of it, I actually found your claim extra believable due to its lateness. You made it when there were three villager claims already, as well as one seer claim about a villager in the middle. A wolf might've opted for a less contested space to claim. And thanks for your other thoughts! More of that, please, when you have the time!
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Posted December 27, 2016
gogtrial34987: Agreed that the swap with blotunga makes most sense. One well known quantity, swapped with one pretty much unknown quantity, for maximum reveal possibility.
I'm pretty sure that's not quite right. I'll explain in just a bit if I can steal some time to write it up this afternoon, but I'll explain what I think HSL is doing and what it means. But ultimately it should be good for town, whether or not it's good for me.
Had guests over this a.m. and my laptop decided to crap out, so I've got to fix the windows install after lunch before I do anything else.
drealmer7
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Posted December 27, 2016
do keep in mind it is crucial that you should be trying to figure out your actual wincon and be playing to it