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Considering it's Christmas Eve (or it's going to be very soon) it's totally understandable that people will be most likely with their families and close ones.

That being the case, don't mind the deadline too much or the inability to post that often. If needed, we can extend the Day Phase a bit to compensate the Christmas days.

With that said, I wish everyone a very merry Christmas!
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zeogold: Too unlikely. As Adalia pointed out, we need to park our vote on one of the four villager claims.
If you're indeed the minion, then this strengthening of the werewolf hiding amongst the villagers narrative seems to indicate that the real werewolf (-wolves?) is hiding somewhere else. Hunter with his late claim seems suspicious there. Only cristi's 2nd curtain could still challenge that. (And of course rather risky due to his claimed ability...) And that would make trent Tanner, I guess? Or blotunga?

Alternative hiding spots for wolves could be bler+drealmer? Cristi+adalia? Huh, yeah, you said those already. Hmm... So maybe you're right pretty much all the way, and just wrong about me. If trent is wolf, then who's tanner? Maybe in the middle this game?

@blotunga: Which other villager do you distrust most?
@trent: Same question for you?

HSL: I sure hope you picked two interesting roles to swap!
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gogtrial34987:
>trying to draw suspicion off the villagers
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/452961105522872320/eFX_I4Nt.jpeg
The tanner and the minion are the most interesting to look out for (and most dangerous).
One needs to be the lynch to win, the other doesn't necessarily but definitely benefits from drawing heat (assuming they can successfully stay distanced from the wolves, not difficult considering the wolves don't even know they exist).

So far no one is leaping out at me as really gunning to draw attention. zeo looks far more like a wolf than a tanner or minion if he is faking it, I can certainly see cristi's play equating to either role but she's not pushing it quite as much as I'd expect if she was looking to be caught out.

Unless cristi is the Seer and has seen one of those two cards then there must be at least one of the Tanner or Minion in play...

I'm reasonably happy to assume one of the villagers is lying (about what I'm not yet sure) and focus my attention there. As has already been mentioned, either zeo or cristi seem too high risk targets at the moment (and with the information we have).


Also, this is probably the closest I've been to confirmed town (other than me and cristi as a pair and being incredibly lucky there are no real masons, there isn't really a way I can see of me being scum) in a hell of a long time.... :D
Yeah, I think adalia is pretty safe in the not getting voted camp. For once ;)
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zeogold: Too unlikely. As Adalia pointed out, we need to park our vote on one of the four villager claims.
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gogtrial34987: If you're indeed the minion, then this strengthening of the werewolf hiding amongst the villagers narrative seems to indicate that the real werewolf (-wolves?) is hiding somewhere else. Hunter with his late claim seems suspicious there. Only cristi's 2nd curtain could still challenge that. (And of course rather risky due to his claimed ability...) And that would make trent Tanner, I guess? Or blotunga?

Alternative hiding spots for wolves could be bler+drealmer? Cristi+adalia? Huh, yeah, you said those already. Hmm... So maybe you're right pretty much all the way, and just wrong about me. If trent is wolf, then who's tanner? Maybe in the middle this game?

@blotunga: Which other villager do you distrust most?
@trent: Same question for you?

HSL: I sure hope you picked two interesting roles to swap!
I could imagine trent as a tanner, however I kinda lost the thread of speculations so I don't really remember everything about who what claimed about whom.
Catching up, currently at post #60.
IDK, to the extent I'm on top of what's going on I'd say cristi's revealing next, plus she's here.

Then HSL and then we can actually get down to business.
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cristigale: Catching up, currently at post #60.
So it's been like 90 minutes. I know you have 100 posts to catch up on, but the next step is you sharing.

If you're town, you don't need to be caught up for that step.
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adaliabooks: there isn't really a way I can see of me being scum
HSL could've swapped you and Cristi.
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adaliabooks: there isn't really a way I can see of me being scum
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zeogold: HSL could've swapped you and Cristi.
True, assuming it's cristi who is scum.
But presumably HSL will claim his action and is also fairly solid town (he could be a lone wolf who peeked troublemaker I suppose) so if he says he hasn't touched me I'm still town.
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cristigale: Catching up, currently at post #60.
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bler144: So it's been like 90 minutes. I know you have 100 posts to catch up on, but the next step is you sharing.

If you're town, you don't need to be caught up for that step.
Yes, sorry, realized after I started that the dog didn't have a walk yet. Needed to get that in before dark. I'm on the last page, but have only skimmed portions of it....zeo sure has a a lot of BS, ironically, reading him this game is the chore, not drealmer.

So first, I might have messed up with how I approached my role. Had I held my information closer, longer, we might have got more from it. It is what it is and will be interesting discussion post game. Didn't anticipate the game being that crazy right out of the gate.

To answer gog's question, dedo had me choose between cards 1-3. I chose cards 2 and 3. Card 2 was the mason and card 3 was in fact a villager.

So there is no guarantee that there is only a single wolf (unless you believe zeo). Zeo could claim that as tanner, minion or wolf., He would know it for fact if he was a the lone wolf or minion. Doing that as a tanner seems quite risky, so I'm leaning towards minion or wolf. As minion or lone wolf, he would know one card was wolf. Now he could be guessing lucky as the minion (best percentage guess), but since he correctly 'guessed' one of the cards, I'm leaning slightly lone wolf. I'll point out after supper why I thought he chose the mason card (I think that is still possible, but that is one of the things I may have played wrong).

@dedo - thanks for the extension on the deadline
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adaliabooks: (he could be a lone wolf who peeked troublemaker I suppose)
At this point, I'd trust him being town. If he's not, there are too many unexplained conflicting claims (1 extra seer, 2 extra villagers). It's possible that we have a townie lying, it just...doesn't make sense. Not in this game, at least.

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cristigale: zeo sure has a a lot of BS, ironically, reading him this game is the chore
Thank you, thank you, you're too kind. I would like to consider my win condition as Village Idiot to be fulfilled and look forwards to our next thrilling game!
*continues playing drums*

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cristigale: card 3 was in fact a villager.
Oh, that's rich.

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cristigale: I thought he chose the mason card
Wait, sorry, you think I'm a lone wolf who turned up a mason card, or an actual second mason?
'Cause neither of those make any sense whatsoever to me unless I'm missing something here. AT least the minion/tanner accusation had some viable reasoning behind it, but had I found the mason card, wouldn't I have taken the opportunity to point this out before now?
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adaliabooks: And I see zeo has claimed Villager is the other card... cristi, any thoughts on that?
I think it's possible he is telling the truth on this. Zeo either
1. picked that card as the lone wolf
2. picked the mason card as LW and had enough information at that point to safely go with Villager (is there really a way to discredit this, this may be a safe choice all around)
3. The same as #2 except as a minion

@all - is it safe for wolf/minion to claim he peeked at a Villager card? I think the answer is yes, but not sure.

For me it comes down to, is zeo that minion or the wolf? If he is the minion, the wolf is hiding in the villager claims. I see no reason at this point to doubt any of the other claims.
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adaliabooks: And I see zeo has claimed Villager is the other card... cristi, any thoughts on that?
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cristigale: I think it's possible he is telling the truth on this.
>"zeo sure has a lot of BS"
>"he is telling the truth"
Mm.

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cristigale: is it safe for wolf/minion to claim he peeked at a Villager card? I think the answer is yes, but not sure
In a 3-villager game, yes, it's not exactly a tough one. People are likelier to believe the seer claim than the villagers who can't prove themselves.