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drealmer7: cristigale - 1 - Bookwyrm627
Bookwyrm627 unvoted in post 227. Doesn't matter if he unvoted someone other than the one he was voting for, unvote means unvote.

So, Day 1, 1PM votecount

Ixamyakxim has 4 votes: Dessimu, flubbucket, yogsloth, trentonlf
Lifthrasil has 3 votes: Ixamyakxim, Krypsyn, RWarehall
yogsloth has 1 vote: CSPVG
CSPVG has 1 vote: dedoporno
krypsyn has 1 vote: Lifthrasil

Ixamyakxim is closest to lynch at L-3
Lifthrasil is 2nd closest to lynch at L-4

12 alive means it takes 7 to lynch

Not voting, 2: cristigale and bookwyrm627
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trentonlf:
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Ixamyakxim: It was even more stupid than that (confusing the two names with players). I literally read this post:

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Dessimu: …post from Dessimu…
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Ixamyakxim: and for some reason had it in my head as Lifthrasil's not Dessimu's. It just read as "different" from the previous posts using RP to cast votes.

As far as why I didn't switch votes. Meh, this seems as good a place as any.
Mumsy, you’re breaking my heart. Your reason for voting Lift was attributed to Dessimu but your vote stays put. Seems pretty scummy.

Vote Ixamyakxim

Ixam and Lift have the most votes at the moment. It’s hard for me to believe that both Ixam and Lift are scum. I don’t see the scum signs in Lift that Krypsyn and RWarehall allude to seeing. My hesitation is that I’ve been fooled by scum-Lift in the past. For now, I’m giving Dessimu the benefit of the doubt on his early play. He is still near the top of my list.
Huh.

I was all set to post that I thought Ixamyakxim was a bad lynch target, but then I read back through his posts. Not much concrete there (mostly RP and/or reacting to RP), which is a problem for a variety of reasons. My main concern is that I think other lynches might tell us more in later Days, when analyzing wagons.

So, to rectify this, in case Ixamyakxim is town and ends up mislynched, I'll ask:

Ixamyakxim, if you had to choose right now, who are your top 3 scum guesses? Who are your top three town guesses?

(It'll also be informative if he is scum and lynched, though a bit more WIFOMy)
For the record, I still think Lifthrasil is more likely scum than Ixamyakxim. If Lifthrasil is scum, then I am fairly confident cristigale is as well. The third slot, assuming a normal 1 Mafia : 3 Town ratio, is tougher for me to call. Flubbucket is ringing some warning bells for me, but... meh... what's new? So is trentonlf. On the other hand, I am pretty confident dedoporno, RWarehall, Dessimu, Bookwyrm627, and yogsloth (though he has duped me hard in the past) are town.

However, this is Day 1, and it must be accepted that a mislynch is a strong possibility (regardless of the target). I just want to make sure we get the most information possible out of any lynch before Day 1 ends.

(Heh, I just noticed that I ended up essentially making a rough reads list there. If you are following along, does that count Vitek?!)
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Krypsyn: For the record, I still think Lifthrasil is more likely scum than Ixamyakxim. If Lifthrasil is scum, then I am fairly confident cristigale is as well. T
Heh.
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Krypsyn: ...
Ixamyakxim, if you had to choose right now, who are your top 3 scum guesses? Who are your top three town guesses?
I like what I read here. I had same idea of telling my best 3 scum/town guesses for future analysis in case I got at the end of a rope. But Krypsyn was smart enough to ask this of Ixamyakxim.


I did not like this statement at all:
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Ixamyakxim: And we all know I'm not getting lynched today, so you lot shouldn't waste your vote. Oh, by day two or three I'll be locked in on someone obsessively for some perceived mistake they made, and hopefully they'll even be scum. By day five I'll have done something so egregiously wrong or put my foot too far down my throat that you'll have to put me down.

But not today. Go ahead, throw your vote away.
We know you are getting nearer the lynch. And you do not do a good job defending yourself. You reaction is pretty much "Meh. Lynch? Oh well. Shit, I made a wrong vote. Whatever. Ok, guys, I am too smart to be lynched. Now go away, shoo!" - how is this town? Then you introduce one WIFOM after another in future prediction of yours. And "..you'll have to put me down" seems like a statement "I was scum after all - HAH". If by any chance you were not scum, you are not a normal town either.

There is some bad juju around you, Ixamyakxim.


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cristigale: For now, I’m giving Dessimu the benefit of the doubt
Thank you I guess.


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Krypsyn: So is trentonlf.
What about him? I mean, ever since the sign-ups to the game, I was kind of interested to see a "town" trentonlf in play. So because of this and because I am not familiar with him, I am asking - what about trentonlf makes him look suspicious? For the record, I am neither defending him, nor accusing.


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Krypsyn: However, this is Day 1, and it must be accepted that a mislynch is a strong possibility (regardless of the target). I just want to make sure we get the most information possible out of any lynch before Day 1 ends.
I can see how lynching Lifthrasil gives more information on Day 2, though I myself feel more confident on voting Ixamyakxim. And a mislynch is just statistically way higher possibility, so no acceptances are necessary. We just go either for the one most scummy looking or for the one scummy looking, who gives more info to analyze later. Day 1 is a bitch (sorry for the language).


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dedoporno: That's what bastards are for.
If I was more familiar with role shenanigans, I would say this sounds like a claim of having a bastard role. But really, I doubt that. So just stay away from my sister or you'll find yourself among lonely sailors.
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Krypsyn: ......<snip>..........

So, to rectify this, in case Ixamyakxim is town and ends up mislynched, I'll ask:

Ixamyakxim, if you had to choose right now, who are your top 3 scum guesses? Who are your top three town guesses?

(It'll also be informative if he is scum and lynched, though a bit more WIFOMy)
Have mercy....

Unvote: Ixamyakxim

Vote: Krypsyn
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Ixamyakxim: And we all know I'm not getting lynched today, so you lot shouldn't waste your vote. Oh, by day two or three I'll be locked in on someone obsessively for some perceived mistake they made, and hopefully they'll even be scum. By day five I'll have done something so egregiously wrong or put my foot too far down my throat that you'll have to put me down.

But not today. Go ahead, throw your vote away.
Let's test that theory, shall we?

Vote Ixam.
Actually, Ixam, your voting behaviour is strange. You place a random vote based on flavour on me. Then you find out, that one scummy thing you thought I did, was actually done by Dessimu. () And you state that you don't see the 'role fishing' that some others wanted to see in my flavour post. ([url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_game_36_a_familys_fortune/post288]288)

But still you keep your vote on me. May I ask why? Of course, I am at the moment the second viable train and you might want to keep my train going to save yourself. Understandable. But not a very good town reason for voting, is it?

At the moment you look very suspicious and I'm only not voting for you, because that would put you on L-1 and open the possibility of a speedhammer. I don't want to risk that before you reply. But please do reply and explain your voting behaviour.
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Lifthrasil: Actually, Ixam, your voting behaviour is strange. You place a random vote based on flavour on me. Then you find out, that one scummy thing you thought I did, was actually done by Dessimu. () And you state that you don't see the 'role fishing' that some others wanted to see in my flavour post. ([url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_game_36_a_familys_fortune/post288]288)

But still you keep your vote on me. May I ask why? Of course, I am at the moment the second viable train and you might want to keep my train going to save yourself. Understandable. But not a very good town reason for voting, is it?

At the moment you look very suspicious and I'm only not voting for you, because that would put you on L-1 and open the possibility of a speedhammer. I don't want to risk that before you reply. But please do reply and explain your voting behaviour.
I asked him why he didn't switch votes also since he based his vote on you for something Dessimu said, this was his response:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_game_36_a_familys_fortune/post285
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Lifthrasil: Of course, I am at the moment the second viable train and you might want to keep my train going to save yourself. Understandable. But not a very good town reason for voting, is it?
Preferring to lynch a possible townie instead of a confirmed townie is not good town behavior? This assumes, of course, that he is town.
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trentonlf: I asked him why he didn't switch votes also since he based his vote on you for something Dessimu said, this was his response:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_game_36_a_familys_fortune/post285
This Ixamyakxim's answer is basically saying "Oops, I was I wrong - Dessimu voted me based on flavor, not Lifthrasil." and then "Whatever, I still vote Lifthrasil".

In other words, I think Lifthrasil saw this answer you provided now. The question is, however, WHY Ixamyakxim acts in a "Meh, it is not important" way.
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Krypsyn: ~ stuff about peoples ~
What about Dad?


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Dessimu: If I was more familiar with role shenanigans, I would say this sounds like a claim of having a bastard role. But really, I doubt that. So just stay away from my sister or you'll find yourself among lonely sailors.
The only bastardly thing about my person is the legal status of my character.




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Lifthrasil: At the moment you look very suspicious and I'm only not voting for you, because that would put you on L-1 and open the possibility of a speedhammer. I don't want to risk that before you reply. But please do reply and explain your voting behaviour.
L-2 IS the new L-1! What a time to be alive! How very townie and considerate of you. Mom.
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dedoporno: L-2 IS the new L-1! What a time to be alive! How very townie and considerate of you. Mom.
Funny
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Dessimu: What about [trentonlf]?
Seriously, what about him? I'll let you dwell on that.

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flubbucket: Have mercy....
Totally.

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dedoporno: What about [CSPVG]?
I was sure I mentioned him; perhaps my read of him is lurking.