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bjgamer: @Joe
You read Pookina as town due to Trent's post on remembering who to unvote shouldn't be that difficult. Was that just a feeling based on Trent, or did you have other reads on Pookina also?
Oh yeah what Trent said made me think it was more likely Pooka's town, but also the way he did something new and attention drawing and then questioned my town-read of him.


Seeing the vote count I'm gonna switch my vote to NMillar, who I have at the same sort of read as Catte. The deadline's been moved, but it doesn't mean we have time to wait around :T

unovote Catte
Vote nmillar
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my name is coole catte: Nah, it was ZFR's Potter game.
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Vitek: There was a game waaaaaaaaaaay back when flub was to become innocent child on D4.

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nmillar: They should still be allowed time to make an informed contribution to D1, especially with "confirmed town" status! And I'm putting that in quotations, because we all know there's no such things as 100% confirmed.
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Vitek: Unless they are indeed confirmed as happened here, don't try to doubt that.
I doubt everything even when it's more or less 100% confirmed. Lack of doubt has caused town to shoot itself in the foot more than once, but i agree that is fairly unlikely in this scenario.

That wagon is starting to build quickly, so better get myself down to the bakery.
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Vitek: There was a game waaaaaaaaaaay back when flub was to become innocent child on D4.
Which game was that, if I may ask?

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Vitek: Unless they are indeed confirmed as happened here, don't try to doubt that.
BJGamer is more or less confirmed town, although there is a RARE chance they could also be third party....but eh, what are the odds Lift would hit a neutral?

Was gonna point that possibility out earlier, but also wanted to see who would say what about Lift's shot results re: the new player......comments like this post of yours and those of people like Catte(several posts back) make me lean such posts and players more town, and others like Joe(Post 245) and NMillar(the post you quoted) I could lean either way.
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my name is coole catte: Nah, it was ZFR's Potter game.
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Vitek: There was a game waaaaaaaaaaay back when flub was to become innocent child on D4.
On D1. He wask killed N4. My game too.
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GymHenson: BJGamer is more or less confirmed town, although there is a RARE chance they could also be third party....but eh, what are the odds Lift would hit a neutral?
Lift hit the person who was dropping out. So "odds Lift would hit a neutral" have no bearing on this.
Okay, this is not what I intended with my comment. I was purely putting my thoughts down rather than intending to distract everyone with an irrelevant discussion.

The likelihood of BJGamer being anything but town is remote to say the least, so can we please stop speculating about this and pursue more likely suspects.

Yes, including me, if you must.
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GymHenson: Which game was that, if I may ask?
My Game #16.

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GymHenson: although there is a RARE chance they could also be third party....but eh, what are the odds Lift would hit a neutral?
I missed he dies even if he hits neutral.
If it would happen, neutral shouldn't be our primary target in any case so even if they were, we should mostly ignore it.
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GymHenson: Which game was that, if I may ask?
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Vitek: My Game #16.
Woot. flub was innocent Child twice??

I swear I did a research on previous games with IC when I was planning mine and I missed this one.
Just an FYI, flub is a guilty man and not an innocent child...
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ZFR: Lift hit the person who was dropping out. So "odds Lift would hit a neutral" have no bearing on this.
I was just musing a bit, but go back and read Lift's description of it....he would "die" if he shot at town OR neutral.

Again, I was just musing(as I am particular about nitpicky details sometimes) and I also believe BJGamer to be town.

That said, I agree with NMillar that we should move one from this.

(Bump please)
NVM no bump needed
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Vitek: My Game #16.
Thanks for this

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Vitek: I missed he dies even if he hits neutral.
If it would happen, neutral shouldn't be our primary target in any case so even if they were, we should mostly ignore it.
Agreed on ignoring it
DAY WILL END AROUND 36 HOURS FROM NOW
I'm just dropping by to say today was a very exhausting day and still going, so not going to read right now. I'll come again a bit later in the evening and catch up then.
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Vitek: There was a game waaaaaaaaaaay back when flub was to become innocent child on D4.
Flub was also an innocent child from the beginning in ZFR's Arstotzkan mafia game.

There are two things we can tell by this. ZFR likes innocent children (steady on) and Flub is a magnet for that role.
Mmmm. On the comment nmillar made about bjgamer not being fully confirmed:

On the one hand it's technically correct, but on the other hand it's exactly the sort of doubt I'd try and sow if I was mafia.