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Leonard03: Well there's something new.
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Krypsyn: I thought for sure Bookwyrm627 would catch it and/or comment on it first, since it seems he is reading through the thread currently.

Regardless, it isn't new, but it is the first clear evidence. It is the second time I have gone "off script", so to speak. You get 50 Krypsyn Points if you can guess what the trigger was. ;)
I wondered if there was a more advanced algorithm going on here...
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Leonard03: I wondered if there was a more advanced algorithm going on here...
Nope. There was just an end condition.
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Leonard03: I wondered if there was a more advanced algorithm going on here...
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Krypsyn: Nope. There was just an end condition.
500 posts?
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ZFR: 500 posts?
No. It wasn't the end of Day warning either.
Krypsyn Points...lol
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flubbucket: Krypsyn Points...lol
Yes, they have entirely no value. They don't even look pretty.
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adaliabooks: Even if we hit scum today if they can pull off two conversions we are still in a really bad position, so everything we do should be trying to stop conversions from happening.
We do that by
a) Killing claimed vanillas
b) Trying not to get our masons outed
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mchack: c) lynching scum

Guess what, I'm for c!
C doesn't stop any conversions, and may enable one. Even if we could kill 3 scum on Day 1, that would still leave a conversion open to hit a claimed vanilla.

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adaliabooks: I know you guys probably all think I'm crazy, but there is method to my madness. I'm not just shouting nonsense into the bushes for no reason whatsoever...
Dude! Stop revealing my position!

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adaliabooks:
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mchack: You think killing town is helping town.
Mischaracterization.

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mchack: "Someone targeted by two recruitments at the same time, dies."

flub will simply die. no liability anymore and better yet, two scumshots wasted on one townie.

So who here is really thinking it would be a great thing, to remove this complexity from scum? who here thinks it is townie to do scums work and let scum have a free pick at all the other seven town players tonight?
I was actually considering moving my vote for precisely this reason. Now that scum have been reminded of this possibility, there is no point in keeping him alive. -.-

At worst, Flub is vanilla town. At best, he's scum. Either way, he needs to die, especially since we don't know if we're actually doing scum's work for them.

Don't worry Flub. If you're town, you can win or lose with me.

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mchack: Even if we lynch flubs, two town vanilla can get converted and we have 6 scum instead of 5 (if we lynch adalia and the same happens).
Two town vanilla could be converted regardless of whether we lynch scum.

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adaliabooks: If we lynch him today he is still town and wins with the rest of us (assuming we do win), otherwise he is likely to become scum and assisting us further plays against his future win condition.
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mchack: Second also wrong because, he plays for fun, not to win, he said so himself.
Both your links show him saying he plays for fun. Neither link shows him saying he does not play to win.

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adaliabooks: flub ... may play for fun but I don't think he will play to lose.

So just in case it wasn't clear there are two people I am willing to vote today flub or mchack.
I'm in agreement with both these statements.

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mchack: And where are your 4 scumreads? I see exactly 1 and thats me, ... but you're not even voting me
*facepalm*

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dedoporno: I don't know about you but I don't have 4 scum reads either :D
Slacker! I've got 5 and counting!!

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Krypsyn: I thought for sure Bookwyrm627 would catch it and/or comment on it first, since it seems he is reading through the thread currently.
I'm a slow reader, but I'm just about done. It was certainly noteworthy, though.

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Krypsyn: Regardless, it isn't new, but it is the first clear evidence. It is the second time I have gone "off script", so to speak. You get 50 Krypsyn Points if you can guess what the trigger was. ;)
You didn't like the cut of his jibe?

The first off-script was because of a mistake.

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Krypsyn: Yes, they have entirely no value. They don't even look pretty.
Do they make you more likely to be scum in future games?
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Bookwyrm627: The first off-script was because of a mistake.
I wasn't actually counting that one. I should say that my vote for trentonlf is mu second intentionally off-script vote of the game.

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Bookwyrm627: Do they make you more likely to be scum in future games?
Possibly.
*disregard*
Post edited October 23, 2017 by Lifthrasil
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Krypsyn: No. It wasn't the end of Day warning either.
Was it this?
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trentonlf: I just love losing as town, pretty sure I've lost more than I've won at this game so I obviously have no grasp on how to play it.
Because that's certainly not the way I remember trent being as town.
Lift, I have a question and a request.

1) Does the new convert get read access when converted, or can they not see the scum thread at all until they start a night as scum?

2) Please post a current vote count. I'm a little surprised at what I'm seeing from an informal one.
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Hunter65536: Because that's certainly not the way I remember trent being as town.
Trentonlf's voting patterns, as much as his rhetoric, have been giving me a metaphoric headache, and that is a big part of the reason my vote is on him now. However, no, that wasn't the trigger.
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Lifthrasil: *disregard*
Careful, you can get modkilled for editing. This game is hard enough as it is, we don't want the mod dying to complicate things further.
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Krypsyn: Yes, they have entirely no value. They don't even look pretty.
So they are priceless, then. Aren't those the best kind?
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dedoporno: So they are priceless, then. Aren't those the best kind?
Absolutely.