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If JMich is Town

If JMich is Town, then both Vitek and HijacK are Town.

Therefore HijacK didn't block the nightkill and so we either have a nasty tricky scum who isn't killing anyone or we have a Cult. Both unfortunate.

Assuming we have a Cult, who's the Leader?

Yogsloth isn't, because he bid for Mystery Role and missed it to bler.
CSPVG isn't, because HijacK confirmed him as vanilla.
HijacK isn't, because he's confirmed JOAT.
JMich isn't, since he's cop.
Vitek isn't, since he's watcher.
I'm not, since I'm triplevoter.

Therefore, if we have a Cult and JMich is Town, then trentonlf is the Cult Leader.


If we don't have a Cult, then who's the last scum?

JMich, Vitek, HijacK, and I aren't scum.
yogsloth may be, and he's even claimed that he would skip the nightkill.
trentonlf could be.
CSPVG could be.



If JMich is scum

If JMich is scum, we might have a Cult or we might not.

If we have a Cult, then neither HijacK nor CSPVG are Cult Leader.
I still don't think yogsloth is, because he bid for Mystery Role.
JMich could be, no info.
trentonlf could be, no info.
Vitek could be, no info.

If we don't have a Cult, then JMich should be last scum, so we need to lynch him.
Whoops, missed the possibility that Vitek is Godfather.

In that case, if JMich is Town and we have a Cult, trentonlf is still the Cult Leader. If JMich is Town and we don't have a Cult, then Vitek is the last scum.


If JMich is Scum, then Vitek isn't the Godfather, because that would be too many scum.

Vitek might be the Cult Leader, but I doubt it, because that would still be too many scum.
REMINDER OF THINGS

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160418T18&p0=70&msg=End+of+Day+Three&font=sanserif&csz=1
May we also get a votecount with the reminder of things?
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agentcarr16: Whoops, missed the possibility that Vitek is Godfather.

In that case, if JMich is Town and we have a Cult, trentonlf is still the Cult Leader. If JMich is Town and we don't have a Cult, then Vitek is the last scum.
I won't dispute I can't be mafia if you only consider claims and knowledge of actions and completely disregard ones play, but still, you say if JMich is town and there is no cult I am mafia. But why not CSPVG, trenton (or even HijacK if you disregard ones play but come on...)?
You jump the shark and say if JMich is town I am godfather.


The same thing in the previous post.
If there is CL you say it is trenton but why him? Why couldn't it be me or JMich? No one confirmed (and will confirm) our roles.
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JMich: May we also get a votecount with the reminder of things?
Okay.
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VOTE COUNT OF THINGS

JMich - 4 - (trentonlf, agentcarr16)

trentonlf - 2 - (yougsloth, JMich)
Post edited April 18, 2016 by flubbucket
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flubbucket: Okay.
Didn't I vote for trentonlf back in 1071? Lovely year, not many things happening.
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flubbucket: Okay.
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JMich: Didn't I vote for trentonlf back in 1071? Lovely year, not many things happening.
Possibly.
Meh.

Vote: Trentonlf.
That's just stellar level of contribution.
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agentcarr16: Whoops, missed the possibility that Vitek is Godfather.

In that case, if JMich is Town and we have a Cult, trentonlf is still the Cult Leader. If JMich is Town and we don't have a Cult, then Vitek is the last scum.
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Vitek: I won't dispute I can't be mafia if you only consider claims and knowledge of actions and completely disregard ones play, but still, you say if JMich is town and there is no cult I am mafia. But why not CSPVG, trenton (or even HijacK if you disregard ones play but come on...)?
You jump the shark and say if JMich is town I am godfather.
There are two possibilities, as JMich has pointed out. If he's Town, then you're either Town or Godfather.

If you're Town, then this is the case.

If you're Scum (Godfather), then this is the case.


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Vitek: The same thing in the previous post.
If there is CL you say it is trenton but why him? Why couldn't it be me or JMich? No one confirmed (and will confirm) our roles.
I say it's trentonlf because if you and JMich are Town, then you're obviously not lying about your roles. Therefore, all roles are "confirmed" except for that of trentonlf.
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Vitek: That's just stellar level of contribution.
I guess it boils down to whether you believe me to be town or not, and voting accordingly. Not much else to do atm.
Let's get this to a tie.

Vote trentonlf
I see no advatage in lynching trenton. It's either JMich to remove the most likely mafia or agent to remove his huge amount fo votes in case he is mafia (or gets recruited to join cult). Eventually both.


Anyone can try to convince me he is our remaining scum, I am open to arguments.


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JMich: I guess it boils down to whether you believe me to be town or not, and voting accordingly. Not much else to do atm.
It was aimed directly at the poster above me (above that previous post), our dear CSPVG.


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agentcarr16: I say it's trentonlf because if you and JMich are Town, then you're obviously not lying about your roles. Therefore, all roles are "confirmed" except for that of trentonlf.
Yeah, but one of us can be. You have no proof we have the role and you arbitrary decided it is him only because we claimed role.
You say if we are town we are not lying but that's what it is about. If we are town we are not lying and trenton is CL.
If trenton is town he is not lying and he is town. Where's the difference?
trent isn't exactly making a shining effort this game.

Call it vibes if you like... but he's my best shot.