drealmer7: I find it really really really fishy as to WHY on EARTH has NO experienced player brought up the idea of a GODFATHER role?
I didn't bring it up because I haven't seen any reason to do so. Adalia claimed unspecified powers and then flipped Town Vanilla, and Hijack has been the first to say he had an investigative role (without specifying whether it was cop or something else, like tracker). No cop, no reason for a Godfather.
drealmer7: Do we really not have a cop among us? I'm really guessing it was JMich or HSL and that we lost them early and now it is just a bloodbath bedlam going on and I'm going to be lucky to get out of it alive.
Let me ask you a similar question to what I asked Yog, waaaay back when. Do you have reason to believe there might be a cop?
That alternative for the Godfather is new to me; if I've seen it, then I'd forgotten it. I would, however, be skeptical that it is the case here. By way of example, lets assume there are two scum teams: if one has a Bulletproof GF, while the other doesn't, then the BGF team seems to have an advantage. If both teams have a BGF, then what happens if those two players end up being the last players left alive? Maybe they lose the Bulletproof after a certain condition is met, but I reject the idea of indefinitely BGF being in the game. Lift is too smart to leave such an obvious possible stalemate in place.
drealmer7: SO THAT IS THE OBVIOUS ANSWER as to why there haven't been multiple kills at night.
I rather think having 3 jailers might have something to do with the lack of kills. But that's just me.
drealmer7: I mean, look already, bookwyrm is wanting to kill whomever came up with AN IDEA first.
Heh.
drealmer7: 1 godfather, neutral. 2 or 3 or 4 scum teams (no telling at this point for me, it's so convoluted with the flips, maybe there are just 2 teams?) each with their own jailers or "protectors" who when they die flip that role for whatever reason and who are by mechanic somehow made to die before the godfather is allowed to die in the game (at least by NK? I suppose nothing can prevent a lynch if a lynch goes?) So maybe we have an alive neutral godfather and multiple teams killing each other, and IF anyone is to try the godfather it simply "deflects" to someone else? OMG so many thoughts to go with this.
If the godfather does get lynched, do you think a new godfather takes the place? I would think not with it being a neutral role and I think that is perhaps what town is going for, of course. You want to eliminate the boss first and foremost! I mean, I've seen enough mob movies. It just MAKES SENSE. and again, really fishy no one has brought anything regarding any of this it up. YOU ARE ALL FISHY TO ME. Well, maybe not bler. HijacK is looking less fishy too.
Wait, what? You start with a crazy idea, and then the LSD kicks in (did you kill Krypsyn and sample his stock?). A godfather makes sense in Prohibition era Mafia game: fine, I can accept that. Yet, somehow this godfather is neutral (not aligned with any mafia), and we have fewer kills because the godfather is (repeatedly!) deflecting attempts to kill him off on other players? And somehow town is supposed to identify this non-mafia godfather and lynch him to win instead of the stated win condition, because he's the boss of all of the competing mafia teams. But at least he probably isn't replaced when he gets lynched.
And everyone (except Bler and Hijack) are scummy because they didn't propose an idea like this before now.
drealmer7: Or maybe I'm just crazy.
No offense, but I'm going to file the previous scenario under the folder you named here.
drealmer7: Just, how many can there be left?! and who the fark is it?
You've already suggested that all of the flips might be false, and also that there might be 8-9 mafia at the start. So I suppose there are 0-8 mafia left, depending on how many town players are left and how many neutral mafia-controlling-godfathers are around.
drealmer7: Just defending the idea/principle, whoever it includes. Myself, bler, or anyone else who might become a target simply for posing an idea. You gave no real reason
why, just said "whoever did it, perhaps we should lynch them!" essentially.
You're right, maybe I'm just scum hoping to point a finger at any old lynch. Or maybe, just maybe, I'm thinking "lets look at the person(s) that suggested not 1, not 2, but
3 mafia teams and see if maybe there was a slip there". Because hey, who'd expect three mafia teams in one game? Not just three mafia jailers, but three full mafia
teams. If there are (were?) two mafia teams, then we've got a few scenarios: 1) One or more jailers flipped incorrectly, 2) One team had more jailers than the other, or 3) There is
yet another mafia jailer running around. After seeing a third mafia jailer flip up, I'd consider 3 teams, but before seeing that 3rd jailer? A little harder for me to buy.
drealmer7: You didn't bother to go find out who it was OR give a reason as to why that mode of action makes any sense. I can understand the view of the thought of suggesting from hidden knowledge, but, if you are posing that idea I think you should actually find who did it first and make an assessment and THEN pose that to the group, instead of just making the statement you made as you did.
What makes you think I
haven't gone back and looked? Why should I spill what I think is the case before seeing some other reactions? Remember what happened when I went to investigate a public claim, based on public data?
