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Are you? ;P

Do you play your games on a modest laptop or on a hefty "all in one"?
Do you like space saving, smaller and discrete devices? That's why Intel HD graphics are so important, right?
Do you play (play well) demanding games on medium setiings or classic ones fairly well?

I'm asking this since, sorry dedicated folks, for me that's the way it should be and that's how I see the whole gpu deal. Power saving, space saving, smaller devices, more powerful gpus (check intel Iris) and better performance over the years.

I don't need state of the art cars, houses, electronic devices and the god above knows I don't need to play games like a pro. So that's why I'm a happy Intel HD user and don't intend to change! :)

Cheers!

ps: yep I have other dedicated devices but I happilly support built-in gpus.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by vicklemos
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vicklemos: Are you? ;P
I am satisfied.
Most of games that I love to play run smoothly on it.
It can handle Crysis 3 at minimum setting what else do I need.
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vicklemos: Do you play your games on a modest laptop or on a hefty "all in one"?
Depends on how you define a "Modest laptop".
If it's a machine with 2GB RAM 1GB Intel HD graphics and 320GB HDD then yes I play it on a modest laptop.
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vicklemos: Do you like space saving, smaller and discrete devices? That's why Intel HD graphics are so important, right
Naah, space saving is overrated.
I have to carry all my HDD in a briefcase.
I choose Intel HD because it was cheaper when I brought my system.
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vicklemos: Do you play (play well) demanding games on medium setiings or classic ones fairly well?
I don't play many demanding games.
I mostly play old games or a game my system can handle.
I play games on minimum settings. No water effect , no shadows and no too many details.
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vicklemos: I'm asking this since, sorry dedicated folks, for me that's the way it should be and that's how I see the whole gpu deal. Power saving, space saving, smaller devices, more powerful gpus (check intel Iris) and better performance over the years.

I don't need state of the art cars, houses, electronic devices and the god above knows I don't need to play games like a pro. So that's why I'm a happy Intel HD user and don't intend to change! :)

Cheers!

ps: yep I have other dedicated devices but I happilly support built-in gpus.
I like dedicated graphics but at that time I was not able to afford it.
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vicklemos: Are you? ;P
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amrit9037: I am satisfied.
Most of games that I love to play run smoothly on it.
It can handle Crysis 3 at minimum setting what else do I need.
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vicklemos: Do you play your games on a modest laptop or on a hefty "all in one"?
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amrit9037: Depends on how you define a "Modest laptop".
If it's a machine with 2GB RAM 1GB Intel HD graphics and 320GB HDD then yes I play it on a modest laptop.
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vicklemos: Do you like space saving, smaller and discrete devices? That's why Intel HD graphics are so important, right
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amrit9037: Naah, space saving is overrated.
I have to carry all my HDD in a briefcase.
I choose Intel HD because it was cheaper when I brought my system.
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vicklemos: Do you play (play well) demanding games on medium setiings or classic ones fairly well?
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amrit9037: I don't play many demanding games.
I mostly play old games or a game my system can handle.
I play games on minimum settings. No water effect , no shadows and no too many details.
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vicklemos: I'm asking this since, sorry dedicated folks, for me that's the way it should be and that's how I see the whole gpu deal. Power saving, space saving, smaller devices, more powerful gpus (check intel Iris) and better performance over the years.

I don't need state of the art cars, houses, electronic devices and the god above knows I don't need to play games like a pro. So that's why I'm a happy Intel HD user and don't intend to change! :)

Cheers!

ps: yep I have other dedicated devices but I happilly support built-in gpus.
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amrit9037: I like dedicated graphics but at that time I was not able to afford it.
DAMN!
How fast and precise! I'm stunned.
I somehow share some experiences with you, amrit.

Well you didn't need to answer all the questions but I'm glad you did! :) Thanks a lot!
I like Intel HD graphics myself because they are well supported with open source drivers on Linux. NVIDIA needs proprietary drivers for good performance, and I am not willing to run proprietary software in kernel space. AMD, to my understanding, works OK if you have a card that is supported, but the drivers aren't as mature (particularly with the newest driver architecture only appearing on really new kernels at this point).

I have found that even Morrowind (the most graphically demanding game I've played that I remember) runs well, and that's even having to go through the WINE layer. (Except on the occasion the game locks up; it is a Bethesda game after all.)

Edit: The machine I'm using is a desktop that otherwise has good specs (Intel i5 4670, 16GB RAM).
Post edited October 02, 2015 by dtgreene
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vicklemos: Are you? ;P

Do you play your games on a modest laptop or on a hefty "all in one"?
Do you like space saving, smaller and discrete devices? That's why Intel HD graphics are so important, right?
Do you play (play well) demanding games on medium setiings or classic ones fairly well?

I'm asking this since, sorry dedicated folks, for me that's the way it should be and that's how I see the whole gpu deal. Power saving, space saving, smaller devices, more powerful gpus (check intel Iris) and better performance over the years.

I don't need state of the art cars, houses, electronic devices and the god above knows I don't need to play games like a pro. So that's why I'm a happy Intel HD user and don't intend to change! :)

Cheers!

ps: yep I have other dedicated devices but I happilly support built-in gpus.
Nope, I have always used Nvidia since early days. Never had any issues with them, quiet, relatively cheap if you don't go with the latest release, and tend be able to play most things around. The latest machine I got was a ViBox Sniper prebuilt. Got it off Amazon for just under £1k, and I haven't found anything yet to make it struggle (not bothering with Witcher until a GOTY, but Van Helsing runs perfectly).
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dtgreene: I like Intel HD graphics myself because they are well supported with open source drivers on Linux.
Wise words. Never had a single issue with hd graphics on linux. Nor or windows, to be fair.
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dtgreene: I have found that even Morrowind (the most graphically demanding game I've played that I remember) runs well, and that's even having to go through the WINE layer. (Except on the occasion the game locks up; it is a Bethesda game after all.)
Same here, too. Tested OpenMW and it ran smoothly :)
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vicklemos: Are you? ;P

Do you play your games on a modest laptop or on a hefty "all in one"?
Do you like space saving, smaller and discrete devices? That's why Intel HD graphics are so important, right?
Do you play (play well) demanding games on medium setiings or classic ones fairly well?

I'm asking this since, sorry dedicated folks, for me that's the way it should be and that's how I see the whole gpu deal. Power saving, space saving, smaller devices, more powerful gpus (check intel Iris) and better performance over the years.

I don't need state of the art cars, houses, electronic devices and the god above knows I don't need to play games like a pro. So that's why I'm a happy Intel HD user and don't intend to change! :)

Cheers!

ps: yep I have other dedicated devices but I happilly support built-in gpus.
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nightcraw1er.488: Nope, I have always used Nvidia since early days. Never had any issues with them, quiet, relatively cheap if you don't go with the latest release, and tend be able to play most things around. The latest machine I got was a ViBox Sniper prebuilt. Got it off Amazon for just under £1k, and I haven't found anything yet to make it struggle (not bothering with Witcher until a GOTY, but Van Helsing runs perfectly).
Loved the colors on this ViBox desktop, wild! Great price tag, too.
But I'm more into devices like these nowadays :)
Post edited October 02, 2015 by vicklemos
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vicklemos: DAMN!
How fast and precise! I'm stunned.
I somehow share some experiences with you, amrit.

Well you didn't need to answer all the questions but I'm glad you did! :) Thanks a lot!
I would have given a short answer but right now I am on my "Modest laptop" and not on my "modest mobile".
So I decided to pour some of my experience here.
:)
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vicklemos: DAMN!
How fast and precise! I'm stunned.
I somehow share some experiences with you, amrit.

Well you didn't need to answer all the questions but I'm glad you did! :) Thanks a lot!
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amrit9037: I would have given a short answer but right now I am on my "Modest laptop" and not on my "modest mobile".
So I decided to pour some of my experience here.
:)
Greatly appreciated! Thank y'all :)
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vicklemos: ...snip
Loved the colors on this ViBox desktop, wild! Great price tag, too.
But I'm more into devices like these nowadays :)
Wow, nice looking laptop there. Problem is if something goes wrong with a laptop its generally more hassle to replace. Those miniboxes look great as well, but for me my desktop has two dual bay HDD/SSD caddies in so I routinely backup to external HDDs, so need the extra space. Will have to look at one of those for the main telly though.
Were these questions for Intel HD graphics users only, or laptop gamers in general?
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vicklemos: 1. Do you play your games on a modest laptop or on a hefty "all in one"?
2. Do you like space saving, smaller and discrete devices? That's why Intel HD graphics are so important, right?
3. Do you play (play well) demanding games on medium setiings or classic ones fairly well?
1. Both. I play older and less demanding games mostly on a smaller laptop with Intel HD 4000 GPU, and more demanding ones on a bigger and badder gaming laptop. The reason for playing also on the smaller laptop is because it is more often with me nowadays (as it is my work laptop). Like when I went abroad for a month, I didn't take the bigger laptop with me at all this time, only the smaller/weaker one.

2. I mostly like the ability to move around my gaming devices, even inside my home. Sometimes in the living room, sometimes in the bedroom, sometimes at our summer cottage, sometimes abroad.

Note: I am not really expecting to be able to move the device around while I play, like tablets. I'm looking for portability more than mobility, ie. the ability to move the device and start using it there. I wouldn't fire up my laptop on e.g. a crowded bus, tablets and smartphones are for that.

I don't really care for power saving because I use the laptops only occasionally on battery power (mainly just my work laptop on some meetings), and never do any gaming on them with battery power. As a matter of fact, I usually have the battery removed altogether from my gaming laptop.

3. I like the Intel HD 4000 because surprisingly it has turned out to be pretty compatible with lots of older (GOG) games with the newest drivers, even ones where I have issues with Geforce. As for more demanding games, it doesn't really cut it. I think I tried it with e.g. The Witcher 2, and I could run it only with very low settings. On the gaming laptop with Geforce, I can run it pretty much at maximum (not with ubersampling, though).
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vicklemos: Are you? ;P

Do you play your games on a modest laptop or on a hefty "all in one"?
Do you like space saving, smaller and discrete devices? That's why Intel HD graphics are so important, right?
Do you play (play well) demanding games on medium setiings or classic ones fairly well?

I'm asking this since, sorry dedicated folks, for me that's the way it should be and that's how I see the whole gpu deal. Power saving, space saving, smaller devices, more powerful gpus (check intel Iris) and better performance over the years.

I don't need state of the art cars, houses, electronic devices and the god above knows I don't need to play games like a pro. So that's why I'm a happy Intel HD user and don't intend to change! :)

Cheers!

ps: yep I have other dedicated devices but I happilly support built-in gpus.
Well, all things considered, I game on a laptop (because I don't want a separate machine for gaming) and I want it to last as long as possible before changing it (usually at least 5 years).

When I get it, I don't cheap out though. I'm okay with forking 1500$-2000$ for a good durable laptop with good specs that will fulfill my needs well for some time.

Still, I guess that disqualifies me from the "hardcore" gaming crowd as they like to define themselves (get a desktop every 1-3 years... maybe even a bunch of consoles... to play state of the art FPSes).

It's overrated. We're sacking the environment big time with our silly wants. People should be cutting back on hardware.

Pay good money for quality every couple of years and then stretch it out for as long as you can. Don't duplicate hardware.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by Magnitus
I've got a laptop with an HD4600 / nvidia GTX765 hybrid setup running Linux. With Linux, I have to explicitly use the nvidia card if I want to, and I often forget to. I'm often amazed when games that I think shouldn't run very well on the HD do (Wasteland 2 and POE both run great on the HD).

I only have a few games that don't run fine on the HD4600 (Shadows of Mordor, Dirt Showdown come to mind as games that won't even run on the HD).

Long and short - yeah I'm generally satisfied with the HD. Of course, when I'm not satisfied, I've got the nvidia card.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by hummer010
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timppu: Were these questions for Intel HD graphics users only, or laptop gamers in general?
In general! The way I see, onboard gpus are so

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timppu: I like the Intel HD 4000 because surprisingly it has turned out to be pretty compatible with lots of older (GOG) games with the newest drivers, even ones where I have issues with Geforce.
No joke? See, that's why these gpus, although heavilly panned by (no bashing plz :P) "purists" are so remarkable.
And I do believe a glutton pc would fit your needs, my friend: in icy Suomi, the hotter, the better, right? Kiddin' :P
Thanks for contributing, pal.
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vicklemos: ...snip
Loved the colors on this ViBox desktop, wild! Great price tag, too.
But I'm more into devices like these nowadays :)
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nightcraw1er.488: Wow, nice looking laptop there.
That's the beauty of it: cramming stuff, saving space and having fairly nice quality at the same time.
Price, all things considered, is a plus, too. And availabitly, especially for non-US residents, is also another plus :)
Post edited October 02, 2015 by vicklemos
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Magnitus: When I get it, I don't cheap out though. I'm okay with forking 1500$-2000$ for a good durable laptop with good specs that will fulfill my needs well for some time.
Same here. Been doing that for at least 15 years. Zero regrets, and I'm a patient man who can easily wait for some more years to play TW3, for instance, at fullspeed and gorgeously, much like I did with, uh, Dropsy yesterday :P

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Magnitus: It's overrated. We're sacking the environment big time with our silly wants. People should be cutting back on hardware.
Pay good money for quality every couple of years and then stretch it out for as long as you can. Don't duplicate hardware.
Couldn't agree more!!

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Magnitus: Still, I guess that disqualifies me from the "hardcore" gaming crowd as they like to define themselves (get a desktop every 1-3 years... maybe even a bunch of consoles... to play state of the art FPSes).
I'm also a man of simple needs! :P
Sorry for the one liners, but I'm flabbergasted by such wisdom, no joke.
other than for space constraints I don't see why, if you're willing to spend that much on a computer, you don't just add in a discrete gpu. you would get a shit ton better performance.