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So, due to the lack of moderation, the need of people to speak up and how the Brexit thread went, I thought it would be useful to keep all the conversations related on the current terrorism wave in Europe in one place so they don't bother other users (as they can easily skip the thread) and the conversations are centralized.

Naturally, as it's a sensitive subject it will be hard to keep it civil but at least posts which go deeper than "kill them all" should be encouraged. Some general questions to bump some global issues: what has led to this situation? Do you think your governement is doing enough to prevent new acts? What would you do to remedy the situation in legal ways if you were a politician?

A general timeline since two years

7-8-9 January 2015 / Paris (France) / Charlie Hebdo and its aftermaths
Shootings and hostages situation
20 killed (3 terrorists included) and 22 wounded

26 June 2015 / Saint-Quentin-Fallavier (France)
Lone terrorist decapitated his boss and then tried to explode a factory.
1 killed and 2 wounded

21 August 2015 / France
Lone terrorist tried a shooting in the Thalys train between Brussels and Paris
3 wounded

13 November 2015 / Paris (France)
Shootings and bombings
130 killed (7 terrorists included) and 413 wounded

22 March 2016 / Brussels (Belgium)
Bombings
32 killed (3 terrorists included) and 340 wounded
One of the dead victim was a close friend of my cousin :(

13 June 2016 / Magnanville (France)
Lone terrorist killed a couple of cops with knife, keep their children hostage and got killed by police
3 killed (1 terrorist included)

14 July 2016 / Nice (France)
Lone terrorist drove a truck among the crowd
84 killed (1 terrorist included) and 286 wounded

17 July 2016 / Wurzburg (Germany)
Lone terrorist attacked people in a train with an axe
1 terrorist killed and 5 wounded

25 July 2016 / Ansbach (Germany)
Lone terrorist did a suicide bombing in a restaurant
1 terrorist killed and 15 wounded

26 July 2016 / Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray (France)
Hostages situation in a church
3 killed (2 terrorists included) and 1 wounded

6 August 2016 / Charleroi (Belgium)
Lone terrorist attacked a police checkpoint next to the police station
1 terrorist killed and 2 wounded

19 December 2016 / Berlin (Germany)
Lone terrorist drove a truck into a Christmas market
12 killed and 50 wounded

I hope I won't have to update this list too often....
Post edited December 20, 2016 by catpower1980
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catpower1980: so they don't bother other users (as they can easily skip the thread) and the conversations are centralized.
To be fair, this goes for the other threads as well. If it's bothering people it's because they're letting it bother themselves.
Back in the good old days this is what France did to religious extremists:
http://modernnotion.com/e50-responsive/8953/750/480.jpg
Post edited July 26, 2016 by Crosmando
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catpower1980: I hope I won't have to update this list too often....
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
How do you best fight an ideology, an idea !? It has no physical form apart from those it possesses.
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catpower1980: France is burning
FTFY
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Ricky_Bobby: How do you best fight an ideology, an idea !? It has no physical form apart from those it possesses.
If the ideology is based on falsehood, use truth then.

If it is grounded in truth, you cannot win, unless you pretend you are for the ideology but spew half truth, half falsehood, and get everyone eyeballs on the falsehood to discredit the ideology.

Just like Crosmando does above.
Post edited July 26, 2016 by Gnostic
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Crosmando: Back in the good old days this is what France did to religious extremists:
http://modernnotion.com/e50-responsive/8953/750/480.jpg
Good Old Executions
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Gnostic: Just like Crosmando does above.
But Muslims WANT to die, they have an inherit fatalism and think martyrdom is something to be aspired to because they go to heaven. They are literally blowing themselves up or going on suicide missions we're police will kill them, so they can go to Allah. We'd only be giving them what they want, plus the 72 virgins. What do they have to be afraid of? :)
Post edited July 26, 2016 by Crosmando
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catpower1980: Some general questions to bump some global issues: what has led to this situation? Do you think your governement is doing enough to prevent new acts? What would you do to remedy the situation in legal ways if you were a politician?
White knights and pacifists. Not at all. Change the legislation so that what I would do would be legal.
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catpower1980: I hope I won't have to update this list too often....
Could you also put the countries where things happened next to the cities, please? Like "Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, France." It would make it much easier to know where to locate them.

Thanks for the globalised thread!
Problem is, and honestly i am sad and angry about it, this list is going to be updated regularly from now on. For me though, it is inconceivable, that *certain* people, not only DEFEND the cannibalistic, barbarian filth, but even ATTACK those who bring them the news, trying to WARN them, PROTECT them, etc. Their stupidity of "political correctness" is not only self-destructive (shooter in Orlando for example, had been a muslim extremist, his father was aired in public appearing with a smile and talking about being PROUD of his son), but it is going to DOOM US ALL!

Some of us DON'T WANT "people" like those among us; we are not racist, we studied their religion and ideology (commandments of Islam, Haddiths, Taqqiyah) and we can perfectly foresee the impact their "accommodation" is going to have, in our home and culture, on the long run. Also, even in the rare case that they are not potential to-become-later-killers, active loonies or dangerous at all (i have to admit there are peaceful muslims out there who actually manage to incorporate almost flawlessly in the place they are accomodated), they still treat locals like shit and don't MUTUALLY RESPECT their culture and manners. For example, recently in Sweden, a muslim employee was fired, because he didn't shook hands with other women coworkers and customers (probably he was in a post which needed good manners and public relations) and when they fired him, he even got angry and sued the company, despite him considering all women inferior and not "extending his hand on dirtier beings".

http://www.thelocal.se/20160722/muslim-man-sues-over-handshake
https://www.rt.com/viral/352863-sweden-muslim-handshake-lawsuit/
http://true-news.info/in-sweden-a-muslim-was-fired-for-refusing-to-shake-hands-with-women/

They barge in not as needy poor sobs, but march forcefully as conquerors! Have you watched live footage from closed borders, with anarchists and left wing scum leading them to attack national security workers (like soldiers, policemen and citizens like the honorable, dependable Bulgarian ones)? Those people respect nothing; they themselves BURN their COSTLY lodgings (europe pays millions for refugee accomodation and needs), have chaotic knife fights among different groups of them (there are even dead men), they kill or rape children while non-governmental-organizations do their best to cover up EVERYTHING and they keep fighting among themselves, bringing their differences even here (muslims mug yazidis in refugee camps and so on). Hell they try to escape war and poverty; they ruined their countries, now run here and soon, they are going to make our own place, the exact same mess as theirs (i really wish not)...

You even talk about their crimes, THEIR CRIMES and BRUTALITY god damn it, and YOU ARE A "RACIST"! THEY KILL INNOCENTS BY THE DAY, you call out responsibility and YOU CAN EVEN BE ARRESTED on that mighty stupid newfound "laws" on "hatred" and "discrimination"! This is a nightmare; someone, do something! Even the right wing sits in the margin defenseless; should they "answer" to the events, they are going to be arrested! Just where the hell are we trapped into, right now, exactly?
Post edited July 26, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
Nobody defends this. People simply - unlike you - remember, what happened when nations gave in to mass hysteria (hint: holocaust and World War 2), and do not want a comeback. Anyone telling you that a simple solution exists is lying to you.

Also, the terrorist (though they were called "separatist" at that time) attacks used to be much worse in the 1970s. Yet, somehow, we are still around.
Bradley would be put on a watch list in America....
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Problem is, and honestly i am sad and angry about it, this list is going to be updated regularly from now on. For me though, it is inconceivable, that *certain* people, not only DEFEND the cannibalistic, barbarian filth, but even ATTACK those who bring them the news, trying to WARN them, PROTECT them, etc. ...
The really interesting question is, who still believes that our governments did not know the most likely outcome of their policy? The question is, why would the leading EU states adopt such a policy, even violate EU law, knowing that there will be bloodshed and violence, that people will die. I have some guesses but I am walking still in the dark, asking myself often, what is the goal/are the goals here.
Post edited July 26, 2016 by MaGo72
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MaGo72:
Maybe the world leaders need to renew the economy and are pitting one group of people against the next to trigger a great culling of the population then they can say "see you wanted this and we had no choice". BOOM! Population goes down and we rebuild and no nation is labeled a nazi.......