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idbeholdME: The more of these wake-up calls there are, the better.
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darthspudius: The smaller number of games we all have to play, the better!!!!!

This thread is a right little circle jerk isn't it. A bit sad to see the game go this way, it's pretty good for what it is. Shame to see such nasty attitudes in here though. Not like I'm surprised. Lets all worship GOG and see who cums first!
So voicing our opinion about this toxic shitfest of a gaming industry with Valve and their bots defending it is circle jerking? I feel bad for you but i guess you need to have your daily fix of talking thrash on the GOG forums. Keep up the good work. Cheers
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idbeholdME: Sad to see it go from official channels due to dated DRM? Definitely. Does it mean the game is lost for good? Absolutely not. Thankfully, there are always torrents for cases like this.

But this at least shows to the masses the core of the problem that is DRM. Without such practical examples, there would be no way to prove how much does it actually suck.

Nobody who got hit by this should have any hard feelings about just torrenting the game if they bought it before. It would be the first thing I'd do if something like this happened for a game I have on Steam or any other DRM platform for that matter.

I have games on Steam, Origin and also free games from Epic, not just GOG. I am not a die-hard GOG only fanatic. But they are the only one who never gave me a reason to torrent a game I've already bought once, which can't be said about the others.
DRM is there to stop day1 piracy - that is to say people who really want the game but use a Torrent site rather than buying the game. DRM stops these people because it usually takes a few weeks to crack the DRM on a new game. That doesn't mean we have to like DRM but if a company invest a 100 million dollars into a new game then they want to recoup that investment and if too many people pirate rather than buy then that will not happen. Not all pirated copies are lost sales of course but some are. Companies that use DRM wants to stop piracy and appease their shareholders..

Most sales for a new game comes within the first month so if DRM stops piracy within that month then it serves its purpose. Like StingingVelvet said: it should be standard practice or mandatory for companies to patch out DRM like Securom after a few months.

I hate DRM as much as the next gamer and I love GOG but I can still see why companies use DRM from day1. The scummy part happens when they don't fix it later down the line and the product you paid for now doesn't work. That needs to stop.
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darthspudius: The smaller number of games we all have to play, the better!!!!!

This thread is a right little circle jerk isn't it. A bit sad to see the game go this way, it's pretty good for what it is. Shame to see such nasty attitudes in here though. Not like I'm surprised. Lets all worship GOG and see who cums first!
It is true that the more people lose access to things they paid for the more they'll care about DRM. A big reason no one worries about Steam DRM is because they don't see Steam ever going anywhere (right or wrong). If people start losing access, they'll start complaining. The more that happens, the more companies will care.

Also since I'm sure this will be fixed to protect "the system," and it will cost money for an old title that probably never made Disney anything to begin with, I think the more THAT happens the more likely companies will not use certain types of DRM, or will put it in the contract to remove it at some point, both of which would be nice improvements.
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jepsen1977:
True. I lack this point of view because I buy games on release date or closely after extremely rarely.
AAAaaaarrrggghhh! SHIVER ME TIMBERS! Weigh anchor and hoist the mizzen. . . Avast ye, hard to torrent!
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lolinc: AAAaaaarrrggghhh! SHIVER ME TIMBERS! Weigh anchor and hoist the mizzen. . . Avast ye, hard to torrent!
Yorkshire farmer ?.
dnt care about steam users there part of the problem, steam is a rental service, you dnt own the games on there even if you can play them cos guess what if you uninstall steam you cant play any of your games, its like privacy,DRM have been thrown out the window, like people think privacy and drm free games shouldnt be a thing, well im quite the opposite.

people throw there personal info around like cash at a shop i know this has nothing to do with it but imagine being a girl twitch streamer who has twitter, facebook, and post sexually sugesstive content on there instagrams i dnt watch twitch but this info can easily be gathered and thats why u hear about popular streamers getting stalked in the news, PRIVACY MATTERS.

back on topic, i do think its a bad idea for gog to turn devs away its money in the bag, there are plenty of old games from well known devs that ive yet to see come here like KOEI with the old dynasty warriors games, we have old EA games here why not other devs, and holy cow the sports section o nthis site is poor i do understand that might be due to lisencens etc but still they could contact konami and get old PES games which had fake players for quite along time before they could afford lisences.
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lolinc: AAAaaaarrrggghhh! SHIVER ME TIMBERS! Weigh anchor and hoist the mizzen. . . Avast ye, hard to torrent!
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Trooper1270: Yorkshire farmer ?.
James Cook was a Yorkshireman. I think you meant Cornish "farmer" … :-"
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darthspudius: The smaller number of games we all have to play, the better!!!!!

This thread is a right little circle jerk isn't it. A bit sad to see the game go this way, it's pretty good for what it is. Shame to see such nasty attitudes in here though. Not like I'm surprised. Lets all worship GOG and see who cums first!
I can fully understand why you are so grumpy. Being wrong is never fun.

After all, DRM doesn't matter, right? ;^P
Post edited December 05, 2019 by timppu
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My three fucks: Fuck DRM, fuck the cloud, fuck streaming.
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jepsen1977: DRM is there to stop day1 piracy - that is to say people who really want the game but use a Torrent site rather than buying the game. DRM stops these people because it usually takes a few weeks to crack the DRM on a new game. That doesn't mean we have to like DRM but if a company invest a 100 million dollars into a new game then they want to recoup that investment and if too many people pirate rather than buy then that will not happen. Not all pirated copies are lost sales of course but some are. Companies that use DRM wants to stop piracy and appease their shareholders..
At some point it worked that way, but I don't think it's the case anymore. Remember last year when Kingdom Come: Deliverance delayed its DRM-free release on GOG (allegedly to minimize piracy)? The Steam version was cracked in less than 24 hours. And that's the case with many other games. I think if someone wants to pirate, they will pirate anyway (especially with the time for a crack to appear becoming shorter and shorter nowadays).

What companies and their shareholders need to understand is that, with DRM, they are selling an inferior product to paying customers than what the pirates get.
This is just the start.
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idbeholdME: The more of these wake-up calls there are, the better.
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darthspudius: The smaller number of games we all have to play, the better!!!!!

This thread is a right little circle jerk isn't it. A bit sad to see the game go this way, it's pretty good for what it is. Shame to see such nasty attitudes in here though. Not like I'm surprised. Lets all worship GOG and see who cums first!
Why you mad, steambro? lol
Topic title probably should've been "DRM even FCKs Tron". =P
Well, if DRM can beat Big Brother it can beat anyone.