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General discussionDELISTING: GTTOD: Get To The Orange Door(163 posts)(163 posts)
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Posted February 16, 2023
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foad01: I disagree. ΔV: Rings of Saturn is also a small dev and they don't have a problem to regularly update the game.
Ah, the joy of people taking irony literally :)

I thought the first sentence would have made it clear. But of course you didn't quote that one.
Posted February 16, 2023
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foad01: I disagree. ΔV: Rings of Saturn is also a small dev and they don't have a problem to regularly update the game.
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neumi5694: Ah, the joy of people taking irony literally :)

I thought the first sentence would have made it clear. But of course you didn't quote that one.
LOL @ myself. I see it now. I'll edit it.
Posted February 16, 2023
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Winkeyy: What in the world are you talking about
NOBODY wants to go on a random ass sketchy site to download an unknown file to then extract it to the game files and pray for it to work
Steam Workshop is a button click. The platform is the most popular game library in the whole green Earth. There is absolutely zero reason for you to be so much against it.
What bridge did you crawl out from under?

Sorry, but I'm with mqstout here. Steam Workshop is absolutely a vendor lock-in scheme. When modders only bother uploading their mods to Steam (as they frequently do) they effectively make the mods Steam exclusive.
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my name is catte: It would be interesting to see if he's willing to release the game on another DRM-free store that doesn't give him dev-side problems. A lot of people who are on GOG for the DRM-free games aren't GOG-only, they're DRM-free-only.
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XanMan11: For what it's worth the game doesn't have DRM on Steam and I'm all but certain that's never gonna change.
Sorry, but if you need to use a client to install it then for a lot of people it isn't fully DRM-free. If he sold it somewhere you could just download the files with your browser or download manager then it would fit the bill. The good news is, if the steam integration is as light as he claims then he could just zip up every new build and stick it on another DRM-free store that he doesn't have trouble uploading to.
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Berzerk2k2: Well I guess I'll ask GOG for a refund then... 15 months after buying this. First time I have to refund something here. I hope they'll accept it considering the situation with the game being incomplete and being soon delisted.
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Winkeyy: If youd like to, the developer will give you a steam key for the game if you show proof of gog purchase to him
Quite a pro-steam agenda you have there. Bit strange that you've just popped up out of nowhere.
Post edited February 16, 2023 by my name is catte
Posted February 16, 2023
"Some Early Access game gets delisted."
"4 replies. Oh well..."
"Be back some hours later. 33 replies."
"What the hell happened here?"
"Reads post 7."
https://media.tenor.com/3x2GLBVdLqcAAAAC/popcorn-snl.gif
Posted February 16, 2023
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XanMan11: For what it's worth the game doesn't have DRM on Steam and I'm all but certain that's never gonna change.
There is no such thing as a "DRM-free Steam game".
Posted February 16, 2023
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my name is catte: Quite a pro-steam agenda you have there. Bit strange that you've just popped up out of nowhere.
I don't have a pro-steam agenda but when I payed money for a game I want to have the full version of that game in the end and when getting that via a Steam key is the only available option then I pull it. Also I've not been popping up out of nowhere. I'm a GOG customer since almost 10 years now.

Maybe we'll see this game return once it has reached 1.0 so people who bought it here get a content complete game but for the moment I don't have high hope that this will happen. Keeping an incomplete game in my library is not something I want so I'll ask GOG to remove it. If the game ever comes back I'll rebuy it.
Posted February 16, 2023
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I want offline installers, not Steam's mess.
Posted February 17, 2023
A pity! I want offline installers too, but I can understand the developer's arguments too.
However, I will probably not play the game then.
Posted February 17, 2023
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my name is catte: Quite a pro-steam agenda you have there. Bit strange that you've just popped up out of nowhere.
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Berzerk2k2: I don't have a pro-steam agenda but when I payed money for a game I want to have the full version of that game in the end and when getting that via a Steam key is the only available option then I pull it. Also I've not been popping up out of nowhere. I'm a GOG customer since almost 10 years now.

Maybe we'll see this game return once it has reached 1.0 so people who bought it here get a content complete game but for the moment I don't have high hope that this will happen. Keeping an incomplete game in my library is not something I want so I'll ask GOG to remove it. If the game ever comes back I'll rebuy it.
I was talking to Winkeyy...
Posted February 17, 2023
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XanMan11: For what it's worth the game doesn't have DRM on Steam and I'm all but certain that's never gonna change.
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vv221: There is no such thing as a "DRM-free Steam game".
When the dev himself says that the game is DRM free, than it is. Hes not trying to play some game of 5D chess here, what purpose does he have to trick people??

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my name is catte: Sorry, but I'm with mqstout here. Steam Workshop is absolutely a vendor lock-in scheme. When modders only bother uploading their mods to Steam (as they frequently do) they effectively make the mods Steam exclusive.
Im sorry but this just literally is not true lol
Post edited February 17, 2023 by Skrioftw
Posted February 17, 2023
Out of nowhere four users are targeting this thread to either defend the dev or Steam. What is going on here? LOL.
Posted February 17, 2023
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vv221: There is no such thing as a "DRM-free Steam game".
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Skrioftw: When the dev himself says that the game is DRM free, than it is. Hes not trying to play some game of 5D chess here, what purpose does he have to trick people??
So I assume it can be downloaded, installed and played without any client, getting a standalone installer through either the browser you use to access any other site or even a custom program that just supplies your login?
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foad01: Out of nowhere four users are targeting this thread to either defend the dev or Steam. What is going on here? LOL.
Considering the reasons given, it understandably became a discussion about Steam and DRM, no longer about the game itself.
Post edited February 17, 2023 by Cavalary
Posted February 17, 2023
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Cavalary: Considering the reasons given, it understandably became a discussion about Steam and DRM, no longer about the game itself.
Maybe, but I think the posts by Son_Ovagun, XanMan11, Winkeyy and Skrioftw are somehow sus.
Posted February 17, 2023
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Son_Ovagun:
GOG does have some basic developer documentation and if you look under "Developer Portal" or "Pipeline Builder" the download really isn't "like a game" at all. And the pipeline builder is a separate executable to push builds. While I can almost imagine GOG somehow neglecting to send a link to their documentation, considering all of the developer's posts it seems much more likely the developer is generally overwhelmed, got bad reviews and few sales on GOG, decided to remove support for GOG, and instead of taking full responsibility for that decision is trying to incoherently blame GOG. I can at least agree that delisting is much better than keeping the game for sale while never updating it.

Hopefully GOG will do the right thing and refund everyone (and be more selective in the future). If anyone who has had it more than 30 days asks for a refund please let us know how it goes.
Posted February 17, 2023
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Skrioftw: When the dev himself says that the game is DRM free, than it is. Hes not trying to play some game of 5D chess here, what purpose does he have to trick people??
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Cavalary: So I assume it can be downloaded, installed and played without any client, getting a standalone installer through either the browser you use to access any other site or even a custom program that just supplies your login?
You do not need an internet connection to play Orange Door on steam. DRM sucks but this game doesn't have it so there is no worry.
Your computer is not going to explode if you install steam, and you can get a key from the dev if you purchased a copy of it on here. Its free access to the most up to date build of the game and the discussion posts on steam and discord help clear the air about the current state of the game!

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Cavalary: Considering the reasons given, it understandably became a discussion about Steam and DRM, no longer about the game itself.
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foad01: Maybe, but I think the posts by Son_Ovagun, XanMan11, Winkeyy and Skrioftw are somehow sus.
I just came over from the Discord server to try and help fan the flames a little, point people in the right direction and offer explanations as to why the game was delisted is all!
Post edited February 17, 2023 by Skrioftw
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