Posted July 13, 2015
bolokanar
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Posted July 13, 2015
Also, American Conquest + Fight Back has a DRM too. It needs a multiplayer key :/
Kristian
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From Faroe Islands
Posted July 13, 2015
GOG has accepted MP keys since forever. That is something that is well known. The problems arise with SP.
Ganni1987
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From Malta
Posted July 13, 2015
I wouldn't call a MP Key as DRM, it's actually a good thing they exist as they prevent piracy and I'm perfectly fine with that. Requiring for Singleplayer though is a different story. there's really no point to that.
Martek
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Posted July 13, 2015
An update on my refund request: COMPLETED / CASE CLOSED
To summarize, they couldn't refund my credit card directly as my purchase was over a year old (their "system" doesn't allow it). On July 2nd or 3rd'ish, they sent me an email with the following:
Hello
Of course requested refund in this situation is accepted. However unfortunately there are some problems with it. Because your order was made 2 years ago we cannot process refund as a standard procedure since our system allows it only for the orders not older then a year. In this situation I can propose you one of the following options:
- We will refund your payment with a store credit you could use to purchase games in our store (amount 1.99 USD)
- I will exchange your game for a different title available in our store at the initial price of your game (9.99 USD)
- And of course we can return your payment as a standard money transfer to your bank account, however it might took up to 2 weeks.
Please let me know which of the proposals you'd prefer most.
After the USA July 4th Holiday passed, there was about that it might now be FIXED. But to date, a [url=http://www.gog.com/forum/general/defcons_drm_is_still_active_support_doesnt_give_a_crap/post353]"blue" hasn't yet replied in the affirmative. , [url=http://www.gog.com/forum/general/defcons_drm_is_still_active_support_doesnt_give_a_crap/post389]Introversion says that the DRM will be staying (for whatever reason).
So I thought about it and emailed GOG, asking for the "exchange" option - choosing the current on-sale for $9.98 Tropico 4 + DLC's as my exchange game.
This morning I received a gift code for that - and I just redeemed it successfully (and Tropico 4 + DLC's is now in my library.
I would have patiently waited longer for the FIXED version, but 1) It didn't look like that was forthcoming, and 2) As I noted before, I've had enough SOON™. Add those together and not waiting seemed the best choice.
Hopefully, Introversion will indeed FIX this and then in the future I may again choose to purchase the game.
I'd like to thank GOG for stepping up and making this situation right by me :)
To summarize, they couldn't refund my credit card directly as my purchase was over a year old (their "system" doesn't allow it). On July 2nd or 3rd'ish, they sent me an email with the following:
Hello
Of course requested refund in this situation is accepted. However unfortunately there are some problems with it. Because your order was made 2 years ago we cannot process refund as a standard procedure since our system allows it only for the orders not older then a year. In this situation I can propose you one of the following options:
- We will refund your payment with a store credit you could use to purchase games in our store (amount 1.99 USD)
- I will exchange your game for a different title available in our store at the initial price of your game (9.99 USD)
- And of course we can return your payment as a standard money transfer to your bank account, however it might took up to 2 weeks.
Please let me know which of the proposals you'd prefer most.
So I thought about it and emailed GOG, asking for the "exchange" option - choosing the current on-sale for $9.98 Tropico 4 + DLC's as my exchange game.
This morning I received a gift code for that - and I just redeemed it successfully (and Tropico 4 + DLC's is now in my library.
I would have patiently waited longer for the FIXED version, but 1) It didn't look like that was forthcoming, and 2) As I noted before, I've had enough SOON™. Add those together and not waiting seemed the best choice.
Hopefully, Introversion will indeed FIX this and then in the future I may again choose to purchase the game.
I'd like to thank GOG for stepping up and making this situation right by me :)
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From France
Posted July 13, 2015
Oh okay, sorry, it was the first game I saw with a mp key on GOG ^^
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From United Kingdom
Posted July 13, 2015
Unfortunately they've still not replied to my support ticket and I sent it on the 26th of June...
I don't object to you taking issue with it if you're unhappy with multiplayer keys, but this thread is about DEFCON not even working in single player because of active DRM so it's definitely a different issue.
I don't object to you taking issue with it if you're unhappy with multiplayer keys, but this thread is about DEFCON not even working in single player because of active DRM so it's definitely a different issue.
Post edited July 13, 2015 by SirPrimalform
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From Finland
Posted July 13, 2015
The best defense for a game requiring a MP key is that it works as an unique identifier which allows the private servers to ban cheaters. As long as the game doesn't phone home to a centralized server and need it's validation, a MP key is just copy protection, not DRM.
Martek
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From United States
Posted July 13, 2015
Ganni1987: I wouldn't call a MP Key as DRM, it's actually a good thing they exist as they prevent piracy and I'm perfectly fine with that. Requiring for Singleplayer though is a different story. there's really no point to that.
JAAHAS: The best defense for a game requiring a MP key is that it works as an unique identifier which allows the private servers to ban cheaters. As long as the game doesn't phone home to a centralized server and need it's validation, a MP key is just copy protection, not DRM. COPY PROTECTION == DRM
They're one and the same, to me..
Martek
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Posted July 13, 2015
SirPrimalform: Unfortunately they've still not replied to my support ticket and I sent it on the 26th of June...
Well rats. With their oft-noted apparent "if you even breath another word about this ticket we'll move it to the bottom of the queue" system, I'd be hesitant to ask about it; and TBH was hoping this would not happen to me although I thought it was possible.
Hope they get you covered soon (not SOON™)..
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Posted July 13, 2015
Martek: Well rats.
With their oft-noted apparent "if you even breath another word about this ticket we'll move it to the bottom of the queue" system, I'd be hesitant to ask about it; and TBH was hoping this would not happen to me although I thought it was possible.
Hope they get you covered soon (not SOON™)..
Exactly, yeah. I've not followed up on it because apparently it bumps you down the queue. I'm beginning to wonder if someone read it and disregarded it though.With their oft-noted apparent "if you even breath another word about this ticket we'll move it to the bottom of the queue" system, I'd be hesitant to ask about it; and TBH was hoping this would not happen to me although I thought it was possible.
Hope they get you covered soon (not SOON™)..
Gede
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From Portugal
Posted July 16, 2015
Still, no further development.
I am wondering if there is still some movement going on behind the scenes, or people are hoping this situation will die quietly.
No Linux version update on the change log, no GOG confirmation that the issue is now fixed... I guess I'll have to ask for my refund and admit defeat.
I am wondering if there is still some movement going on behind the scenes, or people are hoping this situation will die quietly.
No Linux version update on the change log, no GOG confirmation that the issue is now fixed... I guess I'll have to ask for my refund and admit defeat.