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As some of you may remember, I posted a thread a while back, where I asked for some information regarding Steam and how it handles retail/disc copies of games, among other things.

Well, I received my copy of Dark Souls 3 today and wanted to share a little info myself, based on my experience with Steam so far, since it might help people who are interested in the game, or other AAA releases not available here at GOG.

First things first: I was able to install the game almost entirely from the discs. If you're on a slow or limited internet connection, that's about 20 GB worth of data you don't have to download -- praise the sun! In fact, I think even the Steam client was mostly included on the disc(s). It only downloaded some small updates, and about 200MB of additional data/patches for the game itself.

Now the bad part: Steam was kind of a bitch throughout the process. I went offline during the main portion of the installation, since all the data was being pulled from the discs, but for some reason it requires you to be online whenever you swap the installation disc... ? In any case, the installation process got screwed up, and then wouldn't let me resume installation from disc, and instead Steam attempted to download the whole thing. Yeah... no. It eventually worked, after uninstalling and restarting the game installation, this time with permanent web connection. Aside from that little hiccup, the rest of the installation, account creation etc. was a little tedious but went smoothly enough. TL;DR: Best make sure you're online throughout the entire installation process, or at least go back online before you insert the next installation disc. That should hopefully save you some trouble and wasted time.

I guess my overall opinion of Steam hasn't changed. It's all nice and well as an online game distributor and gaming platform, as long as you know what to expect of it. But Steam as a mandatory requirement tied to retail game copies needs to die a slow, fiery death. Or maybe a quick one... As long as there's plenty of fire. Oh, also potentially relevant: "Offline mode" seems to work so far. Once I was done with the whole installation mess ( and deactivated any annoying features of the client ), Steam didn't really bother me about anything, and I was able to launch and play DS3 while offline.

As for Dark Souls 3 itself, I'd say it delivers everything a fan of the series would expect. Judging by my first few hours in the game, it seems like a blend of all the previous games ( including a bit of Demon's Souls and Bloodborne ). On a pure technical level, it's not really on par with games such as Witcher 3, but it runs smoothly, and the art direction and designs are amazing, as expected.

Initial annoyances with Steam and the installation process aside, I'm happy to be able to play the game now. ( As I mentioned in the other thread, it only happens about once or twice a year that a AAA game release actually has me this excited. ) Thanks again, to everyone who helped me out!

P.S.: I lied, there's no cheese in this thread. Yet. But feel free to share some pictures of your local cheese fetishist gathering. It's cool, I won't judge. ♥
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CharlesGrey: P.S.: I lied, there's no cheese in this thread.
Great, thats one pissed of foxworks that will be lurking and humping a rug in frustration here later.
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CharlesGrey: P.S.: I lied, there's no cheese in this thread.
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Sachys: Great, thats one pissed of foxworks that will be lurking and humping a rug in frustration here later.
Sorry, no humping permitted in this thread.*



( * Unless there's cheese involved. )
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Sachys: Great, thats one pissed of foxworks that will be lurking and humping a rug in frustration here later.
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CharlesGrey: Sorry, no humping permitted in this thread.*

( * Unless there's cheese involved. )
what else did you expect?! o____O
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Sachys: Great, thats one pissed of foxworks that will be lurking and humping a rug in frustration here later.
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CharlesGrey: Sorry, no humping permitted in this thread.*

( * Unless there's cheese involved. )
Not even this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbGTBX5favE
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CharlesGrey: - Steam as a mandatory requirement tied to retail game copies needs to die a slow, fiery death.

- it only happens about once or twice a year that a AAA game release actually has me this excited.
Indeed!
Nice write-up Charles. Can't say I'm surprised seems like the usual Steam behaviour when installing games. The DRM is there for a reason afterall. I've played the first game on 360 using my own disc but I think I'll eagerly away the day it's DRM free... plenty to play in the meantime!
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CharlesGrey: Sorry, no humping permitted in this thread.*

( * Unless there's cheese involved. )
I'm pretty sure that's why there are holes in some kinds of cheese. Pretty sure.
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Coodu: Nice write-up Charles. Can't say I'm surprised seems like the usual Steam behaviour when installing games. The DRM is there for a reason afterall. I've played the first game on 360 using my own disc but I think I'll eagerly away the day it's DRM free... plenty to play in the meantime!
If the game isn't ( currently ) a high priority to you, then it's probably wise to wait. Even without a DRM-free release, I'm sure they'll once again develop various content add-ons, and then release a "Complete" or GotY edition somewhere down the line. Myself, I already had to skip on Bloodborne, due to its PS4 exclusivity, and really didn't want to miss out this time around. It's one of my favorite series, and Dark Souls 3 ( along with Stardew Valley ) is very likely to turn out as my own personal "Game of the Year" of 2016.

Steam can be annoying, like any client software ( including Galaxy ), but it's tolerable once you tell it to "shut up" by deactivating most of its notifications and automation.
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CharlesGrey: Sorry, no humping permitted in this thread.*

( * Unless there's cheese involved. )
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HunchBluntley: I'm pretty sure that's why there are holes in some kinds of cheese. Pretty sure.
It's the age-old secret of the cheese makers.
Post edited April 13, 2016 by CharlesGrey
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CharlesGrey: On a pure technical level, it's not really on par with games such as Witcher 3, but it runs smoothly, and the art direction and designs are amazing, as expected.
Does it run better than Witcher 3 or not?
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CharlesGrey: But Steam as a mandatory requirement tied to retail game copies needs to die a slow, fiery death. Or maybe a quick one... As long as there's plenty of fire.
I'm pretty sure that will happen... but not in a way that you probably hoped for. Steam will stop being a mandatory requirement to PC retail games simply because the PC retail (physical) games will become a thing of a past.

Console retail games will probably exist longer.
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CharlesGrey: I lied, there's no cheese in this thread
:(
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CharlesGrey: I lied, there's no cheese in this thread
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amok: :(
But there is dress humping in my last post.
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CharlesGrey: On a pure technical level, it's not really on par with games such as Witcher 3, but it runs smoothly, and the art direction and designs are amazing, as expected.
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Grargar: Does it run better than Witcher 3 or not?
Depends on your definition of "better". I have a fairly average gaming PC ( GTX 960, core i5, 8GB RAM ); no crashes so far after a few hours of playing, and the framerate seems to be in the 50 to 60 range, at High/Max settings. But as I mentioned in the first post, the overall visuals and complexity aren't quite on par with Witcher 3, so that's probably the main reason why it runs more smoothly.
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Grargar: Does it run better than Witcher 3 or not?
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CharlesGrey: Depends on your definition of "better". I have a fairly average gaming PC ( GTX 960, core i5, 8GB RAM ); no crashes so far after a few hours of playing, and the framerate seems to be in the 50 to 60 range, at High/Max settings. But as I mentioned in the first post, the overall visuals and complexity aren't quite on par with Witcher 3, so that's probably the main reason why it runs more smoothly.
When you look at the steam forum you can see many ppl with crashes etc. (something about Lighting). Guess you are lucky one. :)