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Posted December 18, 2020
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David9855: As for the pulled game, steam did it, gog did it, get over it I don't know the full story but controversial games get pulled all the time for all sorts of reasons.
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dycaite: Steam didn't remove the game, the devs did. Very different situation than GOG taking it down hours after announcing it
Why hasn't it come up back on Steam?
Posted December 18, 2020
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dycaite: Steam didn't remove the game, the devs did. Very different situation than GOG taking it down hours after announcing it
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Starmaker: Why hasn't it come up back on Steam?
I'm not sure to be perfectly honest, I found that a little odd myself
Posted December 18, 2020
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GreywolfLord: Maybe I'm an optimist, but I don't think it's a fear of being Banned in China. I think Cyberpunk didn't go as smoothly as it could have, and right now they need to be able to do business on the internet.

The ramifications of releasing the game could have Chinese Hackers up the wazoo for GOG...and cyber attacks, DDOS, and the rest is not something they really can deal with right now on top of everything else they are trying to handle.

I think GOG may release it next year sometime, AFTER things are more settled down and they don't have multiple bonfires burning at the same time.
It isn't a good sign when the nudity of Cyberpunk was patched out around the same time. I doubt it was the ESRB telling them to take it out. If it WAS the ESRB, why wouldn't they state that's the reason? Throwing the ESRB under the bus wouldn't hurt them at all, in fact it would make them look like the victim. Throwing China under the bus WOULD hurt their profits in the Chinese market. That is why I speculate it is the CCP doing this. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that gog was bought by some subsidiary of Tencent. I read that might already be the case.
Posted December 18, 2020
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Lethargus: Anyone who knows alternatives for GOG? Preferably DRM free.
Nope GOG couldn't make it work without having sufficient weight to lean on the industry to develop titles that don't need external servers; not going to get anouther player in the failing niche.
Posted December 18, 2020
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dycaite: Steam didn't remove the game, the devs did. Very different situation than GOG taking it down hours after announcing it
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Starmaker: Why hasn't it come up back on Steam?
Because Valve has better optics than GoG does.... they made it seem like the developer pulled the game instead of them delisting it because the CCP demanded it. GoG doesn't have a multi-million dollar PR department to keep the company image clean and squeaky.

I still don't grasp why people are willing to buy the cover story Valve dished out (after all, if Valve really was a good guy, they'd publish it without a publisher like they do for all the indie games there) but not GoG's "Many gamers" cover story. They're both equally improbable.
Posted December 18, 2020
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Starmaker: Why hasn't it come up back on Steam?
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IAmBored2: I still don't grasp why people are willing to buy the cover story Valve dished out (after all, if Valve really was a good guy, they'd publish it without a publisher like they do for all the indie games there) but not GoG's "Many gamers" cover story. They're both equally improbable.
Red Candle were actually the ones who said they took it down
Posted December 18, 2020
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IAmBored2: I still don't grasp why people are willing to buy the cover story Valve dished out (after all, if Valve really was a good guy, they'd publish it without a publisher like they do for all the indie games there) but not GoG's "Many gamers" cover story. They're both equally improbable.
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dycaite: Red Candle were actually the ones who said they took it down
Nope, that's what you're being lead to believe because Valve is a white knight in your eyes. The CCP took it down.
Posted December 18, 2020
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dycaite: Red Candle were actually the ones who said they took it down
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IAmBored2: Nope, that's what you're being lead to believe because Valve is a white knight in your eyes. The CCP took it down.
Whooaaa now when did I ever say I liked Valve lol

As far as their public response to the original removal goes, Red Candle decided to take it down themselves (due to pressure from the CCP, yes)
Post edited December 18, 2020 by dycaite
Posted December 18, 2020
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Lethargus: Anyone who knows alternatives for GOG? Preferably DRM free.
reicht das bashing nicht allmählich mal? Kauf deine Spiele doch am Grabbeltisch bei Mediamarkt/Saturn.
Posted December 18, 2020
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IAmBored2: Nope, that's what you're being lead to believe because Valve is a white knight in your eyes. The CCP took it down.
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dycaite: Whooaaa now when did I ever say I liked Valve lol

As far as their public response to the original removal goes, Red Candle decided to take it down themselves (due to pressure from the CCP, yes)
Ok, why doesn't Stream try to publish again? Why would red candle try here instead of steam again?
Posted December 18, 2020
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dycaite: Whooaaa now when did I ever say I liked Valve lol

As far as their public response to the original removal goes, Red Candle decided to take it down themselves (due to pressure from the CCP, yes)
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kohlrak: Ok, why doesn't Stream try to publish again? Why would red candle try here instead of steam again?
Great question - I don't know why they decided to go with GOG this time... Does Steam maybe have some clause that dev-removed games can't come back to the platform or something? I don't know the inner workings of it all.
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Posted December 18, 2020
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Lesser Blight Elemental: I'm not sure that GOG management realize how dependent they are on the goodwill of their core userbase. They're not Actiblizz, they don't have multiple exclusive games that millions are addicted to. They don't even have exclusivity on CDPR games. They're desperately trying to push Galaxy as a Steam competitor, and after this past week, I have no doubt they're willing to sell out even their core principle of selling DRM-free games. In fact, they already have. So I'm done. Whatever games I was going to buy on GOG, I'll get them on Steam or elsewhere instead, just out of spite. Clearly it doesn't make a difference, since I'm buying from opportunistic vultures without principles either way.
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Elmofongo: Why go to Steam then if they are no different. All spite is gonna do is make you feel good about yourself in the short term. You can't be spiteful forever.
I beg to differ. It is a reoccurring form of deliciousness being able to come back to the same bad state of affairs and twist the metaphorical knife a little for every time through stubborness it remains an unchanged state.
If someone will treat you poorly and never take the hint that just because you can't change that doesn't make it right; then it doesn't mean you can't get something out of making them constantly on the backpedal for it in every interaction your forced to make in exposure to the consequences of their poor form.
I call it cathartic reprisal.

In the game 'the evolution of trust' it is represented by the little cowboy hatted fella; who will work together with you, until you double cross him and then it's all down hill for you even if it costs him the game because at the real heart of things your a bad person and should feel bad.
May all your victories be pyrrhic.
Posted December 18, 2020
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dycaite: Great question - I don't know why they decided to go with GOG this time... Does Steam maybe have some clause that dev-removed games can't come back to the platform or something?
Most likely that Steam doesn't want this game back for the very same reason why Gog didn't sell it, Steam removed games critical to China before and are working closely with Chinese authorities to create a China friendly version of Steam.
Posted December 18, 2020
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Posted December 18, 2020
Wondering why everyone responds to an obviously throwaway account. But since everyone else is:

You are on the verge of deleting your GOG account. You want to tell everyone. But you can't put your name to the post. Bullshit. Paid propagandist probably.

If not, say what you want to say but please use your proper account otherwise your words are trash. If you're anything like me...

I am disappointed in the censorship. I will probably buy games at the same rate from GOG. Because I like games, and I buy games when they are fairly priced and worth the money. I could mention recent releases here.

If you look at the state of the world right now...this decision makes sense. GOG should absolutely be risk averse, in a difficult economy with a famously belligerent China. There are probably difficult questions being asked right now about why the initial announcement was made. It's not like PRC staff would deliberately buy a game and then ask for refunds while badmouthing the company...

But imo you shouldn't make decisions based on now. Yes people are fickle. And the PRC bet heavily on that when they started their campaign in western China. But people are getting to the stage of boycotting China over the human rights stuff (obviously people won't boycott anyone over games but the main actor is the same). I hope GOG knows which side they are going to be on if that happens.

(reserving the right to repost this as there are 100 different similar posts on this at the moment so I don't know where to post this and I don't want to create a new thread)
Post edited December 18, 2020 by lupineshadow
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