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Take command of an army in a turn-based strategy set in the dramatic period of WW2!

Strategic Mind: Blitzkrieg is coming soon DRM-free on GOG.COM. The game brings a modern look and new features to a wargame genre. You will have the opportunity to command ground, air, and naval forces with the emphasis on the land battles.
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Radiance1979: Why do you say so, ww2 alternatives are always high in demand. Nothing controversial into challenging others to see if they can manage to take london from the developers view of germany during ww2
I don't know, to me it sounds like celebrating/glorifying the martial prowess of the Wehrmacht, without regard for the wider context (e.g. war of aggression against the Poland, war crimes during the campaign, the mass murders committed by SS and police Einsatzgruppen during and after the campaign). imo you can't separate the narrowly military aspects from the wider context like that. So the game or at least the way it's marketed seems rather inappropriate to me.
Aside from description stuff - reading about the content of this game (and previous one with Naval Battles) it seems to be very, very limited. Only campaign for one nation, no skirmishes, no multiplayer, no map editor...

It doesn't sound too good in case of turn-based strategy. At least in my opinion.
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Radiance1979: Why do you say so, ww2 alternatives are always high in demand. Nothing controversial into challenging others to see if they can manage to take london from the developers view of germany during ww2
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morolf: I don't know, to me it sounds like celebrating/glorifying the martial prowess of the Wehrmacht, without regard for the wider context (e.g. war of aggression against the Poland, war crimes during the campaign, the mass murders committed by SS and police Einsatzgruppen during and after the campaign). imo you can't separate the narrowly military aspects from the wider context like that. So the game or at least the way it's marketed seems rather inappropriate to me.
Why should there be eye for context if the sole purpose of the game is replaying the different battles fought by germany during the 2d ww. I mean, it is not that i don't understand what you are saying but i do think this content is really not in place for a wargame.

The wargame scene is a scene where different scenario's from war's and or other kind of conflicts are reenacted to see feel and even change outcomes or understand why something has gone a similar way.

This can be as controversial as Belgium Soldiers in Africa, That fellow that found South America or heroic American marine actions against Japan in the 2d WW
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MartiusR: Aside from description stuff - reading about the content of this game (and previous one with Naval Battles) it seems to be very, very limited. Only campaign for one nation, no skirmishes, no multiplayer, no map editor...

It doesn't sound too good in case of turn-based strategy. At least in my opinion.
You should more think along the lines of the panzer general series then War in the East
Post edited April 20, 2020 by Radiance1979
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Radiance1979:
imo some subjects might just not be suitable for entertainment products (that's what his game is after all, it's not an in-depth military simulator after all that could advance historical understanding in any way). Just my opinion, if people want to buy that game, fine. But it wouldn't surprise me, if Gog gets some backlash for this weird game description.
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Radiance1979:
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morolf: imo some subjects might just not be suitable for entertainment products (that's what his game is after all, it's not an in-depth military simulator after all that could advance historical understanding in any way). Just my opinion, if people want to buy that game, fine. But it wouldn't surprise me, if Gog gets some backlash for this weird game description.
That is why i named Panzer General. I'm sure this game won't propogate any propoganda considered illegal in any way, and the forementioned games created a niche within a niche which are liked by a lot of players be it general hardcore wargamers or couch generals
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Radiance1979: Why do you say so, ww2 alternatives are always high in demand. Nothing controversial into challenging others to see if they can manage to take london from the developers view of germany during ww2
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morolf: I don't know, to me it sounds like celebrating/glorifying the martial prowess of the Wehrmacht, without regard for the wider context (e.g. war of aggression against the Poland, war crimes during the campaign, the mass murders committed by SS and police Einsatzgruppen during and after the campaign). imo you can't separate the narrowly military aspects from the wider context like that. So the game or at least the way it's marketed seems rather inappropriate to me.
This is not out-of-the-ordinary in strategic military games... Panzer General, Panzer Corps, Blitzkrieg, Rush to Berlin, Codenam Panzers, etc... IMHO the only issue here is... the trailer was a bit sensational for some recent tastes and sensitivities. But TBH even that is pretty standard for the strategic war gaming community. While I can somewhat understand the sensitivities, this game is not a Bunker / fascist RPG.
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Radiance1979:
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morolf: imo some subjects might just not be suitable for entertainment products (that's what his game is after all, it's not an in-depth military simulator after all that could advance historical understanding in any way). Just my opinion, if people want to buy that game, fine. But it wouldn't surprise me, if Gog gets some backlash for this weird game description.
If it is an entertainment product, as you say, why would it matter what side we play as?

Perhaps you could think of it like this;
Would you also look down upon an American civil war game in which you could play the South?
Any Russian war game? Any Chinese? Any Middle-east or African war game?
I don't think you could clearly say which side is always the good one, no matter where and when it takes place (in history).
Arbitrarily limiting games to only playing the "good" sides would severely limit both our options, and the devs creation.
Not to mention freedom of speech and expression. It's a slippery slope going down that path.
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Radiance1979: You should more think along the lines of the panzer general series then War in the East
I'm afraid I don't understand. First Panzer General allowed to play as Germany and as various Allied nations and as Soviet Union (in scenario mode, campaign was only for Germany), it also had multiplayer mode. This game won't have any of those options - just Germany campaign.
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Radiance1979: You should more think along the lines of the panzer general series then War in the East
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MartiusR: I'm afraid I don't understand. First Panzer General allowed to play as Germany and as various Allied nations and as Soviet Union (in scenario mode, campaign was only for Germany), it also had multiplayer mode. This game won't have any of those options - just Germany campaign.
I am talking about the panzer general model. persistent army core, unit veterancy, campaign based structure. In that it follows the rules perfectly. Modern games seemed to have cut down on the content, either replacing this with a quality 30 to 40 houred scripted game ( of sorts ) or throw the DLC towel ( such as Order of Battle )

I belief this to be the third game of the company having build upon a player foundation, might as well try out one of their earlier games during a sale or something to see if your comment holds any merit
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Vendor-Lazarus: If it is an entertainment product, as you say, why would it matter what side we play as?
Because playing as a nazi isn't entertaining for me?

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Vendor-Lazarus: I don't think you could clearly say which side is always the good one, no matter where and when it takes place (in history).
In this case yes, you very clearly can. If you have in doubts about that... honestly I don't even know what to say to you if that's the case.

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Vendor-Lazarus: Not to mention freedom of speech and expression. It's a slippery slope going down that path.
I don't think anyone here is trying to say this game should not exist, or should not be sold here, just that like me they're not interested in a game that only allows to play as the Germans and/or that the way it's being advertised is a bit... unfortunate given the context.

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Wishmaster777: Ah, the reaction of the reds. It is priceless. This game literally blitzkrieged through the Gog community.
Remember kids, only two kinds of people exist in the world: communists and nazis! And anyone who says otherwise is reptilian!
Post edited April 20, 2020 by Breja
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MartiusR: Aside from description stuff - reading about the content of this game (and previous one with Naval Battles) it seems to be very, very limited. Only campaign for one nation, no skirmishes, no multiplayer, no map editor...
That indeed is quite limited. And the lack of a Linux version also does not increase my interest.
Post edited April 21, 2020 by eiii
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Breja: Remember kids, only two kinds of people exist in the world: communists and nazis! And anyone who says otherwise is reptilian!
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Wishmaster777: Let me correct you. *National Socialists. You socialist don't like to hear that, huh? :-)
Ah, so you're a troll. Sorry, should have picked up on that immediately. My bad.
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Wishmaster777: Let me correct you. *National Socialists. You socialist don't like to hear that, huh? :-)
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Breja: Ah, so you're a troll. Sorry, should have picked up on that immediately. My bad.
You are so into this it is hillarious. :-) And when you don't have a valid argument, calling me a troll doesn't do you a favour.
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Wishmaster777: Ah, the reaction of the reds. It is priceless. This game literally blitzkrieged through the Gog community.
I really hope you are just an edgelord trying to be funny.
Post edited April 21, 2020 by Drevnek
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Jeez, each time I come back to this forum I find out it reached a new low.
Yay?
I guess it can be useful for researchers in psychology apllied to digital media?