Posted August 09, 2016
skeletonbow: On my keyboard, I get the following results for the double-SHIFT test: "ABDEFGHIJKLNOPQRSUW"
timppu: I got exactly the same with my Dell keyboard. Oh well, at least WASD are there. :) Here are my results for three different keyboards: 1. External Dell keyboard
2. ASUS G75VW laptop internal keyboard
3. Logitech K360 wireless keyboard
ABDEFGHIJKLNOPQRSUW
ADEFGHIJKLOPRSTUWY
ABCEGHIJKLMNOPQRSTVWXYZ
Interestingly the Logitech wireless keyboard seemed to get the best result (missing D F U)? I was expecting it to be the worst in this regard.
How do people normally notice this problem, ie. in what game, doing what? As said, I don't recall realizing ever that some key isn't working while I am playing, or then I have a high treshold for things like that.
Is there a list somewhere of keyboards where this issue isn't present at all?
Most people don't normally notice the problem because it only occurs when you press multiple keys at the same time that are normally never pressed at the same time and expect them to all register with the software being used, which is not something people usually do except in video games, and in games it isn't something that one would often notice either. The symptom might be playing an intense ARPG and trying to cast several spells while dancing all over the keys possibly while holding one or two modifiers down, or similar in an FPS. If you hit just the right combination of keys on your specific keyboard which do not all independently register then one or more of the things you were trying to tell the game to do might not register, so that one spell might not cast, or you might not run, or you might not move to the right, but a fraction of a second later you're pressing different keys and if something went wrong you might not notice at all, or you might think "shit, I swear I cast that spell..."
So the symptoms are not always identifiable when they happen, particularly because one's attention is kept pretty busy in the game.
I just tested some keypresses to try to repro a ghosting issue and I found one on my keyboard. If I press and hold down SHIFT and then press W, D simultaneously then also press S, the S is ignored. You wouldn't normally press W and S together in an FPS or other game that uses WASD for movement, as that's going forward and backward at the same time while also moving right - but you might press all of those keys on occasion unintentionally but meaning for the last key to actually do something.
I also just tried W+A+Q and that doesn't work either. So if I were running forward and to the left and pressed Q to cast a spell in say... The Witcher 3 - the spell would not get cast. That's a good example of the ghosting problem interfering with a game. :)
It's kind of like figuring out a Fatality move in a Mortal Kombat game. You randomly mash a dozen buttons until something special happens, then wonder what buttons you pressed and/or held in what order. If you figure it out you know the magic combo key to do the fatality move. :) Also, the problem varies from keyboard to keyboard so some combination that doesn't work for one person might work for another, but the other person may have a combo that fails that doesn't for someone else. :)
One way to test for it is to use those WASD keys holding 2 of them down that you might actually use together in a game, any two of them - then with your other hand, press all the keys around them that do something to see if they register, like I did above. Of course, using two hands is kind of cheating, but that's just to make it easier to find the keys that wont work properly. Whether they are something you'd use with one hand while gaming is another aspect. But the problem is still legitimate even with two hands. Perhaps one is running forward and to the left, and uses their other hand to hit the inventory key or a map or some other function and it doesn't work. The thing is we're not likely to notice specifically while playing because what our left hand is doing is jumping all over the keys as we move around, so the problem will be short little bursts of more likely to happen or less likely, and depends on what other keys we hit.
I dunno of a list of keyboards where the issue isn't present at all but you might want to search for "full anti-ghosting gaming keyboard" or something like that. Some of them do full anti-ghosting and others just partial on the left half of the keyboard commonly used for FPS/RPG/RTS/MMO games.