Thank you for the breakdown of those definitions and the advice (the advice re: RVS is kind of funny, considering the source, but appreciated nonetheless), as well as the link to that (now bookmarked) site!

I had not seen this post before posting my followup post, and then was hampered by time constraints & Rule #5.
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I see. Where does on go to change that subtext? I can't find it anymore. :O Thanks in advance to whoever answers!

Just click on it or go to https://www.gog.com/forum/mysettings

Thank you! Clicking on it does not work for me, but going tot he forum settings does.

Also, FYI travelling Sunday, will check using mobile, but I might not be available to be online as often as I'd like. Let's not leave things till the last minute.

I'm feeling a bit uneasy about Scene, SPF and you at the moment (sorry about that) in no particular order. Maybe ZFR as well. I'm not entirely sure why, it's mostly gut feelings. Not my first vote choices since there is no good reason but on the table.

As usual Lift is writing lots of stuff that I like for various reasons but I for the past few games I've had very hard time reading him, mostly because his writings resonate so good with my own thoughts. As much as I want him to be on my side I have him as neutral at best. Not voting for him for now.

I'm unsure about what I think of Pooka at this moment. Their responses to my pokes and others' comments are not enough to draw a solid conclusion but Pooka is among the more interesting players at the moment, for me. If I have to vote right now I'd rather go for someone else as I want to see more here.

Koro seems pretty rattled which I see as either scum getting irritated that they attracted some attention almost immediately in their very first game or Town who managed to do the same and is afraid that their own team would condemn them straight away. Not sure what to think about it at the moment but I have the feeling that Koro is more concerned about their own fate and/or how the game will progress/end for them as an individual rather than how it will affect their faction. I don't know what to think. Even though I encouraged them to not give up, if Koro doesn't step up a bit and starts feeling more comfortable playing I'd rather go with them then someone who is actually having fun and/or isn't feeling particularly scummy. On the table.

I like Micro. I don't think I'll be voting for them today.

I have a good feeling about blotunga, but I want to see more. I like how he doesn't want special treatment.

HSL and Fran are unknowns for me at the moment. HSL has posted a bit but I'm used to him posting tons and usually it takes a lot more figuring him out. I want to see more and unless something surprising happens I don't see him getting my vote.

Something definitely has to be done about Fran at this point. It would be a shame to vote a townie for not being present but also sparing scum just because they are not around to defend themselves. It's a bummer either way and I really hope they step up before mod actions are required.

This doesn't answer the why part. Why do you prefer a Lynch of Fran67, who hasn't said a single word, i.e. their Lynch would give us exactly nothing to work with come D2, over that of PookaMustard that has pinged you, even if just at the tentative D1 level?

I see you've narrowed it down to PookaMustard and supplementscene in your post #114, but I'd still like a reply to understand your thought process here.


I'm very cautious after his quite impressive performance in the Secret Hitler game; he proved he can pull off a lot more than what his first game (where he was town, IIRC) or his second one (where he was mafia) led us to think.

His ISO doesn't say much; the tame tone reminds me of the Secret Hitler game, but he hasn't posted much, and what he has is a tad dry on both analysis and questioning/probing. I do tentatively wonder if there's some buddying-up going on in his early exchanges with blotunga, though I couldn't say by whom if so (can't really put my finger on anything specific).

And then there's an off-site game and a (mentoring?) discussion after it, the details of either I'm not privy to, so that may have had some positive impact, as Lifthrasil (who was directly involved) seems to think.

So not sure what to make of him yet, and looking at the game field, I think I'll put him in the "wait and watch" pile for Today.

I was going to ask you about your gut feeling, but I see you commented on it in a later post.


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But if it's only used when scum it becomes a clear scum-tell, so they can't actually hide behind it, can they?

I've written my thoughts regarding lurkers. Even a mislynch is good since it punishes anti-town behaviour. Pooka's answers I liked and since I first accused him he looks more townish to me; not 100% cleared though. Also, since then Fran has posted, so he's off the table for me till he writes something, but I agree with dedo it's high time soemthing was done about him.

I suppose. My point was that all-my-posts-are-jokes behaviour shouldn't be encouraged for the same reason lurking shouldn't.
Thank you. I forgot you didn't watch the discord game that happened after secret Hitler. There scene (town) started accusing almost everyone from the start, then quickly made up his mind who the scum team is (including Lift and me, both town) and wouldn't budge, being sure that he solved the game. After the game he got berated for it by Lift.

But yes, I feel exactly that: buddying-up from scene. Too much of it. Not only to blotunga. It feels exaggerated.

Apologies for the edit. It was a merge post.

Off-topic: I got a new computer and just installed BE and AF. Now I have double post textboxes which behave weirdly. My last post is the result of that - some weird quotation happening in a way that I wasn't intending. Does anyone experience the same thing or know what to do to fix that?

Wait, what? When and where Fran posted and what sort of post did they write to put them off the table? I'm either blind, stupid or the forum is bugged for me as I can't see a single post made by Fran67 in the game thread.

You obviously don't read every post in the thread or just skimmed right over my post 34 because I gave definitions of two of the terms that you were confused about and also my reason for voting ZFR. Gives me the tingles to be a prime suspect though, is there a prize for it? I ISO'd you, I would tell you what that means but I'm not sure you'll read it ;-), and I like what you've posted for the most part. I don't like you asking in the signup thread about game related things though, you should always PM the mod to get answers like that.

Just an FYI also, I have no issues lynching a newbie Day 1. I don't subscribe to the belief that someone should not be lynched Day 1 because they are new, new or experienced should not be a factor in someone's lynch. If I find someone scummy I vote them, if I find someone to be town I will not vote them. It's as simple as that.

If you're really Town never apologize for suspecting me as we have to keep an eye on everyone in the game, especially Day 1. I ISO'd Koro, if you read this far Micro it means "Isolated" as in I Isolated all his posts and read only those, and I read his posts as genuine frustration of a town player being called out (it seemed to me that he felt Lift was berating him, even though I don't think Lift was). I hope he continues to play and does not give up because I have a bad feeling that fran is not going to be participating much either.


After ISOing everyone the only other player than you that has piqued my interest to a degree that would make me vote them is Scene. Does it bother you that I might possibly vote one of your scum buddies if I voted Scene?

Sorry, got a bit sidetracked with an unexpected trade (woot!), and a phone call.

I don't know, for all his newbie talk and attitude, he's intelligent enough and apparently doing his homework, yet his probing feels on the superficial side.

Take his post #39 for example. He gave SirPrimalform a pass regarding participation based on the single (at the time) joke-post the latter had made, and blotunga based on his first post (#33). Then went on to say he's waiting to see what those two will say. That was two days ago according to GOG's time stamps), yet he never returned to either one. Does this mean he's satisfied with what he's seen from them? And if so, why? Or does it mean that he said what he did in post #39 to appear as wanting/trying to move the game forward?


They did? Where? Or do you mean in the sign-up thread? If the latter, I was just typing the following to dedoporno:

With all due respect, Fran67 better start posting in this thread; the game's up for three days now, and it does us all, Fran67 included, no good that they're still in but watching the game from afar. I mean, I can understand that things may feel a bit overwhelming, but get in here; you need to get your feet wet if you want to play, and if you need help/clarification, just ask away.


I don't think that anyone here is encouraging it in the way you mean (if I understand you correctly), but on the other hand, you can't force someone to change it.


I don't know how severe that was, perhaps he got tired of being reprimanded and the default #1 choice for the D1 lynch, or worse, thought/felt he'd not be welcome to play here any more if he didn't make a (serious?) effort?


As I said, I'm not sure if it actually was buddying-up, and if it is, who was doing it to whom; I'm not exactly a fan of blotunga's game so far, but I need to see more from both of them.

supplementscene has made exactly three posts, and the only other direct interaction he had was with you. Whom else do you see him buddying-up to the point you call it "exaggerated"?


I can confirm it was.

Can I have a bump, please?

bump

Thank you!

It's two days later. What do you think about what they said since you made this post?



Have you read the rest of his post you're partially (selectively?) quoting here?

Because if you have, I still don't see why you think that trentonlf voted ZFR for the latter changing his strategy, so elaborate? And if you haven't, perhaps you'd like to do it now, and come back to me?


Did you just compare ZFR's choice to place an RVS vote using RNG, which has been discussed and criticised quite extensively, to Brasas' (valid) approach of Secret Hitler based on his experience playing Resistance?

And you didn't answer my second question to you in my post #94 regarding PookaMustard in all of this. Did you miss it while reading on your mobile, or am I to assume you aren't going to answer?


Can you point me to supplementscene's post where he voted you?



Wait, where did you change your vote to blotunga? You don't seriously mean post #68, do you? In case you didn't notice, this is not a new iteration of the pokemon game.

On a related side note, this is the sort of "heavy flavour" I referred to in the sign-up thread.