Please stop using that term incorrectly, GOG; it's so irritating to read. You should make it your business as a good citizen of the gaming industry to know what you're talking about, and to not promote such bad terminology usage to your community.

Blatantly not isometric:

https://images-2.gog.com/9f98a472a4a04d8826e3a2536f3c9b4252c2dc4f82561039a9f8e49b91910fec.jpg

You're absolutely right... middle finger, much?

Guess we know how much the devs care about GoG customers. I'm guessing no updates in the future then?

I don't quite understand this. Didn't the fact that they massively updated the GOG version (replacing the original Deadline with the Rebirth version in the process) now restore your faith to the publisher at all?

Or is this GOG Rebirt update already missing some important updates too?

I have the two Breach & Clear games on GOG, and I see DEADline got replaced by this new Rebirth version. Just mentioning this in case someone understood this news wrong, by thinking that now they published a remake of the game that one has to buy all over again. No, this Rebirth is that massive update that the existing DEADline owners got.

To me it kinda even makes sense that the earlier GOG version of DEADline didn't receive updates in the meantime... if the publisher (and GOG) knew it will be replaced by this Rebirth version anyway. So better to put your resources on bringing that new version to GOG, than trying to patch up the old (apparently broken, also on Steam) version.

To me this is a bit like with that Hands of Fate game. At some point it seemed the publisher may have abandoned the GOG version... but eventually they released a new update to it, plus the missing DLC. That was the point at which I wanted to reward the publisher for continuing to support the GOG version.


Then again, the discussion on why the Steam version now has a bigger discount is quite valid, and might be a reason for someone to choose the Steam version instead. It doesn't affect me though as I already have the game (from GOG).

EDIT: What do you know, I seem to have it in my Steam library as well... maybe it came as part of some Humble Bundle then as I don't recall buying the B&C games from Steam itself.

The thing is, they did not patches for the original version here on GOG. So just publishing a major overhaul of the game when they did not provide critical updates for the previos version does not help.

That is exactly the point. They haven't provided patches for the previous version, only time will tell if they finally support the overhauled game here on GOG. Because if they abandon it here again....

lol fuck it. It's like talking to a brick wall that continues to grow taller in it's own little way, not realising it's in fact the same height as me.

Good old great wall of apology timppu.

Ugh...Unity. It makes great games like Wasteland 2 feel like crap. I really wish non-mobile/HTML 5 developers would stop using it.

Also GOG, you should hire someone else to handle your publisher/developer contracts. You keep on getting jipped just because some of them "don't feel like it" and you have no enforcement of these policies. It's unfortunate.

Judging by the discussion, the Steam version was still utterly broken with those patches, so what would it have really helped if they had arrived to GOG? The GOG version would still have been similarly broken.

Apparently the developer then made a sane choice and concentrated on making an overhaul to the game, so big changes that they named it again to "Rebirth". The important thing to me is that they brought this mega-update also to GOG (and as far as I can tell, at the same time as for the Steam version (17th of November)).

I personally am fine with those broken temporary version having not appeared on GOG in the meantime... IF the plan all along was to bring this overhauled Rebirth update to GOG. In that case yes concentrate on that one mega update (and bring it to GOG), rather than waste time on bringing the earlier broken patches to GOG. It certainly took a long time (both to Steam and GOG), but luckily they still managed it.

Apparently we think differently on what this Rebirth version is. To you it apparently is some kind of remake or sequel to Breach & Clear: DEADline, and you feel it will similarly need lots of further updates and are afraid they will not appear to the GOG version.

To me this seems like one big megapatch, containing all the fixes that have appeared earlier this year to the Steam version (right?). Are there already reports that even after this update the game is broken and will need further critical updates?

I am really puzzled by your statement above, that bringing this one big-ass update to GOG does not matter ("...does not help", as you said). What the heck? Are you saying they could have just as well not bring it to GOG?

My question was: is there something critical still to fix? Remember, this is not a sequel to DEADline, this is a mega update to it. As the developers say themselves even on Steam:

"All of these changes and improvements combine to ensure that this is the definitive, and complete version of Breach & Clear: Deadline."

Apparently they felt it doesn't make much sense to use resources on bringing the earlier patches to GOG, if they were working on bringing this anyway, replacing all those earlier patches. I for one am glad they brought this mega-update to GOG.

More than likely given the age of the game, they probably won't be updating it anymore anyway unless some game breaking bugs appears in this version. This seems like one of those situations were they give one last big free update because they know the game wasn't received very well and they don't want to leave it in a horrible position that reflects on their next game. Just my two cents.

I was going to reply to your message, but apparently you realized it wasn't making much sense anymore. Good call.

Sorry if I don't feel like condemning the publisher for bringing this one big (and probably the final) mega-update to GOG, at the same time as they brought it to Steam no less. Bad bad publisher, you shouldn't have apparently brought it to GOG at all. :D

If the main problem was that they claimed to you they are not going to support the GOG version anymore... maybe it was merely a communication problem between the two of you, and they meant they will not bring those temporary patches on top of the non-Rebirth version anymore, because they are already working on the overhauled version.

This is pretty much my thinking too, apparently the game has been in Humble Bundles already etc. (as I have it also on my Steam account for some reason). That's also why I was interested to know is there still something critically broken in this Rebirth version, ie. should we even be expecting any further updates, even for Steam?

I take it positively that the publisher decided to make this "one last effort", and brought it to GOG too. I don't say the same for someone like the developers of Slender: The Arrival which indeed seem to have completely abandoned the GOG version (and probably the Steam version too already by now).

But, if they at some point suddenly released one final update to the GOG version of Slender, even under the fear of being called "an apologist", I would commend them for that, not condemn.

Of course it did, by a lot, just not a full 100%. Reading a positive review of this new version might even lead to me buying this.

Good to see they did not just leave the mess but really put in an effort to fix the game. Many many developers could learn from that.

True. If the same publisher has other newer games on GOG, I might want to wait for awhile to see what kind of support they are offering for the GOG version. But specifically for this particular title (B&C: DEADline), it is cool now for me. EDIT: Too bad about the Steam users getting a bigger discount though, even if that doesn't affect me anymore.

This is what I am doing with Banner Saga 2 at the moment. The developer apparently made comments earlier about not really wanting to release the game on GOG, so I'm first waiting to see what kind of commitment, if any, they have for the GOG version. And based on that, either buy or not to buy it. They have to earn my trust now because of their track record.

I am not necessarily expecting them to bring every single Steam update to GOG, and at the same time as for the Steam version. As long as they update the GOG version with critical fixes once in a while.

That actually reminds me to check the Banner Saga subforum, whether the GOG version of BS2 has received any updates so far (that have already appeared on Steam). EDIT: Good news I guess, at least the GOG versíon has already been updated a couple of times. So maybe this enters my wishlist then...

https://www.gog.com/forum/the_banner_saga_series/changelog

That was quite understandable... before this latest mega-update. I don't see that much point still harping on it, as if the GOG version is still abandoned.

I was genuinely surprised by the reactions when this update came. I was more expecting in the line of

"Damn! This was a nice surprise! Better late than never I guess."

but it seemed people were still just angry and still giving F Us to the publisher, as if this update doesn't change anything. To me this was a massively positive surprise.

In a general level, yeah I guess we can discuss why publishers show more commitment to Steam than GOG, but I guess I've grown to just accept that as the way it is. I require publishers to keep supporting the GOG version too (e.g. F U to the publishers of Slender for not supporting the GOG version anymore), it is just that I am not expecting quite the same level and timely of support as Steam gets. I would even call it unrealistic at this point to expect such.

I wish there was an ignore button for games. With the update situation and the price discrepancy between here and Steam, I don't want to give them any money.