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Orkhepaj: so how is the boycott going, any success?
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rjbuffchix: As others have previously discussed and suggested, several of us are having subjective successes in that we are:
-not supporting a company engaging in actions we disapprove of
-saving money, or spending it otherwise
-receiving satisfaction at sticking to our principles

However, when it comes to GOG's direction, who knows. Seems to be about the same...desired games still not arriving, newest big release (Stronghold Warlords) has multiplayer DRM via Galaxy. I'm not seeing any concrete steps of them trying to "do better" by the customers in general let alone the boycotters, but it hasn't gotten worse yet either.
It's only been a little over 2 months. I'd have been surprised to see any major changes this early.
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Orkhepaj: so how is the boycott going, any success?
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kdgog: One weird thing - everything I post now is "low rated", is someone marking down any post that is even slightly critical of GOG?
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Orkhepaj: yeah , some infantile trolls cant tolerate different opinions
gog should ban em but this forum is just a relic from a brighter past
Yep. I guess GOG would like to get rid of the forum entirely. At least they are not willing to invest any resources into it's upkeep.

As for the boycott, as rjbuffchix said, yes, there are personal successes. Like saving money and being sure to do the right thing by standing up for my principles. I'm under no illusion that we were enough to make GOG change course. For that both our number and the loudness of the protest would have to be much bigger. Probably it would also be more noticeable for GOG if this protest and boycott discussion would happen in their social media channels and not in their abandoned forum. However, I'm not going to make a twatter account just to tell GOG that they suck.
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Lifthrasil: Probably it would also be more noticeable for GOG if this protest and boycott discussion would happen in their social media channels and not in their abandoned forum. However, I'm not going to make a twatter account just to tell GOG that they suck.
That can have more impact when public, except GOG will just block dissenters from their Facebook Page and Twitter discussions. They blocked me on Twitter the other day, so I can't see their account or anything they post (and they won't see anything I say about them). I can still complain on Twitter - and when I do mention them anywhere it will certainly be much more negative now they are also adopting those cheap tactics - but in he end with tricks like that they are doing their best to stifle dissent, rather than listening.
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Orkhepaj: so how is the boycott going, any success?

yeah , some infantile trolls cant tolerate different opinions
gog should ban em but this forum is just a relic from a brighter past
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Lifthrasil: Yep. I guess GOG would like to get rid of the forum entirely. At least they are not willing to invest any resources into it's upkeep.

As for the boycott, as rjbuffchix said, yes, there are personal successes. Like saving money and being sure to do the right thing by standing up for my principles. I'm under no illusion that we were enough to make GOG change course. For that both our number and the loudness of the protest would have to be much bigger. Probably it would also be more noticeable for GOG if this protest and boycott discussion would happen in their social media channels and not in their abandoned forum. However, I'm not going to make a twatter account just to tell GOG that they suck.
yes probably on twitter this would get more attention from gog
i havent bought anything yet since last dec, but im highly skeptical if this would make any change
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kdgog: but in he end with tricks like that they are doing their best to stifle dissent, rather than listening.
Yes. It's really sad how GOG turned from a pro-customer company that valued open communication turned into a company that employs anti-customer methods and avoids and stifles communication wherever possible.
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Lifthrasil: Probably it would also be more noticeable for GOG if this protest and boycott discussion would happen in their social media channels and not in their abandoned forum. However, I'm not going to make a twatter account just to tell GOG that they suck.
I don't use Twitter or FB either (I'm not a big fan of mass data harvesting). I like forums and this is how I choose to communicate. If GOG wants to ignore it, that's their problem.
For those not having issue/s with reddit there is also this: https://old.reddit.com/r/gog/
Some links to discord server/s here: https://old.reddit.com/r/gog/comments/lug6p1/moving_forward_with_rgog_part_2/
This is supposed to be their (new ~= old) policy: https://old.reddit.com/r/gog/comments/lug6p1/moving_forward_with_rgog_part_2/gp6b5k0/
Note that I dont know much about 'r/gog' though. So its for example possible (from my not-knowing-better POV) that their quoted policy is about as honest as GOGs communication policy in https://www.gog.com/about_gog

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Lifthrasil: Probably it would also be more noticeable for GOG if this protest and boycott discussion would happen in their social media channels and not in their abandoned forum. However, I'm not going to make a twatter account just to tell GOG that they suck.
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kdgog: That can have more impact when public, except GOG will just block dissenters from their Facebook Page and Twitter discussions. They blocked me on Twitter the other day, so I can't see their account or anything they post (and they won't see anything I say about them). I can still complain on Twitter - and when I do mention them anywhere it will certainly be much more negative now they are also adopting those cheap tactics - but in he end with tricks like that they are doing their best to stifle dissent, rather than listening.
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Lifthrasil: Probably it would also be more noticeable for GOG if this protest and boycott discussion would happen in their social media channels and not in their abandoned forum. However, I'm not going to make a twatter account just to tell GOG that they suck.
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Time4Tea: I don't use Twitter or FB either (I'm not a big fan of mass data harvesting). I like forums and this is how I choose to communicate. If GOG wants to ignore it, that's their problem.
Perhaps we should take a page from the "many gamers" and e-mail them directly if we aren't already, then?
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WeirdoGeek: Perhaps we should take a page from the "many gamers" and e-mail them directly if we aren't already, then?
The many Gamers that actually use GOG and contact GOG they don't really listen to.

Emails will either be ignored or closed depending on where you send them.

Its the invisible "gamers" that will never use GOG and have no interest at all in GOG they listen to not us Gamers that actually use GOG.

I've said it before and I'll say it again GOG is not about the Gamers its about the "gamers".

I'll also add that I'm not boycotting them, however I am getting less and less from them.
Post edited March 12, 2021 by RoboPond
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Time4Tea: It seems it is sadly not possible in this day and age for a business to be successful, without falling into that hole and becoming corrupted.
Or LEGAL in some cases....yup, in some places a publicly traded company is bound to do it's best to maximize profits. Sad thing, huh?

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kdgog: I agree totally; and thanks for the suggestion of another store, I'll have a look. Sorry my messages were so long!
Not a problem....I also liked reading them btw. :)
(you brought up some good points and echoed a few of my own feelings as well)

Sidenote: I second the recommendation to try zoom platform. It is just like GOG, albeit with a less "pretty" website and no forums.


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kdgog: One weird thing - everything I post now is "low rated", is someone marking down any post that is even slightly critical of GOG?
You're likely being followed by the "fans"(trolls) of GOG. They down rate (to varying degrees, and via their own programs) anyone they notice who posts something in their list of dislikes/pet peeves(in your case it's likely because you heavily criticized GOG and especially concerning the devotion decision, which they seem to dislike).

My advice? Pay them no mind.....the worst they do is take away some worthless points, anyways.

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WeirdoGeek: I'm pretty sure that would be the work of the "many gamers". They DID take that time to spam GOG and they'd hate for that work to be for nothing.
The "many gamers" are likely not watching the forums much anymore, as it's an "old"(to the net, I mean) issue. As said above to Kdgog, it's more likely the forum trolls and their bots.
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IAmBored2: How can you fight evil when everyone else turns a blind eye to it?
Well for boycotts like the one in the OP post, you don't need everyone onboard....just a decent number. Problem is, the majority here using the site(who don't even use the forums in many cases, btw) are the kind who like to use ONLY galaxy(no offline installers) and see no problem with gog not selling a game because of "many gamers requests"(i.e. trolls or ccp demands/pressure).

That said, I don't mind if some don't join such boycotts....as not everyone is in a situation or strong willed enough to follow through with such things, and I feel it should ultimately be up to them to choose whether to do so.
(free of social pressure and the like)

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Hexchild: Don't worry about the popularity contest prizes in green and orange. They have very little to do with common sense or human decency anyway. If anything they behave more like passing weather.
Dang....well said.

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Hexchild: It's only been a little over 2 months. I'd have been surprised to see any major changes this early.
If the GOG DLer removal protest threads are any indicator, i'd (sadly) expect nothing to change even a year down the line....well not unless this movement can get a ton more support behind it**. :\
(**and in the "public sphere" more....i.e. social media and the like).
Post edited March 12, 2021 by GamezRanker
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Lifthrasil: Yep. I guess GOG would like to get rid of the forum entirely. At least they are not willing to invest any resources into it's upkeep.
Sidenote: I am guessing this is at least partially why the staff have recently** cracked down on various threads and posts and their content on the forums.

(i.e. when it becomes a pain to post to a site, people tend to post less or move on, which empties out the forums and makes it easier for them[should they choose to do so] to close it)

(**over the past year or so, minus the time they were likely told to ignore the board during the devotion removal & 2077 problems)

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Lifthrasil: Probably it would also be more noticeable for GOG if this protest and boycott discussion would happen in their social media channels and not in their abandoned forum. However, I'm not going to make a twatter account just to tell GOG that they suck.
A few talking heads on YT and the like made videos about it, and people posted on social media.....gog must REALLY want them chyna bux.

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To all: Keep up the good "fyte" and all with this boycott, and also sorry for all the posts.
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WeirdoGeek: Perhaps we should take a page from the "many gamers" and e-mail them directly if we aren't already, then?
Did that, of course. But never go a reply.
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Time4Tea: It seems it is sadly not possible in this day and age for a business to be successful, without falling into that hole and becoming corrupted.
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GamezRanker: Or LEGAL in some cases....yup, in some places a publicly traded company is bound to do it's best to maximize profits. Sad thing, huh?
The irony there is that 'do it's best to maximize profits' is an extremely vague term. Are we talking about short-term or long-term profits? How does someone judge whether a public company 'did it's best'? It's not like there is one specific formula for running a successful business. Everything looks different in hindsight and you can't turn back the clock and try something different, to see if it would have worked out better.

And then, there are some investors that invest for ethical reasons, not just purely based on profitability. I find the idea of trying to force a company to comply with some vague notion of 'maximizing profits' pretty dumb, tbh.
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Time4Tea: The irony there is that 'do it's best to maximize profits' is an extremely vague term. Are we talking about short-term or long-term profits? How does someone judge whether a public company 'did it's best'? It's not like there is one specific formula for running a successful business. Everything looks different in hindsight and you can't turn back the clock and try something different, to see if it would have worked out better.
I believe it's called a vote of no confidence, and shareholders(maybe only the major ones or maybe any, I am not fully sure) in some countries can call them if they feel the company leadership isn't working in their interests and that of the company....and one of those ways is if a company "isn't making enough profit".

Now this isn't a problem(afaik) with private companies, but it is with public ones(at least in the countries that I am aware of).

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Time4Tea: And then, there are some investors that invest for ethical reasons, not just purely based on profitability. I find the idea of trying to force a company to comply with some vague notion of 'maximizing profits' pretty dumb, tbh.
Well the above is(afaik) in place to make sure a company's leadership doesn't run it into the ground, but it is imo too often used for greed based reasons.