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To be fair, Norton is still a good choice when you could be using this guy's AV software instead.
False-positives.
Calm the fuck down dude. I deleted those files and guess what? I coudn't play the fucking game anymore. I had to reinstall it and,as yyahoo provided the link, one of the GOG represatives comfirmed that those files are false-positives.
Get off your high horse and stop pressing the issue.
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tinyE: I don't know what is in the water in the Czech Republic, but I WANT IT!!!!
Man, this thread make my day. LOL.

We should stop the world to solve this issue.
Hearing it's a false positive isn't a surprise, and here's why.

One of the main reasons you get a game through a DD service or on disc, is to ensure it wasn't tampered with. Yeah SHA-1 and MD5 checksums are great, when you have them to compare against. If you get it via some other source (TPB) there's no guarantee they didn't slip something in there (although usually you can guess based on ranking and comments if it does); Warez sites for a long time always slipped something in. DD sites aren't going to have them, they are going to be clean and directly compiled from the devs (unless they are older games without sources).

I'm not so sure about steam with them letting the floodgates of crappy games on and almost no QA, but usually they are clean of viruses/malware too.

Actually i've seen more malware with third party device drivers than i ever did through getting games/software elsewhere...

I kinda wish that Linux was adopted as the preferred OS, and there would be almost no virus protection needed (it's just a horrible breeding ground).
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rtcvb32: I kinda wish that Linux was adopted as the preferred OS, and there would be almost no virus protection needed (it's just a horrible breeding ground).
Then your wish isn't well make.

Windows is the target for malware / adware / viruses and all that crap because is the most use OS. Besides, most Windows users aren't advances ones and most times those threads are installed because the user allows it.

Linux user's are often more advanced, but if Linux became the preferred OS then it will be plagued for all that threads.
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montcer9012: Windows is the target for malware / adware / viruses and all that crap because it is the most used OS. Besides, most Windows users aren't advances ones and most times those threats are installed because the user allows it.

Linux user's are often more advanced, but if Linux became the preferred OS then it will be plagued for all that threats.
Windows actually isn't the dominant OS. It may be for desktop computers (as they insist on a copy of pre-installed windows with it), but there are many devices that use Unix/Linux. Routers, servers, slot machines, tablets, Virtual machines, etc. Windows is just too bulky and bloated most of the time, not to mention you need to purchase a license.

But i don't think we would have the same threats as Windows does. Sure if you consider the android marketplace with the Google Play Store, there are malware disguised as free to play games, or apps, but those are handled/installed in a sandbox way; Removing them are clean and easy that doesn't get interlaced with the OS/system. As you said though, the user has to allow it to install, much less annoying than the UAC when Vista showed itself.

I especially like the idea of having a filesystem image copied to memory containing the OS, and is decompressed on the fly as you need it.
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The main reason Linux machines are not usually compromised so often is that Linux users actually think about their decisions and try to understand what's going on. They don't madly click "OK" just to make a dialog window go away, they don't blindly trust certificates issued by Sudan Telecom just because Sudan Telecom is a trusted authority according to their browser, they don't run everything as root and they don't ignore security software warnings just because "Jimmy says the file is okay, so it's probably okay, plus I really want to play this game."
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Kamamura: The main reason Linux machines are not usually compromised so often is that Linux users actually think about their decisions and try to understand what's going on. They don't madly click "OK" just to make a dialog window go away, they don't blindly trust certificates issued by Sudan Telecom just because Sudan Telecom is a trusted authority according to their browser, they don't run everything as root and they don't ignore security software warnings just because "Jimmy says the file is okay, so it's probably okay, plus I really want to play this game."
I don't know anything about computers and i still know this answer is rubbish.
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Kamamura: ...
Makes me wonder about the approach to learning and the mindset of the users. It used to be where you had to learn a particular set of skills, and you didn't have help from anyone else who understood it so you had to memorize and learn the intricacies of it. Be it building a computer, knitting, or anything else.

Today most people don't know basic knots, everything's been replaced with premade cable kits that have no knots involved, and if it breaks you buy a new one. On programming forums at some locations the simplest questions are asked since they take the time to learn it themselves...

Yeah... someone blindly hitting OK does more damage than anything else, and today most people are programmed to accept stuff blindly... EULA's, NDA's, renting agreements, bank account agreements, mortgage and other agreements... people blindly will sign away their lives without taking the time to actually read what they are agreeing to...

It's true what they say. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link, and if the weakest link is the user, than they will be screwed no matter what OS they are given. Although Apple and phones don't let you rootkit the systems half the time so you can't screw them up too badly (hopefully)
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rtcvb32: Windows actually isn't the dominant OS. It may be for desktop computers (as they insist on a copy of pre-installed windows with it), but there are many devices that use Unix/Linux.
No, is not that it may be. It is the most used in the PC fields.

I seriously doubt Linux take the lead with Android. Big companies have lots and lots of computers, all runing Windows. Same as schools and universities. There are like 1 computer for 1 user, and not every person have an Android device.

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Kamamura: The main reason Linux machines are not usually compromised so often is that Linux users actually think about their decisions and try to understand what's going on. They don't madly click "OK" just to make a dialog window go away...
YES! Exactly. That was I try to say with "advanced" / "non-advanced" users. But either way, we are now seing more and more threads into the Android fields because it has starting to become popular so is obvious Windows is "dangerous" because is the main target.



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Kamamura: they don't run everything as root and they don't ignore security software warnings just because "Jimmy says the file is okay, so it's probably okay, plus I really want to play this game."
Your post was fine until that part hahaha. Don't be paranoic, man. All the antivirus you have mentioned are know because their over reacts and the false positive files. That turns those proctection programs, not very trusted. Credibility is lost.
Post edited January 17, 2015 by montcer9012
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montcer9012: I seriously doubt Linux take the lead with Android. Big companies have lots and lots of computers, all runing Windows. Same as schools and universities. There are like 1 computer for 1 user, and not every person have an Android device.
Yeah i'm not expecting android to really take the lead either... But i'd take it over a windows tablet/phone or iphone/ipad.

You know now that i think about it, When i was in school they had Apple computers everywhere, either Apple 2 or Mac systems. The only thing i can remember is a few icons, and the mouse controls that are identical to Windows machines. Actually teaching you the machines was minimal, they were used far more for either a word processor, or teaching you typing; Which they did a crappy job of by covering your hands and insisting you memorize the key locations rather than just letting you type away and getting it into muscle memory... Not to mention Qwerty keyboards being the dominant format rather than Dvorak which bites us in the butt now 50 years later...

I don't know. I see a lot of simple problems that would be solved if everyone just changed over, and they won't... because we are creatures of habit... and addiction.
This is the funniest thread I've seen this year.
As a "system administrator that deals with infected machines" you should have been able to tell the difference between a virus with "potentially huge impact" and a false positive. Otherwise - as others have pointed out - a little research would have shown you the answers you're looking for.
Post edited January 17, 2015 by Pardinuz
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F4LL0UT: I had no idea who that is. So I checked and was surprised to see that it's not an AIDS joke.
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tinyE: I wouldn't joke about that, and I'm not really joking about him. :P He's pushing 50 and leading his team in scoring. I don't know what is in the water in the Czech Republic, but I WANT IT!!!!
It would need a confirmation but I think that beer in bottle is cheaper than water in bottle over there. At least that's what I was told growing up, and led me to believe this is some kind of eldorado.
Post edited January 17, 2015 by Potzato
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I remember my first "false positive"....that kid would've been 23yo by now.
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F4LL0UT: I had no idea who that is. So I checked and was surprised to see that it's not an AIDS joke.
How did you live life without NHL in the 2000s?