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Telika: Not avoiding them. AT ALL.

Absolutely completely sunk.

(But I used to have a cat. Cats work well. Also, living in Greece, when possible. Breathing the greek oxygen, in the greek luminosity, around greek noise, does repair the soul just fine. If no Greece available, try seas in general.)
Would Lake Ontario do the trick?
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ScotchMonkey: But I have found that exercising nearly every day has alleviated this quite a bit.
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grimwerk: The same works well for me.

Also, and this may sound a bit dorky, but helping someone else really improves my mood.

I used to go for long walks carrying my son when he was a few months old. Most people were considerate or at least careful, but occasionally I'd get some group of fools knowingly shoving past me as I opened a door with my kid tucked in one arm. I'm not the sort to go clouting people, still, this'd sometimes leave me in a foul rage.

One evening I went running, angrily and fast, to settle myself. It had just turned dark, and I ran past a mum and her young son struggling to get a chain back on his bike. Lost in angry thoughts, it wasn't till two minutes later that it occurred to me to run back and offer to help. (Once I realized, I was briefly annoyed at myself.) So I did. When they were on there way again I found my bad mood had completely evaporated.
Helping people has always given me a boost. Kind of like spreading the love and sharing the positive outcome so to speak.
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ScotchMonkey: So I suffer from something called Dysthymia. As such I tend to dwell on the negative and basically have a tendency to just let the bad mojo run the course in my head.

But I have found that exercising nearly every day has alleviated this quite a bit. More so than medication to the point that I don't need it anymore. I'm going to give Cognitive Behavioral Therapy another go as it has helped me in the past.

What are some thing you guys do to avoid letting the negative thoughts get the best of you?
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FT337mZn: When I notice that I get pulled into a vortex of negativity, I take this as an impulse to become more "mindful". The term "mindfulness" is a recent buzzword, but it describes something that goes back a long time. It basically means to drop into the present moment and to surrender to it completely, in a direct experiental way, without judgements or resistance. In particular if you are plagued by negative *thoughts*, it means to become aware of how you are generating these thoughts without trying to analyze them. This already creates a separation between you and your compulsive thinking-machine (let's call it the ego), as you can directly feel that the two are not the same. This non-identification with your thoughts (ego) in turn has a hugely liberating effect, as you don't have to take your thoughts so personal anymore.
That's very insightful. Doesn't sound like a bad exercise at all. Its like instead of riding the roller coaster you simply chose not to get on and instead look at the layout of the track.
Post edited March 28, 2015 by ScotchMonkey
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Telika: Not avoiding them. AT ALL.

Absolutely completely sunk.

(But I used to have a cat. Cats work well. Also, living in Greece, when possible. Breathing the greek oxygen, in the greek luminosity, around greek noise, does repair the soul just fine. If no Greece available, try seas in general.)
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ScotchMonkey: Would Lake Ontario do the trick?
I don't know. I think the sea's energy comes from their open nature, and the fact that so many countries bathe in them, plus possibly the southern winds. But i contrast them to a different (swiss, european) meaning of 'lake'. American 'lakes', and their ridiculous scales, may provide something completely different from the ponds i'm familiar with. I have really no idea of how an american lake 'feels' like.
This. The moment the sword is sheathed I feel a sparkle of satisfaction and peace - provided the kata's done right. This is probably just my thing though, I wouldn't bet on you achieving the same effect.
I suspect a workout could do the trick as well. Then there's a rule to not leave yourself the time to dwell on the negative stuff, do something all the time.
And yes, a cat may help. Those furry egoists know how to cheer you up. If you're not a cat person, I think a dog would work too.
Get yourself a pet,and when down just play with it.....Works a treat......
Advise against getting a Funnel Web Spider as they tend to bite if annoyed....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsEogUO7q1M
Playing uplifting, innocent and engaging games helped me. Like Okami and Kingdom Hearts.
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FT337mZn: When I notice that I get pulled into a vortex of negativity, I take this as an impulse to become more "mindful". The term "mindfulness" is a recent buzzword, but it describes something that goes back a long time. It basically means to drop into the present moment and to surrender to it completely, in a direct experiental way, without judgements or resistance. In particular if you are plagued by negative *thoughts*, it means to become aware of how you are generating these thoughts without trying to analyze them. This already creates a separation between you and your compulsive thinking-machine (let's call it the ego), as you can directly feel that the two are not the same. This non-identification with your thoughts (ego) in turn has a hugely liberating effect, as you don't have to take your thoughts so personal anymore.
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ScotchMonkey: That's very insightful. Doesn't sound like a bad exercise at all. Its like instead of riding the roller coaster you simply chose not to get on and instead look at the layout of the track.
You seem to have understood what I tried to convey. But one really has to experience it in order to fully understand. I should also add that it takes some time and practice until you will be able to generate a presence that is stable enough. It's now a year since I have begun my journey into mindfulness, and only of recent I have been able to reside in awareness in the presence of very negative emotions.
Think of your awareness like a muscle that needs to be trained. Even though it's already there and it is accessible at any time, one needs to strengthen it in order to "carry" heavy weights. Probably this analogy has some truth to it physiologically, as it seems that the pre-frontal cortex plays an important role here.

If you are interesting in trying this out for yourself, I can suggest to you the book "The Mindful Way Through Depression" by Jon Kabat-Zinn, et. al. This book takes on mindfulness from a neutral and very practical point-of-view. If you are not afraid of something more spiritual, I would also recommend "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle. This is not a practical guide, but it helps to you understand what it's really about.
Post edited March 29, 2015 by FT337mZn
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ScotchMonkey: What are some thing you guys do to avoid letting the negative thoughts get the best of you?
Negative thoughts are fine to have as long as you also consider other kinds of thoughts. The suggestions here tend to be a little ineffective in the long run. You can't flip on a funny video in the middle of an anger episode at work, for example. The long term efficacy of resorting to an external source to control your feelings and thoughts is more questionable than my qualifications as a counselor. If you have any specific inquiries feel free to pm me and I'll help you out. :>
My wife always tells me to think of one good thing each time I get down. Easier said than done at times, but she does a good job of reminding me :P
Stay away from utter twats and those "happy go lucky", "positive thinker" types too- they always cause me to get negative with their utter idiocy.
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Celton88: My wife always tells me to think of one good thing each time I get down. Easier said than done at times, but she does a good job of reminding me :P
[insert euphemism here]
Post edited March 29, 2015 by Sachys
On another note, I think all our thoughts are fleeting, and the only way to sustain them is to dwell on them.

A few examples: on Christmas morning, a kid opens a present and it's just what he wanted! He's so happy he jumps for joy. For a minute. And then it's "Ok, what's next?"

You bring your significant other flowers. He or she then thinks, "Wow, I'm with such a great, loving person. How awesome." Twenty minutes later you get yelled at for not taking out the recycling.

You buy your dream car. It may take a little longer than with everyday things, but eventually it tends to just become a mode of transportation. You've got other things to think about whilst driving rather than how awesome your car is.

A lot has to do with not only what we think, but what we think about what we think and how we choose to respond to what we think, which, I think, ties in to what FT337mZn said.

Sometimes when I'm at work I'll write on a piece of paper "Don't care" and leave it where I can see it. That doesn't mean don't care about what I'm doing, but it reminds me to take things as they are and not get caught up in letting my mind create drama where there is none, or dwell on something I perceive as negative. Not always easy, but at least trying to be aware of your thoughts rather than just thinking them can help.
I found that taking a nap if I feel frustrated or sad really helps, by the time I wake up I feel a lot better and refreshed. :-)
Post edited March 29, 2015 by sxnc
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tinyE: Gee , I wonder what Licurg is going to recommend? XD
One kind of sacrifice or another.
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Sachys: Stay away from utter twats and those "happy go lucky", "positive thinker" types too- they always cause me to get negative with their utter idiocy.
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Celton88: My wife always tells me to think of one good thing each time I get down. Easier said than done at times, but she does a good job of reminding me :P
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Sachys: [insert euphemism here]
lol and I was just telling her how mature this forum was!
Meditation, and prayer to my God, the Biblical God. My best wishes for all of us, living beings against self-loathing!!
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DieRuhe: ... but it reminds me to take things as they are and not get caught up in letting my mind create drama where there is none, or dwell on something I perceive as negative.
You touched on something very important here, namely that most pain is essentially self-created. Quoting Eckhart Tolle here freely: "Most people's unhappiness is not created by circumstances, but by their mind's interpretation of these circumstances". My background with negative thinking is a depression. At the time I was depressed, it seemed to me that my whole life perspective was just getting dimmer. This seemed to be a completely objective *fact* to me. This basically made my analytical mind from a tool into a weapon for self-harm. Only after I got out of the depression I could see how much of my "life situation" was just stuff my mind made up or twisted.
Post edited March 29, 2015 by FT337mZn