The sad thing is, looking at the success of all those other crappy micro-transaction games, this probably is the best way for them to make a lot of money. :/

Agreed. The plethora of stupid-but-profitable microtransactional apps out there shows that this is the current gold rush. Though they may have missed their window, since the game is no longer new and thus doesn't have the same cachet as the next hot thing.

Who the hell plays this micro-transaction stuff, anyway? Kids?
I don't know. I'm really curious. If anyone has solid data concerning this new trend, please inform me. I'd like to see some study about this but I've never managed to find one.

If someone is given a refund, they have the option to use that money to buy the game on Steam. I don't think GOG should ever get in the business of providing Steam keys, even in a situation like this.

Yes, a lot of it is the "not my money" bracket of kids with allowances, who don't grasp the value of money and see it simply as a minor thing standing in the way of 30 seconds of pleasure in owning some new trivial thing. However, I would guess there are a fair number of adults with equally poor value judgement and impulse control contributing to the trend.

The only IAPs I make are buying new levels, such as in Monument Valley. Basically proper content DLC.

Minors ( with their parents' credit cards ), "casual gamers", people with more money than sense... ? Personally I'm OK with DLC, as long as it has a reasonable price/value ratio. But in-app transactions would completely ruin the game experience for me. ( "You've discovered an epic treasure chest! Please enter your credit card data to proceed." )

In any case, most GOG users probably don't qualify for their new target audience, hence why we're no longer of interest to the devs.

Lucky kids! :/
Back when I was a child I had to play only pirated games, because my parents wouldn't give me $$$ to buy them.

Thanks for the info, IAmSinistar and CharlesGrey

Edit: Glorious double post! Thanks GOG forum. :P

It's always the dev's fault. But it's GOG's users who end up with an abandoned game on GOG. And thus it's GOG's problem! I doubt that the vast majority of GOG's users are idealistic people who fight "the DRM free war" and just want to support GOG. I guess most people are just here to buy games. And they'll spend their money elsewhere if GOG isn't able to deliver complete and patched games.

That's exactly what I'm doing. I just purchase my new games on Steam. Why I'm here? Well... Maybe I'm here to let GOG know, why someone who spent €310,86 (according to Orders & Settings page) in 2015 here, doesn't buy any games here anymore!? I only spent €11,98 in 2016 on GOG - and that was for gifts on the 2nd of February! It's called "Feedback". I don't just leave. I let GOG know WHY I leave. If they mange to fix this problem, I'll gladly return and buy my games here again.

And yes, they CAN fix it. Not with a shotgun, but with a contract! Let devs sign that they fucking HAVE TO deliver available patches, content updates and DLC. If they don't want to sign that they're not going to leave GOG customers with an abandoned version of their game, it might even be better to "miss out" on their game.

As a side note, I guess people can now legitimately say that GOG sells abandonware, though of a slightly different sort than the term usually applies to.

Ah, sorry, my bad. My eyes seemed to skip over the "refunds" part in your previous post. [/embarrassed]
Anyway, I agree that refunds should be given. :-)

So what happened? Did the game become sour or something? Is it too old a game now? You can only play games when they are brand-new?

All that vitriole over Final Cut... yet it did arrive to GOG, albeit delayed. So you were not stuck with anything, especially as the publisher was willing to provide you a Steam key if you really were in a hurry to play the Final Cut version.

Anyway, I guess we won't be seeing you anymore in the GOG forums, right? I heard GOG forums suck too.

Even though GOG actually fulfilled the promise in that case.

So how do they "force" developers to do that? It is idiotic to suggest GOG should come up with some nonsense clauses like "if a Steam update doesn't come to GOG during the same day, then the publisher will lose any profits from their games sold on GOG" or some such bs. NO PUBLISHER WOULD ACCEPT SUCH A CLAUSE, PERIOD. You'd have to be very stupid to think they would.

Also, you make it sound like most GOG games are missing updates or DLCs, which is complete bullshit of course. Yes quite often they come later than in Steam, so if getting them ASAP is of utter importance to you, then I guess Steam it is. I am not as impatient, I play games at my own time.

Actually, most wanted their money back even after the patches, the two day delay was mostly an excuse.

Funny, I do have DRM-free Final Cut in my GOG account right now. So I didn't "end up" with anything.

I also think you put far too much blame on GOG on this one. It is the publishers you should be blaming.

Now you are being a bit of an asshole with that statement.

Look, I get it, you don't care about DRM. Good for you.

But claiming that those who do are some kind of "idealistic people who fight the war" or "a religious nutcase who buys games here to support GOG and the DRM free bullshit revolution" is just bullshit. I buy DRM-free games because they are of much more value to me than games which will disappear when the store/service disappeares.

I hope that is now clear to you.

what the hell happened again here ? (sorry, i just read the article and react to it, though i yet didnt read all the 11 pages of posts before, sorry)

some shady stuff already happened before on gog (like strike suit zero dissapearing/changing/coming back, like van hellsing final cut, and other surprising "incidents")

but what the hell is it about here ? devs from armello think their dlc won't sell on gog communauty ? hell, there are already quite a few indies and ancient AAA games with separate purchasable DLCs in the catalog, hell even SOUNDTRACKS (the kind of things we were used to expect as goodies included in the package for us)

And so far it seems those DLCs, deluxe editions and separate soundtracks still get bought here.

Regarding armello online/multiplayer functionalities, i can understand, because the steamworks framework is very different from a drm-free environnement, regarding the features and possibilities and especially the interconnection with one's steam account to unified API.
so, GOG customers using armello cant expect getting such features yet (would require galaxy to grow, improve and step out of beta)

But DLCs adding CONTENT ? (like new rulesets, characters, powers, cards and such) HELL WTF ! I yet cant figure ANYTHING that wouldnt be technically possible despite being in DRM environment. Other games do offer DLCs that add such content, here...

So, i'm sorry but i'll assume that Armello's devs are taking the darkside road, thinking DRM-Free = risk and loss sales, and/or worse, those folks from Armello are slowly becoming as outrageous and despicable as those from Gremlin Inc (most of the BS were deleted or censored by now, but from what i could have heard from a comrade, and read myself, the attitude of Gremlin Inc's devs towards GOG/other DRM-free communauties and customers were just making me nauseous... try to search for lost undeleted trails about it for a good laugh)

I really would like either a GOG spokeperson or an Armello dev's spokeperson coming here and disclose openly and honnestly the real reasons behind this nonsense situation... because keeping themselves mouth shut will only leave us thinking about the worst scenarios (or scenarii if you insist)

I'm kind of dissapointed to say the least, and i'm becoming more and more suspicious and defiant from now on...

I doubt this is the first, don't deep silver do the same, release their games here then abandons them.

just read the link someone posted... DLC content 4 new heroes and 4 rings... Seriously ? aside frorm the price (10$ being a bit overpricy), this is the kind of content that DOESNT justify the need to be only within a DRM environment...

Such content could technically be possible to add to base game despite being drm free; i dont see the "benefit" of steam for such additions to the game

Verdict: Full Bullshit'o'meter !

Enjoy your diner with folks from Gremlins Inc. studio

By now, one of the FEW gestures Armello devs/publishers could do to demonstrate real good faith (and not just typical bollocks PR language) would be to provide a steam key for the game FOR FREE to ALL the PREVIOUS customers on gog of the old version (i mean not the new "officially crippled" one released today)

That, or you could come and explain with more disclosure... Because right now you look very shady !