I wouldn't go below 3200MHz RAM for Ryzen, especially gen 3. You can always sell your old one.

Now what is this I read about problems with 32GB of RAM with these?! Is it really better to use 4*8GB instead of 2*16GB. I am terrible at searching so could not come up with much useful information. I would not be amused if I bought 32GB of a bit better RAM and then pushed down to run it at 2400MHz 18-20-20-48 2T.

Maybe I will just get 2*8GB then and add more later when the need arises. I will have to pick a motherboard with four DIMM slots then.

2400 is absolutely going to limit performance somewhat, but I'd like to put off upgrading my RAM until I get a new mobo. There are very few officially supported 3200Mhz chips for my mobo and only a couple that are easy to buy, and googling those resulted in stories of them not being stable above 2666 anyway. I'll probably wait a few months and try to get a good Newegg combo on better mobo and 3600 RAM, unless the 3600x is acting up without it.

This is a life lesson kids. When I upgraded 2 years ago I went VERY cheap because I thought I was mostly done with gaming and it was a brief revisit. I ended up really diving back in though, and now I have to upgrade all that cheap crap again. Go quality the first time, and stay in school.

Not surprising but RAM in stock is getting scarce and prices started climbing a bit again.



Kind of off-topic: 5-6 times higher price for RAM for Macintosh?! That is robbery.

Those new X570 mobos are looking pretty awesome. When I get my build together, that's the plan.

Yeah, I'll probably get an X570 with 32GB of fast RAM later this year. Then I should be set for a good long while, with maybe a GPU upgrade a year or so after the new consoles.

And now for the €100 question:
Will there be, and when in that case, B550 motherboards? I know that those who know are to keep quiet but I still would very much like to know.

Not until next Spring from what I have read. I doubt PCIE 4.0 will matter for a long time though, so maybe a 450 is fine for you? I have a 350 and it runs my Ryzen 3600 just fine. Faster SSDs might be more important once the new consoles come out though, not sure those run on 350/450s.

Some say Q4 2019. others say Q1 2020. I think they´ll aim for 2020.

I've read they'll start shipping the chipset to motherboard manufacturers around Q4 2019 and will probably be on the market in Q1 2020. I was planning to wait for B550 mobos myself, but when I've heard I have to wait at least another 6 months for them... I was like, NOPE, a B450 will do just fine!

I recommend you to get one of the MSI's MAX motherboards, especially B450 TOMAHAWK MAX or B450M MORTAR MAX, if you need an mATX board. These have very good VRM, if you don't intend to do some extreme overclocking.

What features do you think you'll need from B550? Do you plan to overclock? Besides PCIE 4.0 and maybe a better VRM, I don't think is anything worthy over the 400 series. NVMe SSDs on PCIE 3.0 x4 are still insanely fast, with transfer rates a bit over 3000 MB/s. Any feature that is not hardware based, it is now supported through the AGESA BIOS.

If anyone is going MSI B450 definitely make sure to get the MAX version- unfortunately the older versions frequently have problems with the 3000 series compatible BIOS.

I cannot figure out whether to remove or keep the steel plate under the processor and the steel bars holding that on the top beside the processor. I have a Ryzen 3600X that comes with the Wraith Spire cooler that I plan to stick with.

EDIT: Finally found the answer after three hours: Backplate stays, the two thingies on the top side have to be removed.
Also, better install the cooler before installing the motherboard in the case as it is hard to see to hit those screw holes. <takes out motherboard again cursing>

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Also, if it is true that the next generation of consoles will have eight cores with simultaneous multi-threading (so sixteen threads) I feel like I just bought the wrong processor :-( as mine only comes with six cores.

It's been confirmed apparently, yes, 8 core, 16 thread...which now means multithreading is going to become more common in games most likely. Though I'd wait for actual official release events to be certain on anything. The PS5 is meant to be base clocked at 3.2G, so slightly underclocked to increase yields and lower heat and power.

I went old gen for my recent Ryzen build, and sadly as i was going for m-iTX my choices for mobo were basically one: an MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC. This is because i also needed 100% Windows 7 compatibility and that board was the only one that the manufacturer stated that for.

The parts were:

Case: Fractal Design Core 500
Mobo: MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 (65W) @ 3.2Ghz (on a discount a few months back, just £120 and what pushed the build)
RAM: 16GB(2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000 MHz C16
PSU: Seasonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550W
SSD: Samsung MZ-76E500B/EU 500 GB 860 EVO
DVD: ASUS DRW-24D5MT

All worked perfectly well together and i'm currently using my old 750Ti card while i wait for a good deal on a GTX 1660 or 1660Ti. The final configuration will be a dual boot Linux Mint/Windows 7 build, as it currently is a non OS installed state, but works fine.

how can an motherboard not run windows 7, unless its less its like more than 10 years old, all modern motheboards should run 7+