Posted May 04, 2016
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Posted May 04, 2016
snowkatt: lets just get the internet thing working shall we ?
ill have to dig up that tp link thing later
Speaking of which,.. TL-WN722N right here. ill have to dig up that tp link thing later
Intel wifi also works out of the box, across all laptops I had so far.
Broadcom,hmm tough luck with drivers. :/
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
Post edited May 04, 2016 by Lin545
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Posted May 04, 2016
Looking at your specs, you might want to upgrade to more RAM which should help with the sluggishness. See if prices on your memory have dropped to make it reasonable to upgrade it.
I did that with a laptop and found the memory was on clearance. It helped out a great deal since I only had the original minimum RAM requirements installed by the factory.
I did that with a laptop and found the memory was on clearance. It helped out a great deal since I only had the original minimum RAM requirements installed by the factory.
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Posted May 04, 2016
chadjenofsky: Looking at your specs, you might want to upgrade to more RAM which should help with the sluggishness. See if prices on your memory have dropped to make it reasonable to upgrade it.
I did that with a laptop and found the memory was on clearance. It helped out a great deal since I only had the original minimum RAM requirements installed by the factory.
actually it was windows 7 that was sluggish on that machine I did that with a laptop and found the memory was on clearance. It helped out a great deal since I only had the original minimum RAM requirements installed by the factory.
xubuntu was hilariously snappy on just the live dvd
parole is a shite video player though and it face plants if i fast forward ( though that might be the weedy specs its a bloody netbook in specs after all probably not even that )
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Posted May 04, 2016
chadjenofsky: Looking at your specs, you might want to upgrade to more RAM which should help with the sluggishness. See if prices on your memory have dropped to make it reasonable to upgrade it.
I did that with a laptop and found the memory was on clearance. It helped out a great deal since I only had the original minimum RAM requirements installed by the factory.
snowkatt: actually it was windows 7 that was sluggish on that machine I did that with a laptop and found the memory was on clearance. It helped out a great deal since I only had the original minimum RAM requirements installed by the factory.
xubuntu was hilariously snappy on just the live dvd
parole is a shite video player though and it face plants if i fast forward ( though that might be the weedy specs its a bloody netbook in specs after all probably not even that )
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Posted May 04, 2016
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dtgreene: Of note, Debian Stable does have one notable disadvantage: It might not have drivers for really new hardware. In snowkatt's case, that shouldn't be a problem, but if you just bought a brand new laptop, you may want to run something with more up-to-date software at first, like Debian Testing. (You can continue using that version after it freezes and later becomes stable.)
Lin545: Hm. No. One can use backported kernel. This also includes software. Debian testing should really not be tampered into, it breaks from time to time. Horribly. It should not be used without apt-listbugs and knowing the way around with package pinning.
Debian unstable, however, does completely break from time to time. (I know because I used to run it on my old desktop for many years.)
A kernel backport will indeed work, as the kernel doesn't depend on any of the other software in the system, and Linus Torvalds has a strict "do not break userspace" policy when it comes to kernel development. (He has even "yelled" (as much as can be conveyed via e-mail) at developers for breaking this policy.)
snowkatt: lets just get the internet thing working shall we ?
ill have to dig up that tp link thing later
One other thing: ill have to dig up that tp link thing later
If you can find a Linux Live CD on which your internet works, you can chroot into the live system and, from there, install the packages you need.
(Was the Internet working in the installer?)
Post edited May 04, 2016 by dtgreene
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Posted May 04, 2016
dtgreene: I believe debian testing is actually not supposed to break.
Debian unstable, however, does completely break from time to time. (I know because I used to run it on my old desktop for many years.)
A kernel backport will indeed work, as the kernel doesn't depend on any of the other software in the system, and Linus Torvalds has a strict "do not break userspace" policy when it comes to kernel development. (He has even "yelled" (as much as can be conveyed via e-mail) at developers for breaking this policy.)
Yeah, I believed that too for quite a long time, but then KDE4 to 5 transition broke whole desktop irreversably on the package dep. level. Few weeks later GCC5 transition again broke stuff. The only thing people on Debian IRC were doing was issuing warnings to those who already had a problem. Debian unstable, however, does completely break from time to time. (I know because I used to run it on my old desktop for many years.)
A kernel backport will indeed work, as the kernel doesn't depend on any of the other software in the system, and Linus Torvalds has a strict "do not break userspace" policy when it comes to kernel development. (He has even "yelled" (as much as can be conveyed via e-mail) at developers for breaking this policy.)
So Debian Testing is just that. Testing.
Typical Gentoo install has better chances to recover than Debian Testing, because if something happens, there is no easy way to go back.
Debian Stable rolls pretty good and migrating to newer version is also painless. There are backports for open graphics stack, so no real reason to not to prefer it for stable reliable desktop.
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Posted May 05, 2016
So, do you find your to link?
Another option would be getting a crossed lan cable and connect your notebook to modem directly. It usually do the trick
Another option would be getting a crossed lan cable and connect your notebook to modem directly. It usually do the trick
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Posted May 05, 2016
snowkatt: as mentioned somewhere else on here i have a 10 year old laptop that was happily running windows 7
it has the usual 10 year old laptop things
a celeron M410 1,46 GHZ
2 gig of ram
an intel gma 950 video card ( bleugh )
60 gig hd
dvd writer
all in all not a power house and probably on the level of a netbook ( there is a point to all this )
i am not doing anything with it so on a whim i downloaded a flavor of buntu and went for xubuntu ( kinda wish i didnt i dont like the interface )
and after installing i found out the bloody thing cant connect to the internet which is kinda important for drivers and software
parole media player face plants when i fast forward
the ethernet port doesnt work
but it has a wifi card a broadcom it seems and thats all i know about it ( hooray ! )
so where and how do i get a driver for this bloody thing ?
i should have gone for mint shouldnt i ?
OK, I did some tests on a Celeron laptop, with an Intel graphics adapter, and a Broadcom BCM4312 wireless chip, testing both Mint 17.3 (MATE and Cinnamon editions) and Lubuntu. it has the usual 10 year old laptop things
a celeron M410 1,46 GHZ
2 gig of ram
an intel gma 950 video card ( bleugh )
60 gig hd
dvd writer
all in all not a power house and probably on the level of a netbook ( there is a point to all this )
i am not doing anything with it so on a whim i downloaded a flavor of buntu and went for xubuntu ( kinda wish i didnt i dont like the interface )
and after installing i found out the bloody thing cant connect to the internet which is kinda important for drivers and software
parole media player face plants when i fast forward
the ethernet port doesnt work
but it has a wifi card a broadcom it seems and thats all i know about it ( hooray ! )
so where and how do i get a driver for this bloody thing ?
i should have gone for mint shouldnt i ?
At first, the Broadcom wireless was not working, due to the lack of driver, however it was recognised in Lubuntu's "Additional Driver" section, and Mint's "Driver Manager".
The TP-Link Mini Wireless N USB adapter I tried worked without any problems and was recognised immediately.
It would appear that the missing element for the Broadcom wireless device was a package called "BCMWL-kernel-source" since once I had a working Internet connection, thanks to the TP-Link adapter, I was able to go to the various driver installation sections in both distros and install the required Broadcom driver. After that, the TP-Link adapter could be safely removed since the laptop was operating just fine using the Broadcom wireless.
For your information, the driver install application for Lubuntu is located under "Preferences -> Additional Drivers".
For Mint, should you wish to try that, I simply went to "All Programs -> Driver Manager".
Hope my investigations help you get up and running fairly soon! :-)
EDIT: And it would seem that Mint might possibly be the better choice for you, since when I double-checked what was on my Mint DVD, it would seem that the required Broadcom driver source was actually included on the DVD. If you get a Mint distro, and want to check before installing, mount the DVD on another OS, and look under "pool/main/b" -- there should be a package labelled "bcmwl-kernel-source_xxx".
Post edited May 05, 2016 by blakstar
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Posted May 05, 2016
snowkatt: as mentioned somewhere else on here i have a 10 year old laptop that was happily running windows 7
it has the usual 10 year old laptop things
a celeron M410 1,46 GHZ
2 gig of ram
an intel gma 950 video card ( bleugh )
60 gig hd
dvd writer
all in all not a power house and probably on the level of a netbook ( there is a point to all this )
i am not doing anything with it so on a whim i downloaded a flavor of buntu and went for xubuntu ( kinda wish i didnt i dont like the interface )
and after installing i found out the bloody thing cant connect to the internet which is kinda important for drivers and software
parole media player face plants when i fast forward
the ethernet port doesnt work
but it has a wifi card a broadcom it seems and thats all i know about it ( hooray ! )
so where and how do i get a driver for this bloody thing ?
i should have gone for mint shouldnt i ?
blakstar: OK, I did some tests on a Celeron laptop, with an Intel graphics adapter, and a Broadcom BCM4312 wireless chip, testing both Mint 17.3 (MATE and Cinnamon editions) and Lubuntu. it has the usual 10 year old laptop things
a celeron M410 1,46 GHZ
2 gig of ram
an intel gma 950 video card ( bleugh )
60 gig hd
dvd writer
all in all not a power house and probably on the level of a netbook ( there is a point to all this )
i am not doing anything with it so on a whim i downloaded a flavor of buntu and went for xubuntu ( kinda wish i didnt i dont like the interface )
and after installing i found out the bloody thing cant connect to the internet which is kinda important for drivers and software
parole media player face plants when i fast forward
the ethernet port doesnt work
but it has a wifi card a broadcom it seems and thats all i know about it ( hooray ! )
so where and how do i get a driver for this bloody thing ?
i should have gone for mint shouldnt i ?
At first, the Broadcom wireless was not working, due to the lack of driver, however it was recognised in Lubuntu's "Additional Driver" section, and Mint's "Driver Manager".
The TP-Link Mini Wireless N USB adapter I tried worked without any problems and was recognised immediately.
It would appear that the missing element for the Broadcom wireless device was a package called "BCMWL-kernel-source" since once I had a working Internet connection, thanks to the TP-Link adapter, I was able to go to the various driver installation sections in both distros and install the required Broadcom driver. After that, the TP-Link adapter could be safely removed since the laptop was operating just fine using the Broadcom wireless.
For your information, the driver install application for Lubuntu is located under "Preferences -> Additional Drivers".
For Mint, should you wish to try that, I simply went to "All Programs -> Driver Manager".
Hope my investigations help you get up and running fairly soon! :-)
(finding the bloody tp link was more work then getting it to work) xubuntu immediately reconigsed it
i am now considering what to do with it
should i stay with xubuntu its working but i dont care for its UI
go to kubuntu ( the one i orginally wanted )
or give lubuntu a go ?
hmm decisions decisions
in the end i will either go for mint or reinstall windows 7 to see how many old games things thing can run no doubt
(to be honest i think mint is my best option )
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Posted May 05, 2016
blakstar: OK, I did some tests on a Celeron laptop, with an Intel graphics adapter, and a Broadcom BCM4312 wireless chip, testing both Mint 17.3 (MATE and Cinnamon editions) and Lubuntu.
At first, the Broadcom wireless was not working, due to the lack of driver, however it was recognised in Lubuntu's "Additional Driver" section, and Mint's "Driver Manager".
The TP-Link Mini Wireless N USB adapter I tried worked without any problems and was recognised immediately.
It would appear that the missing element for the Broadcom wireless device was a package called "BCMWL-kernel-source" since once I had a working Internet connection, thanks to the TP-Link adapter, I was able to go to the various driver installation sections in both distros and install the required Broadcom driver. After that, the TP-Link adapter could be safely removed since the laptop was operating just fine using the Broadcom wireless.
For your information, the driver install application for Lubuntu is located under "Preferences -> Additional Drivers".
For Mint, should you wish to try that, I simply went to "All Programs -> Driver Manager".
Hope my investigations help you get up and running fairly soon! :-)
snowkatt: well i got it to work At first, the Broadcom wireless was not working, due to the lack of driver, however it was recognised in Lubuntu's "Additional Driver" section, and Mint's "Driver Manager".
The TP-Link Mini Wireless N USB adapter I tried worked without any problems and was recognised immediately.
It would appear that the missing element for the Broadcom wireless device was a package called "BCMWL-kernel-source" since once I had a working Internet connection, thanks to the TP-Link adapter, I was able to go to the various driver installation sections in both distros and install the required Broadcom driver. After that, the TP-Link adapter could be safely removed since the laptop was operating just fine using the Broadcom wireless.
For your information, the driver install application for Lubuntu is located under "Preferences -> Additional Drivers".
For Mint, should you wish to try that, I simply went to "All Programs -> Driver Manager".
Hope my investigations help you get up and running fairly soon! :-)
(finding the bloody tp link was more work then getting it to work) xubuntu immediately reconigsed it
i am now considering what to do with it
should i stay with xubuntu its working but i dont care for its UI
go to kubuntu ( the one i orginally wanted )
or give lubuntu a go ?
hmm decisions decisions
in the end i will either go for mint or reinstall windows 7 to see how many old games things thing can run no doubt
(to be honest i think mint is my best option )
EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention it, but I think Kubuntu might be a little heavy for your machine.
Post edited May 05, 2016 by blakstar
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Posted May 05, 2016
blakstar: I added a little addition to my post regarding Mint and the Broadcom driver. See my post above.
EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention it, but I think Kubuntu might be a little heavy for your machine.
well thats settled then mint it is EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention it, but I think Kubuntu might be a little heavy for your machine.
i dont mind usb wifi sticks but this machine only has 2 usb ports
xubuntu so far runs fine better then windows 7 but this is a different hd
the original 80 gig hd was rather sluggish
dtgreene
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Posted May 05, 2016
One question: What is wrong with my first post in this topic? In particular, why is it "low rated"?
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Posted May 08, 2016
blakstar: I added a little addition to my post regarding Mint and the Broadcom driver. See my post above.
EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention it, but I think Kubuntu might be a little heavy for your machine.
snowkatt: well thats settled then mint it is EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention it, but I think Kubuntu might be a little heavy for your machine.
i dont mind usb wifi sticks but this machine only has 2 usb ports
xubuntu so far runs fine better then windows 7 but this is a different hd
the original 80 gig hd was rather sluggish
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