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Fallout 3 is an awful RPG because every character ends up playing the same, invalidating the player's choices. Because it is impossible not to max out the least worthless stats, all that matters is the amount of time invested in the game, not the player's choices. For the terrible, train wreck-esque people that play timesink games for escapism (lol me lolol) Fallout 3 has IMER-SHUN going for it if you avoid the terrible AI, which I couldn't. The writing is awful as well. "I'm looking for my father. Middle-aged guy...oops, that's half the population of the wasteland." If you are a boring person, you will like this game.
Strix, when it comes to explaining why Fallout 3 is awful, you have done an awful job. I cringe at your obvious, crippling social diseases. You must be sealed beneath the Earth, because that sounds like a cool thing to do (I helped to design Fallout 3, you see).
More importantly, the word that you are looking for is "precedent," not "president." At no point in any of the Fallout games can the player follow the leader of the Enclave. In Fallout 2 and Fallout 3, you self-destruct the President's secret base, because Bethesda is unable to write their own story.
The only good thing to come out of Fallout 3 is my avatar.
Post edited September 05, 2009 by Swiftjowls
Fallout 3 is very similar to TES 4: oblivion, wich is the worst RPG i've ever played.
the same, lame engine, this f*cked up level-scaling, no open-ended gameplay in Fallout 3 and it doesn't matter wich skills you choose or max out... you'll end up beating the game even at level one anyway...
Post edited September 06, 2009 by ThermioN
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ThermioN: Fallout 3 is very similar to TES 4: oblivion, wich is the worst RPG i've ever played.
the same, lame engine, this f*cked up level-scaling, no open-ended gameplay in Fallout 3 and it doesn't matter wich skills you choose or max out... you'll end up beating the game even at level one anyway...

Dude most fantasy RPG'S are level driven ...Fallout 3 its a post apocalyptical world therefore you not a freaking elf you have no real level so yeah you beat the game at level 1 so?
Oblivion is not bad its a great game it just doesnt stand out that much.
Both games are open worlds where you pretty much do w.e you want whenever you want
(thats awesome).Level scaling its a great system from a point of view >.>
and its not that different from Fallout no game can be perfect just appreciate the good side
And whats the best RPG you ever played cause Oblivion is awesome on soooo many levels -.-
I blame the public school system. Their failure is the only possible explanation for positive reviews of either Oblivion or Fallout 3.
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DAEvo: I blame the public school system. Their failure is the only possible explanation for positive reviews of either Oblivion or Fallout 3.

actually i think its the parents fault for buying them all the next gen crap. Id love to see these kids on an old nintendo. We all would enjoy it(heck i still play nes games every once in a while) but for these kids it would probably be torture.
Post edited September 21, 2009 by razvan252
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zstrifer: And whats the best RPG you ever played cause Oblivion is awesome on soooo many levels -.-

i think the best RPG i've ever played was TES 3: Morrowind. it just had it all: big world to explore, open ended gameplay, no level-scaling bullshit, tons of mods (i know, oblivion has many great mods too), kick ass gameplay, etc... and i'm still playin it since it was released.
what i don't like about oblivion (and fallout 3 aswell), is that you're very limitided in your actions/decisions (like killing quest related NPCs) and you also don't have to search for specific places or NPCs, because you always have a damn compass telling you where to go. those two games are great for casual gamers, but not for fans of the franchise (atleast not for me...).
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zstrifer: And whats the best RPG you ever played cause Oblivion is awesome on soooo many levels -.-
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ThermioN: i think the best RPG i've ever played was TES 3: Morrowind. it just had it all: big world to explore, open ended gameplay, no level-scaling bullshit, tons of mods (i know, oblivion has many great mods too), kick ass gameplay, etc... and i'm still playin it since it was released.
what i don't like about oblivion (and fallout 3 aswell), is that you're very limitided in your actions/decisions (like killing quest related NPCs) and you also don't have to search for specific places or NPCs, because you always have a damn compass telling you where to go. those two games are great for casual gamers, but not for fans of the franchise (atleast not for me...).

Morrowind is a great game but it is also pretty shitty towards you at times. That you need certain stats to advance in a guild is lame especially if you can actually accomplish the quests since they were actually hard but no you have to have 80 something in a bunch of skills you never use. That was something Oblivion fixed but I do agree that Morrowind was the better game but it was far from perfect though I loved the music far more in Morrowind whereas Oblivion seemed kind of meh at times.
As to Fallout 3 I actually quite enjoyed it but only because I went in not expecting Fallout 1 and 2. Was it perfect? Hell no it was buggy and at times game breaking. Was it fun compared to some of the crap pumped out recently ? Sure as hell. I mean the last RPG I really got into was The Witcher though I heard Neverwinter Nights 2 was pretty good as well but I haven't picked it up.
I think Fallout 3 is a fantastic game. Not necessarily a great role playing game, but it is a very good game in its own right. And truth be told, it's really not a bad role playing game, either.
I don't know how it compares to Fallout and Fallout 2 because I've never played them (I recently bought each, so I will be playing them very soon), but judged on its own merits, it stands up very well in my opinion.
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MountainMan: I think Fallout 3 is a fantastic game. Not necessarily a great role playing game, but it is a very good game in its own right. And truth be told, it's really not a bad role playing game, either.

thats true. for the 5 dollar bin section anyway...
Fallout 3 is actually a big turd thats been wrapped in nice paper(the graphics). Once you get past that it really begins to stink.
Well obviously I disagree. As someone noted, Fallout 3 is one of those "love it/hate it" games. I happen to love it.
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MountainMan: Well obviously I disagree. As someone noted, Fallout 3 is one of those "love it/hate it" games. I happen to love it.

Love it but please, dont spread that love, keep it to yourself.
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MountainMan: Well obviously I disagree. As someone noted, Fallout 3 is one of those "love it/hate it" games. I happen to love it.
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razvan252: Love it but please, dont spread that love, keep it to yourself.

And yet it's O.K. for you to spread your "hate"? Yeah, that's not hypocritical. :D
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MountainMan: I think Fallout 3 is a fantastic game.

No. Just no. >_<
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MountainMan: Well obviously I disagree. As someone noted, Fallout 3 is one of those "love it/hate it" games. I happen to love it.

That actually confirms that love is blind.
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MountainMan: Well obviously I disagree. As someone noted, Fallout 3 is one of those "love it/hate it" games. I happen to love it.
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Summit: That actually confirms that love is blind.

And has no taste.