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Post edited February 27, 2009 by ZeGlobox
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ZeGlobox: Duke3D can be (legally) downloaded on every abandonware website.. how come GOG is selling it ?

Incorrect. Duke3D can be downloaded on abandonware websites. But not legally. Apogee/3D Realms still own the rights, and those sites aren't licensed to be providing copies of the game.
Abandonware is not a legally defensible position. It's just a tradition among the Internet.
yeah, Duke was never abandonware.
Gog is selling it so that 3D Realms can feed their children tonight. Not so that cheeky little pirates like yourself can download DN3D for yourself.
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ZeGlobox: Duke3D can be (legally) downloaded on every abandonware website.. how come GOG is selling it ?
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Vertelemming: Incorrect. Duke3D can be downloaded on abandonware websites. But not legally. Apogee/3D Realms still own the rights, and those sites aren't licensed to be providing copies of the game.
Abandonware is not a legally defensible position. It's just a tradition among the Internet.

I gotta add that 3D Realms is still selling it through their distribution service (had to buy a copy few months ago).
3D Realms never stopped selling Duke Nukem 3D.
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Post edited February 27, 2009 by ZeGlobox
bla bla bla bla professional bla bla bla bla bla pirate bla bla bla bla
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TheJoe: Gog is selling it so that 3D Realms can feed their children tonight. Not so that cheeky little pirates like yourself can download DN3D for yourself.
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ZeGlobox: LOL..
me being a professionnal game developper (and just so you know, I've already bought 6 games on GOG), it's kinda funny you're calling me a pirate... ;-)
I just found out it wasn't abandonware : although it's available on my favourite abandonware websites, but i just figured out it was the demo version.. duh !should have checked more seriously, my bad !
abandonware != legal
Abandonware as a term is load of bull anyway. Just because a publisher or a developer refuses to do a reprint of their old games, it doesn't you can go and download illegal copies of it.
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ZeGlobox: LOL..
me being a professionnal game developper (and just so you know, I've already bought 6 games on GOG), it's kinda funny you're calling me a pirate... ;-)
I just found out it wasn't abandonware : although it's available on my favourite abandonware websites, but i just figured out it was the demo version.. duh !should have checked more seriously, my bad !
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Weclock: abandonware != legal

I'm sorry, but some serious abandonware sites ask permission before making anygame available to download.. so personnally, I think it's pretty legit.
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TheJoe: bla bla bla bla professional bla bla bla bla bla pirate bla bla bla bla

O_o
I can assure you that I AM a professionnal game developper...
aren't there any MPs on this forum so I can prove it to you ?
Post edited February 26, 2009 by ZeGlobox
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Weclock: abandonware != legal
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ZeGlobox: I'm sorry, but some serious abandonware sites ask permission before making anygame available to download.. so personnally, I think it's pretty legit.
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TheJoe: bla bla bla bla professional bla bla bla bla bla pirate bla bla bla bla

O_o
I can assure you that I AM a professionnal game developper...
aren't there any MPs on this forum so I can prove it to you ?
If it's the case that they asked for permission, then the game isn't abandonware, it's free.
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ZeGlobox: I'm sorry, but some serious abandonware sites ask permission before making anygame available to download.. so personnally, I think it's pretty legit.

But they still distribute games they haven't asked permissions for -- that lowers their creditability to zilch.
He might be confusing "Publicly Released Source" with "Abandonware". Duke's Source has been public for years but its data files haven't - so you could have the game but not the content. Levels, creatures, etc.
Post edited February 26, 2009 by Blackdrazon
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TheJoe: Gog is selling it so that 3D Realms can spend another ten years making Duke Nukem Forever.

Fixed that for ya!