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Remove impossible wishes from GOG's wishlist

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More often than not, people add games that have never seen a PC release on GOG's wishlist (Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, etc). It would be nice that in order to add a game you had to put a source confirming that the game ACTUALLY EXISTS.

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ecamber
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Strongly disagree with this wish. Unless you can somehow give a rigorous proof that the wish is impossible, then the wish should be open so GOG knows how much use there is in working on it.

Aug. 2, 2014
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DrTomo
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I agree, it just clogs up the list of wishes and lets use common sense on the possibility. I have seen stupid ones like Gog should acquire EA or GoG cure cancer.

Also people need to actually use some brain cells regarding console emulation. If Cd Projeckt actually did any "official" work on emulation they would be the target of copy right litigation which is guaranteed to bankrupt them.

Jul. 22, 2014
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Ebany
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I voted for this on impulse, but regret it.
Every person has a different version of impossible, and every person has dreams which shouldn't be shattered dur to their high improbability.

May. 27, 2014
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SpikedSoul
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There have been PC releases (official collections) of many old console games, mainly ATARI and C64... (any of you ever played these? so much fun, even the hardware quirks are emulated in some fashion...) so might be possible for other sixth-generation consoles as well...

Mar. 28, 2014
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joppo
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I see this more as just a case of something being simply out of GOG's scope. Comments below said that "it's not impossible cuz emulators n ports" but IT IS NOT GOG's business to develop either. It's the dev's or IP holder's part. GOG is a store not a game dev.

Mar. 15, 2014
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bulk www.moredz.com nike

Feb. 13, 2014
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jamyskis
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When people say "impossible wishes", it seems to me that this is more born of a "PC master race" mentality who can't fathom that people might want to play games from other platforms other than the PC.

Feb. 12, 2014
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jamyskis
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What bothers me about this "request" is that at least half the votes aren't motivated by features that are wholly impossible, but rather by games that they simply don't want.

You may not want console emulation, but that doesn't make fulfilment impossible by any stretch of the imagination, and it's deceptive and spiteful to claim otherwise.

Feb. 12, 2014
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or at least lock them with a message WwW.anOKEY.cOM

Jan. 30, 2014
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Rob7713
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Rather than removing these completely, put them in a section for "Higly Unlikely to Fulfill". Then, in a sticky at the beginnin/top explain WHY in simple, succinct terms so no one can say that you just don't want to be bothered with "XYZ" game because you don't like it, it is too much trouble, or it is too expensive—unless, of course, that IS why you won't get it. =^_^=

Jan. 28, 2014
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jsjrodman
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Just because some platforms require roms doesn't make it impossible, just less likely.

Emulation has been tested in court many times. It's entirely acceptable to use reverse engineering to generate software to run such code. The exception would be if running the game at all requires circumventing an anti-piracy measure such as the game content being encrypted with a secret key under DMCA and similar laws.

Luckily, that's both a modern thing (Playstation 3/Xbox 360) era, and it's also not how things actually played out. The cryptography methods are used to prevent running of counterfeit games on the the systems, not to allow the software to validate that the systems are valid.

Meanwhile, there are certainly practical issues with running, eg., Apple IIgs software, as no one has worked out licensing rights for the ROM images they provide, but for the extremely popular platforms like SNES and NES, there are no such problems, and even more modern systems like the Game Boy Advance which features a sizable system ROM, the emulation authors have created work-a-like system roms via reverse engineering that allow 98% of titles to run without any system-provider copyrighted materiel.

The point is that platform by platform the actual situation and barriers vary a great deal, and for a number of popular platforms the barriers are low or near-zero, beyond convincing game rights holders to sell their games here.

Jan. 27, 2014
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ansionnach
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Releasing emulated non-PC games is different to using DOSBox. The hardware rights owner would also have to consent to the release (not just each game's rights owner). This is obviously true in cases where system BIOS ROMs are and system software are required by the emulator... and may well be the case for all other systems as well. Unless the system is so old as to be abandoned, or GOG can cut a deal with the guys who own the rights to Amiga, for example, this is a non-runner.

For PC ports of games that don't already have them, why should GOG have to do your port begging for you? It can't be encouraging for GOG that most of the time such features are being requested that what is being asked is completely unreasonable or even impossible.

Jan. 23, 2014
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ElNinyo
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Old console games could be emulated on Windows (or Linux, whenever they add support for it), just like some of the older DOS games. However some other wishes really are impossible to fulfill, e.g. this one...
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/purchase_ea_and_release_their_games_drm_free

Jan. 15, 2014
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jsjrodman
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I'm all for removing impossible wishes, but hte items you mentioned are totally possible.

Jan. 7, 2014
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Xabyos
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A place for Console Games and emulator already exists!
romstation.fr
YES, its france. But once downloaded there software, you can switch to english.

Jan. 5, 2014
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Nobake
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IF they could get the go ahead from publishers, GOG could very well offer older console games. Wouldn't even necessarily require porting, as emulators are common. They already use Dosbox, this is no different.

So it boils down to whether they would want to branch into console titles given publishers' blessing or stay focused on traditional PC titles. Offering console titles would garner a lot of respect from me, but if they don't I certainly wouldn't hold it against them.

Jan. 2, 2014
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emma.fusa
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there should be a negative vote feature

Dec. 21, 2013
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Br00ce
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While I agree that games that don't even exist should not be on the wishlist. I do think that every single console game that people want to wish for should be allowed on GOG.com. Since everyone is using Chrono Trigger as an example, why not let GOG tell Square Enix that there are a TON of PC gamers who would buy Chrono Trigger on PC. A good example would be Sega, If you look on Steam there are a TON of console games made by Sega that have been re-made for the PC and released on Steam. If everyone on GOG voted for those Sega games I guarantee they would release their games on here. It would probably only take them less than a week to remove the Steam DRM and whatever else they have to do and then release them on GOG.com... Come on people, quit saying console games on PC are impossible. Considering that almost every console ever made before the PS3 and XBOX 360 has a near perfect emulator available on the PC, It would be absolutely easy for someone like Square Enix to release Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 on PC. The 972+ people who voted on this are not thinking outside the box!

Dec. 16, 2013
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Aberran
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I disagree with almost anything being impossible they have EA releasing DRM free games. I could see console games coming here. What about consoles long dead. Maybe the 3 or so good games off the Jaguar. Xbox and Dreamcast games sneak late to the show into PC realms. A lot of Download PSN XBLA games eventually come to PC. PC is the most convenient way for me to play my games. The more I can play on one box the better.

Sep. 21, 2013
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Davane
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I understand the frustration here. I agree that only PC titles should be wishlisted, as it is outside of GOG's ability to actually port non-PC titles - that is up to the developers/publishers of the game themselves. Bear in mind that even PC titles are under the control of the developer/publisher, and many such franchise holders like to keep their own games for re-release in collections (such as EA's Command & Conquer: The First Decade). The most GOG can actually do is contact developers/publishers, and let them know exactly how popular their old games are - and maybe with a significant number of votes, these can be the start of negotiations to get such developers to consider porting their games and distributing them via GOG.com

Sep. 20, 2013
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squid830
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Agreed - if the game doesn't actually EXIST, then it shouldn't be here.

I do agree with others below that if people request such things, that a separate list be maintained so that people know not to re-request said game again - because this will keep on happening otherwise!

Aug. 22, 2013
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DRM_free_fan
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Not voting.

An alternative would be to have all threads that request a game which has not had a confirmed PC release be moved to a separate tab/section. This tab would include requests for: console games/requests for ports to PC (e.g. Halo 3), PC games still in production and games that have never been published or planned to (vaporware and wishful thinking).

Aug. 13, 2013
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Zeeaire
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it would be nice to know if a wish is 'impossible' so you wouldn't have to wait so long not knowing if the game will ever be released. plus : there would be a better overview.

Aug. 12, 2013
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hucklebarry
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not only games, but site wishes as well. I appreciate the sense of humor, but it doesn't help the crowded site.

Jul. 30, 2013
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NessAndSonic
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Maybe a better solution would be to put console and PC titles into two separate categories or something. This would mean that console titles would still show up, but console titles and pc titles would be both be given their own separate "rooms," so to speak.

May. 15, 2013
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genericUNDEAD
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This.

I hate that my favorite PC games are buried under console wishlists. So many great PC games could be released, but no, CHRONO TRIGGER!!!!!!!!!!

May. 12, 2013
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IamBJ
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Chrono Trigger is now available on smartphones. Why was bringing it to smartphones plausible, but to PCs impossible? Who is anyone to tell people what games they are allowed to wish for? The wishlist could use a clean up (particularly duplicates), but we definitely don't need this kind of wish policing. And besides, I find it endearing that there's over 1200 votes for Freelancer 2. :P

May. 11, 2013
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TheIRS
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Only if you make it such.

May. 4, 2013
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graspee
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Free Speech is a myth.

May. 4, 2013
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TheIRS
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Why enrage customers by stifling free speech? Customers should be allowed to say whatever ridiculous bull crap they want. After all, they won't always get what they want, and the community tends to ridicule them anyway, so they still have to pay a price for what they say sometimes, so it's not like they don't suffer from any sort of problem for doing so. Besides, it can actually bring to light some decent debate or enlightenment, and some are obvious jokes anyway (like buying Electronic Arts).

May. 4, 2013
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BloodGod65
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I agree. There's far too many wishes that will simply never happen and the clutter obscures more realistic requests.

May. 3, 2013
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Roman5
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Impossible is nothing for GOG

May. 2, 2013
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Robo4900
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I think what should happen to impossible wishes is that they are marked as "Impossible" and voting is disabled.
That way, people don't create more of them.

May. 1, 2013
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NessAndSonic
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@phlum

Emulation is legal as long as the copyrighted bios aren't needed and the games have been legally obtained. Example, PS2 emulation would be out of the question because the only PS2 emulator worth mentioning needs the system's bios. However, Sega Genesis/Mega Drive emulation would be more legal since there are many emulators Genesis/Mega Drive emulators and they don't need Sega's bios.

Apr. 29, 2013
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slayer67
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my bad, I misread

Apr. 24, 2013
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slayer67
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Final Fantasy 7 was on pc. So bad example.

Apr. 24, 2013
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phlum
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Emulation is only technically legal when you own the console itself, so selling an emulator, bundled with a game or not, will probably bring GOG to its knees within a week.
Unless they can license both the emulator and the system it's emulating, of course.

Apr. 13, 2013
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NessAndSonic
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I meant the companies who made the games could port them, not GOG themselves. Again, Sonic Adventure 2 is my main example, but there have been other games ported to systems they weren't planned for. Resident Evil 4 was originally a Gamecube exclusive until Capcom decided to work on a PS2 version. Of course, they outsourced the PC version to Ubisoft, but it does prove a point.

Apr. 10, 2013
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efk
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Porting a game requires that the game be developed for PC, which is outside of the scope of what GOG does, which is to distribute games. Emulating a console game such as Chrono Trigger, while legal, might be outside of the scope of GOG's distribution, which is right now only PC games. You might have better luck asking GOG to expand their scope to becoming a console game distributor, but even that seems a bit far-fetched.

Apr. 2, 2013
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NessAndSonic
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Couldn't the games be ported, though? I mean, Sonic Adventure 2 wasn't originally for PC, but it got ported recently.

Mar. 21, 2013
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Trilarion
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or at least lock them with a message "UNVERIFIED GAME"

Feb. 20, 2013
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DarioGOII
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what about emulating those games on PC? does exist such feature request?

Oct. 10, 2012
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