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Console Games added to GOG.com (using emulators, like with DOS games)

Added bySirCabbage's avatarSirCabbage

Technically, DOS is just another OS that needs to be emulated to make it run. Well, Surely GOG could team up with Znes producers, PsxE, VBA, ect and try and get some console games on GOG. Set them up in such a way that it comes with an inbuilt emulator that runs when you click .exe like has been done with DOSbox, afterall, it is just an emulator. Only downside would be, you could only really add old games, but hey. Surely companies like square enix would love to make money from the huge scene of people who emulate their old content like final fantasy VI.

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nhydock
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@MordredMS One advantage of GoG is the extent that they go for preserving older products. Even though people can easily just go on google and download roms and emulators for free (which they can do the same for any game here on GoG really), getting things like quality PDF scans of game manuals and strategy guides is really precious and awesome to have.

My console game collection a few years ago got damaged by a flood, and a lot of my game manuals and covers have been ruined because of it. I'd totally repurchase a lot of those games on GoG if it meant having all that material back again. Plus, like with the advantage of PSN/Virtual Console/Xbox Live where you can download some older games digitally, in a lot of cases there's plenty of rarer games that you could get for only a few dollars because of it just being roms.

Still, the problem with having console games comes down to more than just the game development studio. For older consoles, like NES and SNES, the console development company had direct say and control over what games could be published on their system. Trying to wrestle rights to have roms on GoG from them would be impossible when they run their own virtual console market.

Only consoles I could see being supported by GoG would be Atari, Intellivision, NeoGeo, some MAME compatible games, and some Sega games possibly up to Dreamcast. Nintendo is out, and so would be Sony exclusives.

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MordredMS
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The idea is great, but I fear it won't happen easily.

First of all, why would retro-gamers who download ROMs and emulators for free want to BUY them? If not for the laziness of not having to rape Google for them, I guess. It would be a risk move for GOG and for publishers alike.

Secondly, if publishers care so little about their back catalogue that they create consoles with no retrocompatibility and let their older games die a slow and miserable death, I'm afraid they wouldn't move much of a finger to bring it back to the marked.

Thirdly, as it has been pointed out already, not all emulators work well with all games. Should GOG let people use whatever emu they like? Or maybe include one with the purchase? Or maybe merely recommend one?

It can be done, it would be awesome if it were done, but unfortunately it isn't simple.

Jul. 24, 2014
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www.bulkinus.com for www.isclearance.com

Jul. 22, 2014
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DanyKing
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And I really love how this wish is #10 of the top voted ever. You can tell people want this :)

Jul. 20, 2014
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DanyKing
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Well, I have the equipment to dump my old games myself, and I tend to buy those games that I missed in my childhood just to dump them and play them in an emulator. I'm a console enthusiast when it comes to older games, and I would definitely love such games on GOG. While I wouldn't need most of the games that I like from this era because I've already dumped them myself, I would seriously consider buying them again just for the extras. A good, official cover image is worth a lot to me and complements a collection. Same goes for a PDF game manual. And if we can get the soundtracks, that'd be even better!

Jul. 20, 2014
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Luieburger
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Sure I'd be happy to pay for ROMs. It's really an untapped market. Either you have to use a Wii or GC disk in your drive, or you have to download ROMs illegally.

Is this the start of iTunes for old console games?

Jul. 16, 2014
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localfreak
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I'm in two minds about this, one one hand there are lots of emulators out there and you'd need to have a choice of which to use (A lot of games run we;ll in one but not another) on the other hand... If GOG could get an in house team to create their own emulator for said games that worked flawlessly this could be a winning idea.

The only problem then I think would be that there are so many publishers of console games that no longer exist and the big guys most probably won't be interested.

Jul. 2, 2014
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Jeffry84
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I am for the idea, though I would prefer to download the ROM (finally a legal way!) and receive a message like "This game requires a <<insert_console>> emulator in order to run". So not to have too many ROMs with the same emulator built in. And in the GOG way, to have the manual, and wallpapers and covers if available.

Let's hope for the various game producers to agree to sell those ROMs at a fair price (no more than $0.99 a game would be fair), so that they could see a revenue out of them and let us play emulators without feeling dirty.

Jun. 22, 2014
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RFS81
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Great idea! But I agree with ssokolow, if this happens, please use a format that runs in any emulator for the system. I don't believe that Sony or Nintendo would do that, though. Maybe Sega, since they have been already porting some of their classics to PC.

May. 22, 2014
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bpsilvia
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Blizzard just recently re-released Rock n Roll Racing on Battle.net as a ZSNES executable, so using emulators is perfectly legal.

May. 15, 2014
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MissFable
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This would be so cool if they could get it to work. Off the top of my head I can think of 8 games that I would buy right away.

May. 12, 2014
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GRxRyder
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To be honest, if they were to ever do this, I'd like it to be on a separate home page entirely as GoG is known mostly for their PC games, and Emulators are still very clunky to use. Unless GoG could program a smooth, well-rounded Emulator and got permission from other gaming companies to put their products on an Emulator part of the website, then I wouldn't find this a very good idea. But this is GoG we're talking about, a little faith in their capabilities couldn't hurt.

Apr. 10, 2014
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ssokolow
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As long as they were suitably cheap, I'd buy ROM+Emulator bundles from GOG.

(But please not in some proprietary format like the SEGA Classics collections. Converting those to something a native Linux emulator can play is annoying.)

It's like DOS games in DOSBox. Sure, I could probably easily find torrents of them, but I take pleasure in legally owning my games.

(Yes, I have ROMs of games like Super Mario World... but I've got old SNES cartridges buried somewhere in the garage.)

...now Amiga games, on the other hand, are something I'd REALLY pay for. In my youth, I missed the opportunity to learn first-hand which ones were "Good Old Games" and I seem to have an unsatisfied craving for isometric RPGs.

Mar. 15, 2014
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Emulators on gog would only be feasible for old computers, not consoles. You only have to google to realize that there are literally thousands of games available for emulators on the web already, with some even being sold on dvd with rom collections (despite a questionable state of legality around such acts). It would be a waste of gog's time. Anyone that currently uses emulators would unfortunately have no inclination to purchase on a game by game basis for any emulator if they already know where to obtain them.

Many of the most successful games developers from past console titles are still around in some form, and would likely rather release such a service on their very own, eg through a virtual store for the latest consoles using their bundled emulator, than through any third party company for the pc. Releasing via console also makes it easier to impose limitations on usage.

Gog is drm free and not many console companies agree with that, even in 2014, and releasing games in such a form on a PC, where it can be very easy to share or copy games, raises a major problem. They just prefer not do it.

Mar. 13, 2014
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Projectsonic
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I doubt this will ever happen. Nintendo would only let this happen with an emulator of their systems over their dead bodies (ironically considering the Virtual Console), and most emulator packages out there (SEGA classics that aren't a Taxman port, for example) run on pretty outdated emulation software. And to top it off, you can forget DRM-Free because of console devs.

The only way I would like to see this working out would be maybe MAME (because it's well, MAME) because having arcade ports would be pretty neat.

Mar. 7, 2014
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gog.com is good site www.ajordan.org

Mar. 6, 2014
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$6 for chrono trigger...psh! Try at least $15 bud

Mar. 4, 2014
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ATARI and Activision do sell Bundled Atari 2600 games for the pc bundled with an Emulator.

Mar. 4, 2014
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While I am all for this, I doubt it's possible with anything from Nintendo or Sony. They will want to use those old titles as exclusive reasons to buy their hardware. Stuff from other consoles, however (like the SEGA ones, the TurboGrafx, and the Neo-Geo) could possibly happen.

Mar. 4, 2014
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Gaerzi
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Nothing illegal about the principle of using emulators. Any relevant licensing issue would obviously be dealt with first before offering games that use emulators.

Still it'd be better to emulate other computers than consoles. They could offer AAA games: Atari/Amiga/Amstrad!

Mar. 2, 2014
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doodlewacka
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It would be illegal and the site might get shut down. Bad. Idea.

Feb. 25, 2014
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ansionnach
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To add to my comment below, each emulated game sold would mean several companies taking a cut, increasing the cost. Why would anyone add GOG into the equation when they can do this themselves and make more money? Those that couldn't handle the distribution themselves could be open but they may prefer to go the DRM route.

Jan. 23, 2014
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ansionnach
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It seems most agree that agreement would need to be reached with both the hardware rights holder as well as the game owner. This is going to be the case regardless of whether there are BIOS ROMs or and OS required to run the games on the emulator.

Looking at Sega, who've been released quite a few emulated games: they've only released games they own the licence for themselves. They would need to strike a deal with third parties to distribute their Megadrive games, for example. But they haven't.

Looking at another real-life example, Nintendo have released emulated version of games on the Wii, but only where all rights holders involved (e.g. Sega, NEC and the software rights holders) have agreed.

Being realistic, Nintendo, Sega and Sony are never going to agree to letting GOG distribute their games DRM-free when they could do it themselves. It's more likely to become a reality where the hardware manufacturer is defunct or no longer involved in the industry, but then NEC may well prefer if they stick to closed systems or those that use DRM. Perhaps the Amiga rights holders could be convinced as they already sell an emulation-friendly package. The same may be true of other very old computers and consoles, but not for the ones most here seem to care about!

Jan. 23, 2014
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Robo4900
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@Jeditobe Actually, I'd prefer SteamOS compatibility(See here: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/steamos_version_of_games ).
That would clear up the Linux problem quite nicely, too, since SteamOS isn't a massive category like Linux is(For those of you who don't know, there isn't just one version of Linux, there's well over a hundred(Possibly more than a thousand), around a hundred of which are still actively updated and almost none of these many, many versions(Or distributions, rather) of Linux are the same).

Now, back on the topic of emulators:
So, let's say GoG wanted to emulate a Sega Mega Drive/Genesis game. The first step would be getting Sega's permission to use an emulator. This would be very hard to do, but not impossible. Then, they'd have to just go through the regular steps of getting a game on GoG.

The key thing here is that Sega are a bit weird, so I don't know if they'd allow GoG to do this.

Dec. 16, 2013
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http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/add_reactos_as_third_supported_platform_and_free_and_open_source_option

Look here please, this one will help to run Console Games using emulators.

Dec. 16, 2013
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kirell
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Oh and on the console companies blocking it, why should they? We are talking about games that run on consoles which are two generations older than the current ones (PS2 vs PS4). And since the console companies are also license holders for many of those games, they would profit twice (license for "official" emulator use, licenses for games)...

Dec. 10, 2013
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kirell
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Technically Possible: There are great working emulators for NES, SNES, N64, Wii, PS1, PS2, PSP, SEGA etc.

Legally Possible: Sure, GOG needs to have contracts with the emulator developers, the console company and game license holders. But most emulators are free and open source, they need a contract with the license holders anyway, so the only real additional hurdle is the console company.

GOG=PC Only?: The emulators run on the PC - you get console games, but you will play them on the PC -> more "PC" games

Dec. 10, 2013
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PeteE
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Wow that's a lot of spam there.

Nov. 20, 2013
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DalekMan
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I agree with Infin8ty that it would probably be better to start with older systems like the Intellivision, made by companies that no longer have a stake in the console market. Sega might also be a good starting point- while some of their newer titles use DRM, Gamersgate has a few of their Genesis and Dreamcast titles listed as DRM-free, so they might be more open-minded on the issue.

The problem with true ports is the time and effort needed to rebuild each individual game you want to bring over. However, I CAN imagine game companies building a sort of half-and-half setup- merge the ROM and emulator into a single executable. That way, like a true port, you can only run it on the system it's sold for, but like any other emulator, once you've got it imitating the old hardware well, you could theoretically bring over most if not all that hardware's library with little trouble.

Oct. 8, 2013
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Infin8ty
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I like the idea, but I think emulation might be a problem.

1. Emulation is typically considered "illegal", and tends to have a bad rapport.
2. The few "legal" emulators, tend to be really terrible, so making them work would be a chore. The other option would be to make a new "legal" emulator, but then... really what I say next would make more sense.
3. Really, it can be confusing when the game is working for the old system, but you're using an entirely different one, especially in control scheme.

This leads me to say that true "ports" should be considered rather than emulations. Also, from a legal standpoint, many games may be impossible, but much will be from apprehension. The first step to make this possible is to start small and very old. Even using systems developed by companies that are no longer in the video game industry (such as Mattel's Intellivision) would probably lead to better outcomes. If GOG can establish a rapport of being able to successfully port the "good old games" from the console days to PC, more companies would probably be willing to allow the distribution of their IP. This can take a lot of work, though and as said below, will probably only be viable after a major company expansion; however, some of the much older systems may still have a chance, and I believe that as long as it is NOT an EMULATION, but rather a PORT, then negotiations could be more successful (as well as sales, if done well).

Oct. 5, 2013
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ElPrimordial
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Sadly this is impossible, probably in 10 years, but for now, impossible.

Sep. 30, 2013
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Davane
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This would be awesome, but the legal issues would likely be a nightmare. It may be something to look into when GOG.com decides upon their next major company expansion, but for now, sticking with PC games is probably more viable. Few people will want classic console games at the expense of classic PC games...

Sep. 20, 2013
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SciFiCat
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If GOG manages to go through the proper channels, get the required licenses and talk with the IP right holders this could be a perfect way to give players a legal option to play console games on PC. It could also serve as another way to recover and preserve old console games for posterity.

Sep. 7, 2013
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ohssosnake22
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This is a terrible idea

Sep. 7, 2013
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BeMinus
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This would be a really good idea, but even before the advent of XBLA, PSN and the Wii Channel the legal implications would likely be too difficult to sort through. One can still hope, though.

Aug. 31, 2013
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Halopc1000
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This is an awesome idea :-)

Aug. 1, 2013
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Trajhenkhetlive
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I like this idea. I might even consider buying the game if it was set at slightly higher than GOG old PC game standards of 10 bucks (maybe for 15 or 20 for a really good old console game). For gaming we exist in a time when the lines between console and PC gaming are really blurred and a game can use the mouse/keyboard or controller.

Jul. 30, 2013
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maxi2099
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PC only, please. Nothing against PC versions of the same games, though.

Jul. 30, 2013
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nintendo97
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This would definitely be feasible with very old consoles like the Turbographx-16 and Commodore 64.

Jul. 27, 2013
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jalister
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Neat idea, but I feel GOG should spend their time on other features. This seems like a legal nightmare to deal with.

Jul. 18, 2013
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Ninjah
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Would love for a legal alternative to emulating old hardware. If nothing else to preserve our culture. Some of us grew up with these things and sooner or later our cartridges will become unresponsive, systems will break etc. This is a necessary addition to GOG. And since so many games are being released with retro-style graphics now a days, there's really no better time than now.

Jul. 8, 2013
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noxio
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I would love to pay even 29.99 for each game that uses complete and perfectly working emulator, nice instaliation program and full support (e.x. Windows 7). And there are so many great console games out there...

Jul. 6, 2013
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worthy

Jun. 20, 2013
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CrazyFikus
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This is an excellent idea, but to get this to work you need:
- licence for the emulator
- licence for the BIOS the emulator uses
- licence from the games publisher
this would drive up the price for the games.
Still, sould be an awesome thing to see.

Jun. 19, 2013
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ELFswe
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Nintendo for example should really look into this. Ok, they have the classic games shop on the Wii and WiiU, but I guess most people don't really care about it. I think this would be a great income for them.
Where can you for example find a new Gameboy Advanced boxed and unopened?

Jun. 17, 2013
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There is no reason (in terms of legality or technicality) that this cannot be done. The trick is licensing the game and console being emulated, which requires the approval of both the game publisher as well as the console developer. I for one sincerely hope this occurs. There are some consoles and console games that are nigh on impossible to find. These Good Old Games would make perfect sense for emulation.

May. 31, 2013
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RaikonLance
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Seeing how for example the Wii U sells old games as download, I don't see why gog should do this.

May. 30, 2013
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manezero
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Why this should be illegal? We are not asking gog.com to pick a rom from some strange site and start to sell it. We are asking to gog.com to contact who own the copyrights and try to make a deal with them (to sell their games). Mybe it is difficult, but it is not illegal!

May. 30, 2013
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REhorror
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Even if this is legal, I would like GoG to stay PC games. Console games already have their own market already.

May. 22, 2013
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TheIRS
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Although I don't doubt this is impossible, it seems like an difficult task to execute well, perhaps too difficult to even bother with. I understand some older consoles and games can become difficult to obtain sometimes (as an example, Conker's Bad Fur Day has, sadly, been climbing in price for a while now, and I don't expect that to change), but I have to wonder if the GOG team would even consider the venture to be worth starting in the first place. The safest guess is "no."

May. 4, 2013
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