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Ban all regional pricing from GOG. Stick with your principles!in progress

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I's really saddening that GOG forgot what they once promises and submits to the will of greedy publishers or whoever came up wit the great idea that some regions have to pay a 30% to 100% extra for inexplicable reasons. Just like the Humble Store, just like every good thing being ruined by greed in the end.
And yes, you get back some store credit (which is not nearly the extra you're charged first) in the outrageous cases, but you're even cheated on that. For months, the credit advertised for Witcher 3 was not nearly the credit you actually got.
I would have bought Divinty Original Sin and I would have pre-ordered Witcher 3 if I didn't feel cheated by this nasty price policy. And I hate being cheated.

Dec. 11, 2014
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PaterAlf
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Taxes are just a lame excuse. Right at the moment that excuse works, because currency conversion by chance is somewhere near the EU Vat rates (but I often still have to pay more than US price + VAT). Just some months ago 1$ = 1€ meant that Europeans (even many who don't even have the Euro as their currency) had to pay 40% more than people from the USA. What does that have to do with VAT? And what about Russia? They are by far not the poorest country in the world and as far as I know they have 18% VAT too. Why do they get such ridiculous low prices? Because it has nothing to do with taxes, but with piracy rates and with greed by publishers and developers.

And of course the income isn't comparable in every region (but it also isn't the same within a country), but living costs are very different as well. So just looking at the average income doesn't make much sense.

Dec. 7, 2014
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Greed? Why exactly are people calling this greed? That's completely ridiculous.
GOG even gives credit if you end up paying more than the US price and that actually means they lose money.
Not every region has comparable income (so one could expect games to be cheaper in South America or Eastern Europe for example).

And once and for all, try to learn why games in Europe are generally more expensive, there's 2 main reasons and none of them is greed:
1 - Taxes. Sales taxes for games and other entertainment products is generally higher in Europe compared to the US.
2 - The taxes ARE INCLUDED in the price. Sales taxes in the EU and US have a major difference: In the EU you pay only the price of the product and the tax is later taken out through the seller. I the US you pay the tax as an extra, so the price in dollars you see is usually not all you will pay, and the final bill will be higher.

Nov. 28, 2014
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GameMer
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http://www.frpascher.eu/

Nov. 24, 2014
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TheGoldenGecko
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Well, if GOG's unfortunate submission to greed riles you up enough, just do like me: wait for the big sales. Such as the current Autumn sale, up to 90% discount (supposedly, anyhow; I've seen up to 80%, personally). Of course, all games in the sale seem to be at 50% off, until they are featured on the top of the front page, when their discount raises to a varying % for a few / several hours. I've nabbed some oldies, myself, as well as the original M&B that they're ironically offering (ironic considering the second-last comment posted here) and have been getting the "stamps" for the Witcher 2 give-away. I've played it to death and don't intend to replay in the foreseeable future... but it's almost no effort, and in that case I'd certainly rather have and not want, than want and not have. Elsewise, I'm very selective and would rather not even have the free games that were automatically put in my library upon account creation, with one exception: good old Beneath A Steel Sky. Now that's a welcoming gift!

Anyhow, TL;DR: wait for the sales. You can still nab some classics, plus others, at special prices, still DRM-free, whilst putting the hurt on GOG at the same time by killing their regular sales a bit.

@Robo4900: the downside -- and its a blatant one -- is their revoking one of their principles as well as their promise never to do so, after having stated that GOG would go under the day it went back on its commitments. They even made a neat sketch satirizing regional pricing, denouncing it as a rip-off and how they'll have nout to do with it.
They claim to partially submit to this practice so as to make more good games available to us; in other words, they claim they do it for the gamers. The truth is obvious and logical: they do it for the money. They made each of those initial commitments FOR us, now they're breaking one of them FOR us as well? Nothing's changed, except they've grown and would rather keep growing and making more and more sales than to hold onto every commitment. And here's the kicker: those games they've sunk to regional pricing to put on sale at GOG, if you want them, just buy 'em elsewhere! Online, retail, Steam or another digital distributor with no software platform, whatever. It's not gonna be the hard-to-find oldies, which is supposedly what they started this whole business for to begin with, hence the name Good Old Games. They should've aimed at being a tad more restrained and selective, rather than ever more so putting games up that have little or nothing to do with Good or Old. Especially not at the cost of their commitments, which got them where they are. The whole service is still very neat and professional, but it's one commitment now, which will it be next? If you give in to greed once, odds are you'll do it again. May take a long while, but it'll happen. I genuinely wish it won't, but I expect it will.

Furthermore, regional pricing is indeed a rip-off! It's a digital distribution of software, how are fees and taxes justifiable, beyond the inevitable VAT? There are no shipping costs or tariffs or any such thing applied to a non-physical distribution of non-physical goods. We're being charged more for living in countries of supposedly higher average income! If you think that is fair, then do ponder on the advantage of actually having a higher income when it's made sure you pay more for the same. Oh no, this is blatantly unfair and, truly, a rip-off, if ever there was one.

GOG folks... you could still undo this. Make it right again.

Nov. 15, 2014
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arson88
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A fair price is good for everyone. A higher price just to pay the middlemen is not fair. Lets see those middlemen beg publishers instead to get their business.

Nov. 14, 2014
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Matruchus
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Since even old games like Mount & Blade are now regionally priced the in progress tag really needs to be removed.

Nov. 12, 2014
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Robo4900
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(Since it's unavoidable; apparently they offer store credit, too, so I see literally no downside...)

Nov. 4, 2014
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Robo4900
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EDIT 2: Okay, so apparently some companies are forcing GOG into regional pricing. TBH, as long as it means they can stock all these awesome games, I'm fine with this. :)

Nov. 4, 2014
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Robo4900
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EDIT: Wait, just looked it up.
I don't see what the fuss is about. The regional pricing is based on average exchange rates, so if anything, it's better this way...

Nov. 4, 2014
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Robo4900
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GOG, you're supposed to be the good guys! :(

Nov. 4, 2014
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TheJoe
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Sticking with their principles, of course, does mean banning all incomplete/DLC ridden games too.

Oct. 24, 2014
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Pvt_Will123
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i dont see any progress?

Oct. 23, 2014
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Efren93
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This kind of self-entitlement bs is why we can't have nice things.

Oct. 22, 2014
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christykitsune
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Lol. Way to stamp and shit al lover your promises. Fair price fair games, one world, Yeah? Remember that? Looks like you forgot, gog. Remember these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzIYJ15CMbk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6P3yOTR2Vc&t=30m12s
"The moment we'll betray our values, the whole GOG will explode and that's the end of it."

Oct. 19, 2014
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HypersomniacLive
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In light of the recent Twitch Q&A where they asked the community to vote on the return of the Nordic classic games under the regional pricing model, SirPrimalform's comment is truer than ever.

Oct. 15, 2014
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MarkoH01
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I really hate the way GOG is going here. It is plain unfair because digital distribution costs the same for everybody so everybody should pay the same. I could simply use VPN and change my country in the settings so I would pay less - you consider that fair? Or would GOG ban my account like STEAM would? It is hard to believe that GOG would handle like STEAM would but they are on their way with this....

Sep. 27, 2014
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SirPrimalform
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It's very disingenuous to mark this as "in progress" when it's nothing of the sort.

Unless they really are in the middle of a U-turn, which seems pretty unlikely.

Sep. 23, 2014
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MIK0
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Why does it say it is in progress? To me it seems the opposite.

Sep. 23, 2014
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sariaen
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Why och why do I have to pay in the local currencies the countries I visit? Srsly?! What happened! I was very happy to pay in $ while living in Poland! Those were great deals! Now I get some vouchers each time I purchase something...srsly? What about other gamers who get screwed up?

Sep. 20, 2014
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Gasivodo
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$ VS principles.. hmmm well:-(

Sep. 16, 2014
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Moyshe
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Let's do some math. In Russian Federation Witcher III title costs 699 RUB, but current exchange rate is 37 RUB per USD what means title must be priced as 2280 RUB. In fact it is hardly possible because of STEAM price of title (699 RUB). In such situation, a fair price (in the sense of taking into account the current exchange rate) is unlikely to be an advantage. Of course, DRM Free is real advantage but i don't think it is worth of triple price.

Sep. 13, 2014
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Demut
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Come on, GOG, don’t let us down :(

Sep. 5, 2014
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Gnostic
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Origin overtook GOG and presumably have twice of GOG user, if not quadruple. Be careful with what you wish for.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/last_chance_special/post1421

Sep. 2, 2014
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Matruchus
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Yes that is the so called regional pricing effect that, we that were and still are for former gogs fair pricing policy, were afraid off. This is normal for regional pricing. Since you live in a country with a supposedly higher standard of living you will have to pay a lot more then somebody in Poland. But since regional pricing is unfair some of that live in poor countries will have to pay more and that's unfornately the effect of regional pricing. The only countrys that profit from that are Poland, Russia and a few other Eastern European countries, everybody else in EU cause of supposedly higher standard of living is being ripped off.

Sep. 1, 2014
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m0rkeulv
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The difference is infact huge. the complete DEPONIA series costs $39.98 in poland while it costs €50.37 ($66.27) here in Norway. thats more than 50% increase.

Sep. 1, 2014
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m0rkeulv
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Ok you where right, after testing some more countires i found that for instance south-korea is cheaper than USA andNnorway.
Looks like most of asia got cheaper prices.

Sep. 1, 2014
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Matruchus
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I quess murkeulv you missed that 23 games have now additionaly become regionaly priced. You can check them here: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/newly_regionalpriced_games/page1

Sep. 1, 2014
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m0rkeulv
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um.. guys, you know there's an option to switch currency at the bottom of the page right ? i have tried a few countries with VPN and can’t say I see any difference in price, there is a small difference between currencies probably because of exchange rate but as i said you can switch it. Then again i might have completely missed these regional changes, could anyone tell me which countries got regional prices ?

Sep. 1, 2014
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MIK0
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The request shouldn't be marked as "in progress" because clearly it is not.

Sep. 1, 2014
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Matruchus
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I came here long time ago cause gog had fair pricing policy that did not screw me with regional pricing in comparison to the most of the world. Now that gog is going for full regional pricing im wondering if its worth to stay here. Now we even have the look of the website that looks like a copy of Steam website. I really don't know anymore what to think about gog and in progress needs to be removed from this wish since its not valid anymore.

Sep. 1, 2014
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Well, I bought here cause it was cheaper; Now it is not possible cause of Regional pricing; I will look for another web where I can do it.
Im not an idiot so as to pay more for something digital others can buy cheaper,
Regional pricing is just a digital Rob. They always sell you the same tales as politicians, in the end its is just about getting more money, there is no advantage;

Aug. 31, 2014
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satyr1349
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I wanted to buy some games from the activision promo. After logging into my account I saw the reginal pricing and that stopped me. I am very disappointed by GOG :(

Aug. 31, 2014
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marrowj
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a great , guess witcher 3 was the last game i get from gog then, i guess i will still buy when they have extreme discounts but at normal prices in euro o hellls nooo

Aug. 29, 2014
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PhilliKon
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I was one of the original customers when GOG opened it's virtual doors, I have supported their selling model by buying over 250 games from here.
Sadly I won't be buying any more. it was only a few months ago that GOG made a promise not to charge the same in £'s as they did in $'s.
so much for that then.
sorry guys, you've got too greedy.

Aug. 29, 2014
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dragso
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Much has changed and much more will. It is all about "shareholder value".
I won't trust them anymore. One of the main reasons for supporting gog got buried. Once it was one for all ... now its all they can get. Just to maximize profit.

Aug. 29, 2014
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Taterlicker
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Im an American that just moved to England because of family.When i logged onto gog for the first time since moving here,I noticed that gog wants to charge me English prices for games.My Paypal account is tied to my American bank account.When I go to buy any of your games here I'm now paying almost double because of regional pricing!You are trying to charge me double in American currency because my ip addy says im in England.Im from the US,I created my account in the US,and My money is from the US.This is not just.I will not be buying anymore games here,and I think that anyone else who feels this way should make their vote count by saying no more!Regional pricing is a plague on the digital market that needs to be cured

Aug. 29, 2014
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mrking58
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how is this in process? gog just added more regional prices

Aug. 29, 2014
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PaterAlf
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It's disappointing to see this one marked as "in progress" while at the same time more than 20 new games with regional pricing were added to the catalogue.

Aug. 28, 2014
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SmokeyPSD
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As an Australian I moved my gaming purchases primarily digital to escape being asked to pay for more due to the "Australian Tax".

I shouldn't have to pay it even on one of my favourite sites such as GOG.... :(

Aug. 28, 2014
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I would agree to regional pricing only if it works according to each nation's income. For example, someone in Belarius wouldn't need to pay as much as someone in Switzerland according to net income.

Jul. 30, 2014
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sorrowofwind
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For example, in my country our wage is 1/3 of US citizens, but our games cost 10$~20$ more expensive than US!

Jul. 30, 2014
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sorrowofwind
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Some countries are actually POORER while the games are priced HIGHER, the regional pricing feels so wrong..

Jul. 30, 2014
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LouNatick
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I am far more inclined to buy games when they are cheaper. It's unfair to expect more just because a country seems wealthier. Not everyone in that country is wealthy and things can cost more to buy locally. If prices go up I would be far more selective about which games I buy and therefore would spend far less on games available on GOG.com. I love GOG.com because prices are very reasonable so I hope you will avoid regional pricing.

Jul. 26, 2014
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vladimir1986
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Regional pricing is far from being fair! You can live on a "rich country". but if you are part of the majority of the population you are going to have a 0 hour contract or a below minimum wage! Any game over £5 is unaffordable by me, so I switched to ONLY buy from offers now... Or just download on abandonware pages for what I care.

Jul. 25, 2014
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Matruchus
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Effect of regional pricing in every digital store besides gog.com for European customers is this - minimum 25% increase in price in regard to the base price in USD for no reason. Not to forget Australia who in several cases has to pay extortion prices for games. Regional pricing won't increase the number of games on gog - that is a fact. We will get more games only if gog changes its quality standards. Several good selling games from other digital stores have been offered to gog and declined by it for no apparent reason - gog stated to developers that they don't think the game will sell good on gog when it sells excellent on other platforms - what an oxymoron. That's the response I got from several developers when aksing why isn't their game released here. So I don't think regional pricing is good since it does not quarantee that a game will come here. And its obvious that it does not work in gog's case after regional pricing implementation since there aren't any more games coming to gog besides indies and few games from smaller publishers.

Jul. 23, 2014
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tdsamardzhiev
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Please, think before voting for this **** - people in some countries work whole months for $9.99

Jul. 20, 2014
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tfishell
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I say yes for older games; for newer games that tons of people want here, GOG's Fair Price Package is a pretty good compromise, imo.

Jul. 18, 2014
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loki21
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Another Australian weighing in. I hate regional pricing. If you think it is a good thing, you obviously live in one of the countries that gets stuff cheap. Your $5 purchase is $10 to us. Why? "Because we said so."
Regional pricing hurts a lot of people. The ones who are 'helped' by it get that at the expense of those being hurt.
"Oh, but it means more games on GOG" - yes, for those of you getting the lower prices. What do I care if GOG adds 50 new games, but I know that I will be paying 50-100% more for them? Pretty simple: I'll wait for them to go on sale, if I buy them at all. Doesn't help GOG, does it?

Jul. 17, 2014
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I am from Australia and regional pricing is terrible. Not once have I seen any hard facts stating why we get such a ridiculous markup. There is no legitimate reason for this, publishers do it because people keep paying it.

Jul. 10, 2014
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