nmorello11: I've been playing Vanilla wow on Nostalrius (for those of you who want to play Vanilla. It's highly populated and free). There's nothing illegal about playing it so long as they do not charge for it.

I wanted to give my 2 cents about.

TL;DR Vanilla WoW is a better, harder, and more challenging game than retail WoW is

Yeah, there are things that you and I both wish Vanilla had that are in the current retail version (your example of flight paths, as well as there being fewer graveyards).

And yeah, Pallys being unable to tank is kind of a bummer. I love tanking, so I rolled a prot warrior, and am loving it just as much as my retail prot pally.

Although i really like the idea that 2 enemies being able to kill you. It's one of the things that makes the game a challenge (something sorely lacking in retail), and if 2 guys (or murlocs) gang up on you in a real fight, you're going to have a much harder time.

And yes, getting a mount does take forever (Level 40, which takes a lot longer to get to in vanilla than it does in retail)...but it makes you appreciate getting that mount a lot more than retail does. I have something like 170ish mounts in retail, ranging from all the racial mounts to the phoenix that drops in TK, and honestly, I feel less connected to them than I do to my plain 60%speed horse. I feel like I worked towards getting my one horsey, and that I earned it. So I feel that decreasing the amount of mounts in game, as well as it taking a lot longer to get a mount, is actually a good thing.

What I like most about vanilla is that it puts the social aspect back into a game that centers around playing with other people. In retail, you can get into LFR with 25 other random people, and everyone works in silence, or if someone does talk, it seems to be about something negative. But if I'm running a 5 man dungeon, we WILL talk because communication is necessary. Also, I have yet to encounter someone being a complete a**hole (cocky yes, a**hole no), because 1)It takes a lot longer to get a group together, and players are not as easily replaceable and 2.)You will probably be playing with these same people some time in the future, and being an a**hole will hurt you in the long run.

So to conclude, this pre cata world IS beautiful. It's nice to see my favorite zone, Tanaris, returned to its original glory!

My character is Beccaria, and I play on the PVP server. Add me to friends if you ever want to play, or need a tank. I'll be happy to help.

nmorello11: I've been playing Vanilla wow on Nostalrius (for those of you who want to play Vanilla. It's highly populated and free).

Elmofongo: Nostalrius sucks.

Kronos WOW is the most faithful and quality made blizzlike Private server I have ever played:

I mean look at this trailer for Blackwing Lair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yWEqqbhmfQ

nmorello11: I'm very much in disagreement about Nostalrius sucking. I haven't played Kronos, but from what I've heard, Nostalrius is more populated and more stable.

Yes, that trailer for BWL is pretty cool...but we all know trailers can be deceiving <Cough> Colonial Marines! <Cough> Watch_Dogs <Cough, Cough>.

On the real though, as far as BWL and all raids in general go, Nostalrius offers the same exact product as Kronos does. You could easy just replace where it says "Kronos" at the end with "Nostalrius".

nmorello11: There's nothing illegal about playing it so long as they do not charge for it.

mindblast: Stop spreading false information please.

Playing or owning private servers is against Blizzard's terms of agreement.

Quote from their FAQ:

Q: Does Blizzard Entertainment® allow or support other Battle.net® like or emulation servers? Can I host one of these rogue servers?
No. Except as set forth in the next paragraph, Blizzard Entertainment® does not support or condone network play of its games anywhere but Battle.net®. Specifically, you may not host or provide matchmaking services for any of our games or emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Blizzard Entertainment® in the network feature of its games, through protocol emulation, tunneling, modifying or adding components to the game(s), use of a utility program or any other techniques now known or hereafter developed, for any purpose including, but not limited to network play over the Internet, network play utilizing commercial or non-commercial gaming networks or as part of content aggregation networks without the prior written consent of Blizzard Entertainment®.

nmorello11: I've been playing Vanilla wow on Nostalrius (for those of you who want to play Vanilla. It's highly populated and free). There's nothing illegal about playing it so long as they do not charge for it.

Elmofongo: I have done my research on both servers and so far Kronos is the superior server.

Kronos review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGHa-TTWhK4

Nostalrius reveiw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BBeYlVQCCc

nmorello11: I am corrected. Yes, hosting a private server is illegal. I had previously thought that so long as you were not charging for it, that it wasn't.

However, what I should say is that so long as you're not trying to profit off of Blizzard's creation, Blizz PROBABLY will not shut you down. God knows how many lesser known private servers there are out there.

My conclusion to this argument is that the best way to know which is server is better is to try both of them yourself. Maybe I'd like the other one better, maybe I won't. Maybe you'd like the other one better, maybe you won't.

And I am sorry for naming the server names if you wanted them to remain anonymous. If it's any comfort, both servers are pretty well known, and the videos you posted will most likely be seen by more people than this thread will. However, if you really wish it, say the word, and we can both go back and change my server to "N" and your server to "K".

ShadowWulfe: Is there a way to play WOW alone and without really having to deal with other people?

Breja: I don't know if there's a way, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a point. I mean, pretty much every single player RPG in existence would be a better choice.

ShadowWulfe: Is there a way to play WOW alone and without really having to deal with other people?

Elmofongo: Would you play a single player WOW that plays like say Dragon Age Origins?