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Use Valve's "Proton" to package Windows games for Linux users
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Ezwen Valve released 2 days ago the first public version of their new tool called "Proton" which gives the possibility to run Windows games under Linux with little effort. The tool is based on Wine, a long-running open source effort to make Windows applications work under Linux. Accordingly, Proton was released as open-source software.
Announcement: steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561
Source code: github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton
Could we imagine GOG making use of Proton to provide some Windows-only games for Linux users? At least the games that are part of Valve's "whitelist" (see announcement post from Valve), which are supposedly running very well with Proton?
thanks!
DrmSucksMaster GoG shouldn't depend on software released by a direct competitor for Linux games. What they need is their own Proton alternative, or fork rather.
Arymanus Some people say Proton is just Wine+DXVK... Well, then why GoGs won't do the same? This is all about user experience.
Linux on Desktop evolved loads over last then years and become a reliable stable workstation software. More and more companies goes linux first for their employees even.
There is a definite need for a user friendly way of "one click to play on Linux". Will it be Proton? Or just home-brew soluton on Gogs? Doesn't matter, it just need to be there to compete with what Steam is offering.
Right now I am voting with my money: buying game on steam because I can hassle free play on my work laptop when travelling without wasting 100GB for windows partition.
Time4Tea I have found the vast majority of Windows-only games run great in Wine anyway, without the need for a 3rd-party re-packaging (which is all Proton really is). Sorry, no vote.
sn0man1 I'm buying more games on Steam because with Proton 99% I just click install and it works. GOG should first get a native Galaxy and then use the open source Proton to compete with Steam.
minigogger Fork it away and call it GOG's "Proton".
CrazyEyEz24 Eltechs (Russian i think) did similar & there program worked (well i had very few problems depending on game as it was still wine based)) with little effort, only problem was that people didn't believe them or know how to properly use there program so they gave-up (and left us buyers at wine-2.0 or 3.0 i think) sadly (and i still use it once a week to test stuff). Anyway im all for Linux gaming as people need to understand not everyone enjoys using windows.
MasterionX GOG Galaxy for Linux first!
Proton implementation second!
NavigatorR I think copying how Lutris does things would be better
TheSwallow There is already a way to use GOG Galaxy on GNU/Linux and you can launch Witcher 3 from it directly! For that use Lutris and install there lutris:gog-galaxy-125130-2 ( currently to be reviewed by moderators). That's it!
IMPORTANT: DISABLE GOG GALAXY OVERLAY
fridgeband Why take gog, which is against things like this and then just add something that goes against gog? This is like taking a crystal clear bucket of reverse osmosis filtered water and saying "hey can we just add one little tiny drop of nuclear toxic waste to the bucket, hey guys cmon it's okay" NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it's not okay. Same thing happens when you're eating an organic salad and your friends are like "hey bro why don't you just put a little bacon on that?? what? lol it's just a prank bro!"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
fridgeband no thanks, I don't want EA or Valve or anything steam or AAA corporation related becoming involved with gog.com I also want google captcha removed from gog.com and replaced with something else. I will avoid all products that are touched by this, again I will say NO THANK YOU!
Yasri Comments for those slaming this just because its valve doing it.
1. Valve is paying for alot of devs to work on this and upstream changes. So even if you want to roll your own wine/dvxk, your getting a better tool to use.
2. Valve is spending alot of money to try and keep microsoft in check. If you know their history, you would know why that is need.
3. It lets indie devs get another market they can sell to, without having to spend limit resources, doing the porting and managing it.
4. For end users this is great, it is almost transparently adds ton of game that can be played on linux.
tinysalamander Eeew… clearly mark this thing if used. I don't want to support lazy developers.
djoxyk you must be kidding. are you suggesting to use Valve's wine prefixes with integrated steam calls to run DRM-free games on gog? no one prevents you from rolling wine prefix, installing gog galaxy into it and running windows games from that gog galaxy app. I'm writing it from gog galaxy on Debian and it took me 15 minutes to setup full wine prefix that is capable to run most of windows games. And it runs even games that Proton can't handle. why Linux users would need such useless feature? I'd better see gog galaxy for Linux instead.
rattifant <3 That would be awesome!
mercury_zero GOG famously opposes DRM, and they do it because they want to respect and preserve the health of games as an artistic medium, and as an industry.
They know the cost of letting games slip into a state where everything is cloistered in walled gardens, and they want to do their part to protect our hobby and our culture from predatory lock-in schemes, and preserve it for future generations to enjoy.
This project is one of the most promising piece of progress in some time toward achieving that same goal.
By developing this project under an open source license, Valve has extended a hand of cooperation toward its competitors, like GOG, in the hopes that the industry will come together to promote a healthy free and open gaming platform.
It's Valve's hope, and mine, that the freedom-loving contingent of the games industry will all stand united with the purpose protecting games from the existential threat of vendor lock-in.
I hope to see GOG proudly and boldly support initiatives like this one.
fil-cat Yep!
As much as I prefer GoG over Steam and am a little distrusting of Valve, they do a good job on the fighting front to go all cross platform and release us from the shackles of Microsoft and its DirectX.
Valve promotes Linux gaming, valve promotes Vulkan, Valve promotes open code approaches ...
I don't like their sales platform (Steam and how they try to lock in customers) but on that other front I am positively surprised.
And yes, they have a good strategy there and do actually more on the promoting functional Linux gaming side that GoG. So why not use the fruits of those efforts, since the are available open source, and help GoG's Linux support take off a little too?
tinysalamander Eeew. It should be clearly marked as not native if implemented.
Ariel_Linx I really hope someone is at least pondering the implementation of "Proton" or proton-like technology into the GOG.com windows only games library ...
flobaer Yes please! This is the only thing that made Steam a little more attractive to me in the past years. Since quite some time I've only ever bought games from GOG instead of Steam because of DRM, but being able to play Windows games without tinkering for hours with Wine only to fail anyway in the end makes Steam suddenly worth considering again.
Kasper... You now that "Valve's Proton" is literally just wine wrapped with DXVK for some games ? Like a thing that exist since YEARS wrapped with something that exist since more than a Year...
It's nothing more... Valve doesn't own anything
smagaslav I hope we will get this with release of GOG Galaxy on Linux.
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