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Don't make installing Galaxy the default setting in standalone game installers

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Include an OPTION to download Galaxy if you must (opt-IN, not opt-OUT), perhaps something as simple as a prompt to open the GOG Galaxy webpage. But don't bundle a full Galaxy install into every game installer, and for gods' sake, don't make people have to uncheck an option in order to NOT install Galaxy.

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How is forcing us to install GOG Galaxy during a game install DRM free. Making me uninstall the GOG utility every time will stop me from buying games from your sight. I came here for my game collection not Steam for that reason. We should have the choice you sold us that it is our software to own. If you play like Steam people will go to Steam to get there games not GOG.

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Exactly, don't turn into a DRM-first website. That's not why people buy on GOG. It's because the players get to choose, I myself am turning away from Steam because it's so anoying to have yet another program installed, it's another layer and I just want my games to be a clean install, no whistles and bells.

Aug. 12, 2017
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OK so apparently most (all?) games with this bundling have non-Galaxy install versions. <br /> <br /> The question is WHY? Apart from pissing off customers (not only those that don't want it, but those that don't want to download the same crap added to every game!), from a software development & support standpoint it's seriously moronic. Unless someone is going to tell me that re-bundling every game in the catalog every time a new version of Galaxy comes out is somehow better than just having a stand-alone Galaxy install and a stand-alone game install? <br /> <br /> FFS, just stick a library or two into each game download - which handles all the Galaxy-to-game communication - and get the game to look for Galaxy. If it's there, use it. If it's not, then ignore it! <br /> <br /> It's really not that difficult, and you'd think that people who can get old games to work on new systems (which GOG does a pretty damn good job at), would be aware of basic software development principles such as code modularity...

Aug. 11, 2017
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I've noticed a few of my games now seem to come with Galaxy by default - it's a pain to uninstall it every time (I don't use it at all). The whole point of standalone install files is for people to avoid having to use Galaxy. Forcing it on us negates the good feeling GOG normally generates in fans. Please remove Galaxy from the standalone installs.

Aug. 8, 2017
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pls dnt put Galaxy by default, a French Canadian asking pls.

Aug. 5, 2017
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Just downloaded the new installer for something and was sad to see the only download was bundled with Galaxy. I've almost entirely stopped buying games on Steam because I don't want to have to deal with the overlay. <br /> <br /> Incredible shame that the DRM-free aspect of gaming that GoG built its reputation and renown on is now being forced to the background so it can become just another Steam.

Aug. 2, 2017
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Just goes to show how bent GOG are on not understanding people's view who are critical of Galaxy being forced down our necks at every nook and cranny on this site. It's a mirror of their mentality these days. They aren't the same company they once were, fighting for DRM Free and various forms of customer friendly and fair practices. I miss those days, I really do. At least there was an alternative to the steam parasite back then. These days... I don't know. Technically still a choice, but for how long..? Clear as day where they are heading.

Jul. 26, 2017
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The point of this wish is to make the NON-GALAXY installer the default instead of the other way around. Don't play dumb, GOG.

Jul. 22, 2017
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For every game that includes GOG Galaxy to support in-game features (that otherwise would not work), you can also download a "classic" installer without GOG Galaxy. You have a choice.

Jul. 21, 2017
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Galaxy is supposed to be optional, yet it's being shoved down customers' throats at every chance. If I wanted games from clients, I'd go to steam.

Jul. 19, 2017
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I enjoy Galaxy, but it should not be mandatory in my opinion; regardless, I find it convinient...but to each their own, right?

Jul. 14, 2017
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There is a warning, but it doesn't make it better...

Jul. 13, 2017
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Bundling Galaxy into games and installing it as default without prior warning is NOT COOL. <br /> <br /> Dear GOG, I buy from you because I trust you won't put crap into my games. I consider Galaxy to be crap but I'm okay with it as long as you don't bother me with it. However, if you add Galaxy into your installers and force me to go through some hoops to not have it installed, then I'll trust you no more, and you will be no better than those pirate sites where I have to keep my guard up not to get herpes. <br /> <br /> So I will stop buying from you, plain and simple.

Jul. 13, 2017
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How standalone installer for all games is better than a plataform to unify all your libary? <br /> <br /> I'd just like to keep it optional instead of forcing everyone to have it; The simple argument of 'everyone is using Galaxy, we don't need to support the old way of installing our products' is one that is plausible - they have already did that with the older gog downloader - hence the concern. <br /> <br /> <br /> How you sync your archievments without the galaxy? <br /> <br /> How about someone who does not care about achievements, and the firm belief that it is only something for people with a need for rewards; that smug feeling of satisfaction for collecting that 1000th kill of the same enemy that you grew tired of killing days ago? <br /> <br /> Play with friends? chat? ... If u want a standalone game buy the dvd T.T <br /> <br /> Play with friends? I open up a command prompt and type 'ipconfig /all' I use my external IP address and my 'friends' connect to my IP. <br /> <br /> As for chatting, I don't know about you, but I have a dedicated chat program. <br /> <br /> The trouble is - no one is selling stand-alone dvd games anymore - go to one of the few remaining brick and mortar stores; the selection continues to drop, unless you could facebook cards and steam cards.

Jul. 12, 2017
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sorry but ... it's a stupid idea. <br /> How standalone installer for all games is better than a plataform to unify all your libary? wtf? How you sync your archievments without the galaxy? Play with friends? chat? ... If u want a standalone game buy the dvd T.T

Jul. 11, 2017
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I think this is a step in the wrong direction. Like Cifer84 said I'm afraid that this is only the first step of GOG Galaxy, the NON-optional client. Or why do you think it's necessary to bundle an optional client in each installer? Please GOG let the user decide to use Galaxy or not. The ones who will give it a try will also do so without wasting the space in each standalone installer.

Jul. 8, 2017
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I... personally don't mind this bundling, but probably because I'm happy with Galaxy anyway. Maybe a unified installer could be created, with a selection whether to install with or without it? I can see the benefits of making it easier to update. Alternatively, it could be installed by default, but designed to be modular enough that it can be purely a game updater without impacting resources? <br /> <br /> I guess the other point is if they have had to reverse engineer something like an installer to get it working, it makes more sense to use their own installer solution anyway... Particularly for games that formerly included built-in update functions which are now obsolete. <br /> <br /> TL;DR I don't mind a gog/galaxy installer for games if the default option doesn't slow things down

Jun. 27, 2017
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Not all games seem to be bundled with Galaxy (so far I've only encountered 1) but they are out there. I thought there was a Gogmix list but can't find it. The real issue here is when functionality starts to be dropped to force you to use (or log in with) Galaxy. Examples are multiplayer in Alien versus Predator and Rise of the Triad 2013, both of which should work without.

Jun. 27, 2017
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Ummm.... what are you guys even talking about here? i've downloaded quite a few games off the website recently that never installed GOG Galaxy. Is it games where GOG Galaxy has enabled online multiplayer again that have it, because in that case I can understand why they've done this. But seriously, I downloaded games just two days ago that didn't have Galaxy bundled with it, so it really looks like you guys are raging about an issue that doesn't exist.

Jun. 20, 2017
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I use Linux for Work and Windows for play. Galaxy won't work in old operational system so should not be mandatory to play since there are a lot o people who like older games that can't be played in modern SO

Jun. 17, 2017
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Better yet, start supporting Downloader again, that was a better program than Galaxy, and it never tried to be a backdoor DRM scheme, with Galaxy the promises GOG is built on are getting pretty hollow.

Jun. 16, 2017
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Voting with my wallet, I suggest everyone else do the same; I didn't buy into the windows 10 'install without clear user acceptance' junk, I'm sure as hell not doing it with GOG. It's got me really reconsidering supporting GOG in the future. Boycotts do work, but the build up has to be considerable before it actually starts to hurt companies with 'cash reserves'.

Jun. 14, 2017
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I'm probably in the minority here as someone who is still using windows Vista which is an operating system that galaxy no longer supports and I REALLY would hate it if galaxy becomes a requirement to download and install games and I really don't have the money to get a better operating system and I really don't want windows 10 since older games become increasingly difficult to run newer operating systems. So, please don't force us to use galaxy at some point in the future.

Jun. 10, 2017
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Please GOG,keep Galaxy out of your game installers,and make it optional like you promised in the first place.

Jun. 8, 2017
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Is this no longer a thing? Ive downloaded several of my games from the website without GOG galaxy and i haven't even been asked to install it if i didn't deliberately download the client. <br /> <br /> Did they realise it was a bad idea and changed their mind?

Jun. 5, 2017
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We were told that Galaxy would be ENTIRELY optional but lately it feels as if it's being forced more and more on us. Gwent only has an installer for Galaxy which then downloads the game. Sorry but that is BS. Installers should be standalone and DRM free. You can stuff Gwent until you make it Galaxy and DRM free.

May. 28, 2017
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Step by step to DRM: They try as many of us as possible to use GOG Galaxy and in some years they can say "80 % of our customers use GOG Galaxy and therefore it's not economical to offer the "classical download" anymore, GOG Galaxy for everyone, because we want to offer you the best service". Pretty sad, because DRM is no service.

May. 19, 2017
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This is why I save all my installers after I buy a game and decide to update them or not. That being said, if "Bad clone of steam", or when, it is finally forced upon me just to play a GOOD old (or new) game, I am closing my account.

May. 17, 2017
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It simply HAS to be opt-in, else you're making Galaxy optional only if looked from a "legal" standpoint. Turns out your customers don't care if you "legally" kept your promise; opt-out is at the very least an underhanded move and it won't be tolerated. It will lead your loyal customer base away. You're going to lose more customers from this than you're gonna get in exchange. <br /> A link to Galaxy's download page during the installation looks like the ideal solution.

May. 16, 2017
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I'm impressed how this idea came in your mind -_- , seriously this isn't a bright idea : a standalone installer / backup should remain free of your client (except for some case) .... <br /> Will you update each installers , each time the client receive an update ? And if not enough people use it, it's because they don't want to. <br /> <br /> So don't take your customers for idiots (at least those who are against) <br /> <br /> Your middle solution , with 2 installers isn't viable in the long run (stop lying to yourself). <br /> <br /> The only way to increase to make the client more visible is too put a big button in the navbar, (actually it's hidden). <br /> <br /> But i'm afraid if this idea came from some of your shareholders , who are no idea how to run your business (technically speaking), this is a lost cause :(

May. 16, 2017
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Seconded, especially since for my faves (old school RPGs) Galaxy has been notoriously buggy and known in the individual game forums to be prone to cause glitches that do not occur when the games are installed traditionally ...

May. 12, 2017
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No matter how many times you say it is not DRM a program that requires itself to be open first before it allows you to use another program is DRM. Especially when there does not seem to be an option to uninstall.

May. 11, 2017
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For the record, here's how MANY people are against this decision. <a href="https://www.gog.com/forum/general/offline_installers_with_an_option_to_install_gog_galaxy" class="light_un" target="_blank">https://www.gog.com/forum/general/offline_installers_with_an_option_to_install_gog_galaxy</a>

May. 11, 2017
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I'm really angry about that stupid move of GOG!

May. 11, 2017
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For the multiplayer focused titles, I can see why GOG would want to bundle Galaxy (like they did for the launch of Alien vs. Predator). Making it the default setting the offline installers of every game would be a mistake. What purpose is there in having Galaxy installed for a 10 year old single player rpg? Make it opt in!

May. 10, 2017
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How large is Galaxy? Will every offline installer grow that much? <br /> I'm not liking this one bit.

May. 10, 2017
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Exactly. Do not try to force an optional client onto people who don't like it,or don't want it. I also find it insulting that you think your customers are so stupid, that you think they would not be able to tick a checkbox that says "Download GOG Galaxy with the installer.". I use Galaxy, but you said it would be optional, keep it that way.

May. 10, 2017
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Don't force people to use your "optional" bloatware, the day you do is the day you lose your supporting community, and gog without it's community is dead meat

May. 10, 2017
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You'd better be careful, GOG! Right at the moment we are still voting on here on the wishlist. But we might start voting with our wallets.

May. 10, 2017
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Obviously​, by using offline installers we have already made our choice about Galaxy client.

May. 10, 2017
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No, no, no, no, no! So GOG is thinking of all their new customers? If they continue this road they will more likely lose their old ones. A sad day indeed - and all I can do for now is to vote for this with all of my heart!

May. 10, 2017
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No thanks GOG, I do not wish to have any of the offline installers to be bloated with Galaxy. The offline installers are meant to be "offline". Why the hell would anyone want Galaxy with those? Remove this BS, pronto.

May. 10, 2017
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Please GOG, don't chase me away by trying to force Galaxy on unaware customers!

May. 9, 2017
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Quote from the GOG team: <br /> "As for the option being opted in as default - after careful consideration, we've decided to go with this because we believe that it's easier for an experienced user to uncheck the box than it would be for a new user to figure out how to turn the feature on." <br /> <br /> Which basically means GOG just publicly announced they think of their customers as complete mindless idiots who can't even choose on their own what they want.

May. 9, 2017
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Don't do this GOG, you can't be this stupid, surely. <br /> <br /> As if passive-agressively pushing unwanted features on your loyal users that betray a DRM free game collection isn't bad enough, are you really going to be so flippant about wasting people's time and hard drive space with this unwanted, unnecessary software?

May. 9, 2017
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Also, make it an optional external download. <br /> Let's not add an additional 150Mb to every installer!

May. 9, 2017
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Please don't pollute our offline installers. It's the only reason I buy GOG.

May. 9, 2017
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