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Don't make installing Galaxy the default setting in standalone game installers

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Include an OPTION to download Galaxy if you must (opt-IN, not opt-OUT), perhaps something as simple as a prompt to open the GOG Galaxy webpage. But don't bundle a full Galaxy install into every game installer, and for gods' sake, don't make people have to uncheck an option in order to NOT install Galaxy.

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I pity idiots not using GOG Galaxy or Steam

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I just wanted to open a thread but was happy to find this. A little time ago I noticed that there was a new default "Galaxy Installers" vs. "Classic Installers". WTF?! I do not want Galaxy. I do not want to be force-fed some client software upon me. I want it the old way. Buy. Download. Install. Have fun. <br /> I had downloaded 8 GB already through a rather narrow connection until I noticed this (g) in the filenames... aaarrrgh! <br /> <br /> Besides: Galaxy does not work on Linux and I do use Linux 95% of the day. I try to avoid rebooting to Windows for games, where possible, but even then, I do not want some client software forced upon me. <br /> <br /> So GOG please stop this shit! <br /> People that do use Galaxy will very likely not need "galaxy installers" because they download the whole thing with Galaxy anyway. I am terminally sure your Galaxy API features some bits to check for newly acquired games and can download them. So there is no need for "galaxy installers".

Dec. 5, 2017
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Everyone and their dog is trying to push you their software that makes your life "nicer" and "more convenient". To me GoG isn't about that, it's about pure organic no-sugar no-bullshit DRM-free games that work. <br /> <br /> Gamers are technical users. You can trust us to be able to decide for ourselves if we want a "feature".

Nov. 26, 2017
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Personally, I think Galaxy is fantastic and SHOULD be the default. Automatic game updates, achievements for supported games, easy library management - all things that have tempted me towards GOG, not away from it. Anyone dumping GOG for Steam is just...confused.

Nov. 21, 2017
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Yeah, I agree. Just installed Kathy Rain and GOG, without asking is installing GOG Galaxy. I just hate this, if this continues I just will look for DRM free and 'extra layer' free games elswhere.

Nov. 21, 2017
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As a customer who apparently had been buying only the 'right' games up until now I only really grasped the core of this problem upon receiving 'Tales from the Borderlands' as a bonus for buying a bunch of cheap games I felt vaguely nostalgic about. You see, for me all of my games came in the form of what GOG likes to call the "CLASSIC GAME INSTALLERS" (mind the allcaps, folks...) which install the following components: The game you've bought. Congratulations GOG! That's exactly what we wanted. Good job. <br /> <br /> But if a customer makes the mistake of purchasing 'wrong' games, their installer-selection defaults to the 'wrong' installer. In detail that means they have to notice this before downloading the majority of a 9.7 GB installation, delete all those filthy, Galaxy infested files, select the classic installer and start again. <br /> <br /> However, I do believe GOG is just 'misguided' in this matter. Listen, GOG: We don't need you to bring up that we have a choice by secretly slipping that installer into our pockets like Ronald McDonald showing up at a vegan brunch, handing out coupons for his newest, meatiest hamburger. "We'd rather not have it. Thank you. Now go home to your wife and kids. They miss you. And take those bloody coupons with you. If we ever 'do' want to try Galaxy, all we need to do is to click that big blue button that you display over every. Single. Game! Goodbye."

Nov. 5, 2017
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Yes, un-default Galaxy. Galaxy is bloatware and uses WebKit (or should I say WebShit?)

Nov. 3, 2017
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@CelineSSauve - defaulting to galaxy installers and hiding direct installers is certainly a very underhanded thing to do, but *protesting* by buying from Steam is just supporting a client that is mandatory. I would at least first check if Humble Store has a DRM-free download (not just a Steam code) of the game you are looking for.

Nov. 2, 2017
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I am now purchasing from STEAM again because GOG pulled this.

Oct. 28, 2017
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Just to clarify something for the readers, the next comment says Galaxy doesn't have a "minimize to tray"-option. <br /> No, because that is default. Hit the X and Galaxy minimizes to tray.

Oct. 27, 2017
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I'm new to GOG and Galaxy having just purchased my first game from here. I'm glad I read this post because I echo everything others have said and am now convinced that I want to download my games using JDownloader instead of Galaxy. <br /> <br /> Given that download times are so long it is clear that the best time to download is while sleeping. In my case my bandwidth is limited unless I download between 11pm and 7am but Galaxy provides no such option. Heck, it doesn't even have a minimize to systray option!

Oct. 26, 2017
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I agree with all these comments but no one has said how long it takes to download a a game they have bought from GOG. My last 2 games I have bought have taken more than 24 hours just to download non stop. Ihave complained about this and been asked what downloader I was using.?? this is bying from GOG there isn`t an alterative. If so many people are loged into GOG this could be the reason for the slowness. my speeds down loading dispite being on BT fastest has been .6MB/s to the fastest 2MB/s and the fastesst is for a couple of seconds only.

Oct. 23, 2017
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By not updating and maintaining the OLD DOWN LOADER, GOG is, in their own way, slowly FORCING it's supporters to ultimately use GALAXY. <br /> <br /> Sooner or later the old down loader will no longer function properly leaving ONLY....... GALAXY. <br /> <br /> I don't appreciate this one bit. As another writer posted, once you start, it's a slippery slope..... straight downhill. And, I see hints of changes within GOG's initial promise to us that don't bode well. <br /> <br /> But the name of the game is..... MONEY. And GALAXY is that for GOG. <br /> <br /> I don't play on line. Don't want GALAXY shoved down my throat (or computer) and feel GOG should maintain the old down loader for those who DON'T need.... NEW and IMPROVED every two minutes.

Oct. 5, 2017
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Once you start down the path of bundling adware/malware/unwanted programs, GOG, you are going to have a hard time recovering from that reputation. I was actually using/enjoying Galaxy prior to this, but I'm uninstalling it now and I had to redownload about 10 games that I had downloaded the WRONG (Galaxy bundled) installer for, not knowing about the change. My hard drive space is valuable, I don't have room for your redundant junk.

Oct. 2, 2017
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I completely agree with the other posters. Not having a client being forced on me is the main reason I'm using GOG at all. I can't be the only one who hates having to laboriously opt-out of stuff he didn't sign up for in the first place.

Sep. 23, 2017
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@Destro and other GOG staff; <br /> Installing GOG Galaxy is something that should not be a defaulted-on option. Making it available is one thing, but including it and installing it by default is unacceptable. Most of the GOG customer base comes here for not just for the DRM-free standard, but most of us do not and will not play online. Nor to we want a yet another program running when we start-up our systems. It's the wrong move especially given the spirit of ideals GOG was founded on.

Sep. 22, 2017
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I understand that gog is trying to establish itself as an alternative to steam but right now its looking as if this service is turning into a second steam client. The only reason i use gog is the fact that it is not steam and does not require a client. If this changes, why should anyone stay on gog and not simply switch to steam ?

Sep. 22, 2017
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Last time I checked "Optional" didn't mean "Default", not only that but the description only changes one word when you click on classic installer. It still mentions galaxy whether you've selected that version or not. I shouldn't have to be eagle-eyed and cautious when looking at my own game library.

Sep. 19, 2017
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You all DO realize you can just click on the "more" option and chose "classic installer" for games that are by default set to Galaxy installers, right? Therefore GOG Galaxy is NOT enforced on you. <br /> An example is Darkest Dungeon. <br />

Aug. 31, 2017
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im an Archivist and though its small, come 100 titles that small becomes large. Default to no Galaxy installers or create a toggle.

Aug. 31, 2017
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I just want to say that making the default download for games the Galaxy installer is a complete dick move.

Aug. 29, 2017
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How is forcing us to install GOG Galaxy during a game install DRM free. Making me uninstall the GOG utility every time will stop me from buying games from your sight. I came here for my game collection not Steam for that reason. We should have the choice you sold us that it is our software to own. If you play like Steam people will go to Steam to get there games not GOG.

Aug. 22, 2017
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Exactly, don't turn into a DRM-first website. That's not why people buy on GOG. It's because the players get to choose, I myself am turning away from Steam because it's so anoying to have yet another program installed, it's another layer and I just want my games to be a clean install, no whistles and bells.

Aug. 12, 2017
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OK so apparently most (all?) games with this bundling have non-Galaxy install versions. <br /> <br /> The question is WHY? Apart from pissing off customers (not only those that don't want it, but those that don't want to download the same crap added to every game!), from a software development & support standpoint it's seriously moronic. Unless someone is going to tell me that re-bundling every game in the catalog every time a new version of Galaxy comes out is somehow better than just having a stand-alone Galaxy install and a stand-alone game install? <br /> <br /> FFS, just stick a library or two into each game download - which handles all the Galaxy-to-game communication - and get the game to look for Galaxy. If it's there, use it. If it's not, then ignore it! <br /> <br /> It's really not that difficult, and you'd think that people who can get old games to work on new systems (which GOG does a pretty damn good job at), would be aware of basic software development principles such as code modularity...

Aug. 11, 2017
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I've noticed a few of my games now seem to come with Galaxy by default - it's a pain to uninstall it every time (I don't use it at all). The whole point of standalone install files is for people to avoid having to use Galaxy. Forcing it on us negates the good feeling GOG normally generates in fans. Please remove Galaxy from the standalone installs.

Aug. 8, 2017
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pls dnt put Galaxy by default, a French Canadian asking pls.

Aug. 5, 2017
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Just downloaded the new installer for something and was sad to see the only download was bundled with Galaxy. I've almost entirely stopped buying games on Steam because I don't want to have to deal with the overlay. <br /> <br /> Incredible shame that the DRM-free aspect of gaming that GoG built its reputation and renown on is now being forced to the background so it can become just another Steam.

Aug. 2, 2017
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Just goes to show how bent GOG are on not understanding people's view who are critical of Galaxy being forced down our necks at every nook and cranny on this site. It's a mirror of their mentality these days. They aren't the same company they once were, fighting for DRM Free and various forms of customer friendly and fair practices. I miss those days, I really do. At least there was an alternative to the steam parasite back then. These days... I don't know. Technically still a choice, but for how long..? Clear as day where they are heading.

Jul. 26, 2017
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The point of this wish is to make the NON-GALAXY installer the default instead of the other way around. Don't play dumb, GOG.

Jul. 22, 2017
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For every game that includes GOG Galaxy to support in-game features (that otherwise would not work), you can also download a "classic" installer without GOG Galaxy. You have a choice.

Jul. 21, 2017
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Galaxy is supposed to be optional, yet it's being shoved down customers' throats at every chance. If I wanted games from clients, I'd go to steam.

Jul. 19, 2017
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I enjoy Galaxy, but it should not be mandatory in my opinion; regardless, I find it convinient...but to each their own, right?

Jul. 14, 2017
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There is a warning, but it doesn't make it better...

Jul. 13, 2017
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Bundling Galaxy into games and installing it as default without prior warning is NOT COOL. <br /> <br /> Dear GOG, I buy from you because I trust you won't put crap into my games. I consider Galaxy to be crap but I'm okay with it as long as you don't bother me with it. However, if you add Galaxy into your installers and force me to go through some hoops to not have it installed, then I'll trust you no more, and you will be no better than those pirate sites where I have to keep my guard up not to get herpes. <br /> <br /> So I will stop buying from you, plain and simple.

Jul. 13, 2017
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How standalone installer for all games is better than a plataform to unify all your libary? <br /> <br /> I'd just like to keep it optional instead of forcing everyone to have it; The simple argument of 'everyone is using Galaxy, we don't need to support the old way of installing our products' is one that is plausible - they have already did that with the older gog downloader - hence the concern. <br /> <br /> <br /> How you sync your archievments without the galaxy? <br /> <br /> How about someone who does not care about achievements, and the firm belief that it is only something for people with a need for rewards; that smug feeling of satisfaction for collecting that 1000th kill of the same enemy that you grew tired of killing days ago? <br /> <br /> Play with friends? chat? ... If u want a standalone game buy the dvd T.T <br /> <br /> Play with friends? I open up a command prompt and type 'ipconfig /all' I use my external IP address and my 'friends' connect to my IP. <br /> <br /> As for chatting, I don't know about you, but I have a dedicated chat program. <br /> <br /> The trouble is - no one is selling stand-alone dvd games anymore - go to one of the few remaining brick and mortar stores; the selection continues to drop, unless you could facebook cards and steam cards.

Jul. 12, 2017
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sorry but ... it's a stupid idea. <br /> How standalone installer for all games is better than a plataform to unify all your libary? wtf? How you sync your archievments without the galaxy? Play with friends? chat? ... If u want a standalone game buy the dvd T.T

Jul. 11, 2017
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I think this is a step in the wrong direction. Like Cifer84 said I'm afraid that this is only the first step of GOG Galaxy, the NON-optional client. Or why do you think it's necessary to bundle an optional client in each installer? Please GOG let the user decide to use Galaxy or not. The ones who will give it a try will also do so without wasting the space in each standalone installer.

Jul. 8, 2017
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I... personally don't mind this bundling, but probably because I'm happy with Galaxy anyway. Maybe a unified installer could be created, with a selection whether to install with or without it? I can see the benefits of making it easier to update. Alternatively, it could be installed by default, but designed to be modular enough that it can be purely a game updater without impacting resources? <br /> <br /> I guess the other point is if they have had to reverse engineer something like an installer to get it working, it makes more sense to use their own installer solution anyway... Particularly for games that formerly included built-in update functions which are now obsolete. <br /> <br /> TL;DR I don't mind a gog/galaxy installer for games if the default option doesn't slow things down

Jun. 27, 2017
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Not all games seem to be bundled with Galaxy (so far I've only encountered 1) but they are out there. I thought there was a Gogmix list but can't find it. The real issue here is when functionality starts to be dropped to force you to use (or log in with) Galaxy. Examples are multiplayer in Alien versus Predator and Rise of the Triad 2013, both of which should work without.

Jun. 27, 2017
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Ummm.... what are you guys even talking about here? i've downloaded quite a few games off the website recently that never installed GOG Galaxy. Is it games where GOG Galaxy has enabled online multiplayer again that have it, because in that case I can understand why they've done this. But seriously, I downloaded games just two days ago that didn't have Galaxy bundled with it, so it really looks like you guys are raging about an issue that doesn't exist.

Jun. 20, 2017
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I use Linux for Work and Windows for play. Galaxy won't work in old operational system so should not be mandatory to play since there are a lot o people who like older games that can't be played in modern SO

Jun. 17, 2017
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Better yet, start supporting Downloader again, that was a better program than Galaxy, and it never tried to be a backdoor DRM scheme, with Galaxy the promises GOG is built on are getting pretty hollow.

Jun. 16, 2017
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Voting with my wallet, I suggest everyone else do the same; I didn't buy into the windows 10 'install without clear user acceptance' junk, I'm sure as hell not doing it with GOG. It's got me really reconsidering supporting GOG in the future. Boycotts do work, but the build up has to be considerable before it actually starts to hurt companies with 'cash reserves'.

Jun. 14, 2017
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I'm probably in the minority here as someone who is still using windows Vista which is an operating system that galaxy no longer supports and I REALLY would hate it if galaxy becomes a requirement to download and install games and I really don't have the money to get a better operating system and I really don't want windows 10 since older games become increasingly difficult to run newer operating systems. So, please don't force us to use galaxy at some point in the future.

Jun. 10, 2017
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Please GOG,keep Galaxy out of your game installers,and make it optional like you promised in the first place.

Jun. 8, 2017
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Is this no longer a thing? Ive downloaded several of my games from the website without GOG galaxy and i haven't even been asked to install it if i didn't deliberately download the client. <br /> <br /> Did they realise it was a bad idea and changed their mind?

Jun. 5, 2017
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We were told that Galaxy would be ENTIRELY optional but lately it feels as if it's being forced more and more on us. Gwent only has an installer for Galaxy which then downloads the game. Sorry but that is BS. Installers should be standalone and DRM free. You can stuff Gwent until you make it Galaxy and DRM free.

May. 28, 2017
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Step by step to DRM: They try as many of us as possible to use GOG Galaxy and in some years they can say "80 % of our customers use GOG Galaxy and therefore it's not economical to offer the "classical download" anymore, GOG Galaxy for everyone, because we want to offer you the best service". Pretty sad, because DRM is no service.

May. 19, 2017
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This is why I save all my installers after I buy a game and decide to update them or not. That being said, if "Bad clone of steam", or when, it is finally forced upon me just to play a GOOD old (or new) game, I am closing my account.

May. 17, 2017
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It simply HAS to be opt-in, else you're making Galaxy optional only if looked from a "legal" standpoint. Turns out your customers don't care if you "legally" kept your promise; opt-out is at the very least an underhanded move and it won't be tolerated. It will lead your loyal customer base away. You're going to lose more customers from this than you're gonna get in exchange. <br /> A link to Galaxy's download page during the installation looks like the ideal solution.

May. 16, 2017
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