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Hello guys, I have a question to ask.

As I like to listen to game music, I quickly found the Ys VIII - Lacrimosa of DANA\bgm folder and, like with the music of every other game of the Ys series, wanted to listen to it.

Thing is that although the music files are there as .ogg files, I can't play them this time.
One player can't render the files, another doesn't have the right decoder for this format while other players just skip the files entirely.

So... What the hell did they do to the music files? Is there a way to listen to them or did they screw with it so that the music is really only played in the game itself? I fear it is like that, but I still want to be sure about this, because it would be quite another disappointment to add...
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Veoryascaleth: Hello guys, I have a question to ask.

As I like to listen to game music, I quickly found the Ys VIII - Lacrimosa of DANA\bgm folder and, like with the music of every other game of the Ys series, wanted to listen to it.

Thing is that although the music files are there as .ogg files, I can't play them this time.
One player can't render the files, another doesn't have the right decoder for this format while other players just skip the files entirely.

So... What the hell did they do to the music files? Is there a way to listen to them or did they screw with it so that the music is really only played in the game itself? I fear it is like that, but I still want to be sure about this, because it would be quite another disappointment to add...
I seem to recall someone in the steam forum say something about some kind of encryption being put on the OGG music files unfortunately :(. It's a shame too as the soundtrack is truly amazing to the point where I actually bought it off Amazon after playing the PS4 version since there was no telling if/when a PC release was coming at the time...

At least the OGG music files are playable via normal players in all the other PC versions of the Ys games, including the recent port of Ys Seven. Of the Falcom games I have on PC, I think this, Xanadu Next, and Tokyo Xanadu (which both use some proprietary audio format instead of OGG) are the only ones that don't effectively come with a free copy of the soundtrack.
Thank you very much.

So after all things that happened, went wrong and still go wrong, they even encrypted the music...

Maybe I'm just spoilt from the other games -.-
FYI, if you have access to Spotify you can find the music for all Falcom titles under the name "Falcom Sound Team jdk".

Here are links to the YS8 album (vol.1, 2, and 3):

https://open.spotify.com/album/3FmsJmzeYYCJW3SRq1vyPp?si=QKw3f55-Sz24W_dIecrAtw
https://open.spotify.com/album/474ZBzCnX9dmVkR5CW0m7y?si=5OPLWOG0RgCp8k3l6NY3KA
https://open.spotify.com/album/1ZmwMWoqlCaNOYlD6XsNAe?si=dH-z47wORcmxqlpDOOXafg
Post edited April 19, 2018 by senbon
Or you can just descramble the game's OGGs. :)

I wrote a program to descramble and rescramble those files after I saw the method used to descramble them posted to the steam community fourms. Not sure if it's against the rules to post a link or not... Anyone wanna weigh in on that? I'll post the link if it's not against the rules.

Although, given that NISA took the steps to "protect" the BGMs, I'm not sure but does that qualify as DRM? Considering every other Ys series game has audio files you can just open in VLC and listen to out of the box, it seems like DRM to me.

If descrambling the OGGs isn't within your morals / ethics, you can always buy the OST from iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/ys-viii-lacrimosa-of-dana-original-soundtrack-complete/1262211951
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phibbs: Not sure if it's against the rules to post a link or not... Anyone wanna weigh in on that?
How can it be against the rules to say "for every byte: xor with 0xF0 and rotate by 4".

I was fairly sure I already had mentioned this somewhere.
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phibbs: Not sure if it's against the rules to post a link or not... Anyone wanna weigh in on that?
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J_Darnley: How can it be against the rules to say "for every byte: xor with 0xF0 and rotate by 4".

I was fairly sure I already had mentioned this somewhere.
The same way that applying ROT26 is considered a "technological protection measure." ;)

What's important legally is the intent of the author not the protection's effectiveness.
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phibbs: What's important legally is the intent of the author not the protection's effectiveness.
That depends on the jurisdiction. IIRC Norway and/or Sweden requires the encryption to be effective to given protection by the law.

Anyway, fuck 'em. They spent too much time encrypting their audio files and not enough time making a port that works.
Bought the game, you have the game, you can do whatever you want with the files. If a developer not like this then don't release a game. Of course you can't upload the game but you can upload any tool or share any method that can decrypt it. Not even Denuvo can do anything against that because it is legal to mod the game despite what the developers says.
EDIT: nevermind
Post edited February 02, 2019 by Kafin25
Well, I'm a bit late here, but just tested and I can open and play the OGG files on the bgm folder without any issues.
After reading the latest update changelog, on the "Stability & Performace" part it says: "Faster I/O: Removed superfluous asset encryption". That would explan why the music can be opened with any music player now...
Anyways, it's so cool that the OGGs can be played outside the game, the music of this game is AMAZING. XD
all relevant data is unencrypted, so even it is possible to make fan translations into other languages than englisch, french, japanise (interesting for modders.)