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Posted September 11, 2019
Wizardry 8 remains one of my favorite CRPGs, but after playing through it so many times I find myself noticing more and more big flaws. It is to be expected given its age, not even Ultima 7 has aged gracefully, but there are some problems I find myself getting more fed up with: one of which are the NPC party members. Vi Domina and RFS are awesome, but the others range from annoying to useless to endearing to useless. The fact they won’t accompany you everywhere is also stupid.
Is there perhaps a mod that lets you make two more party members at the start? I’d like to just make a full 8 person party at the start and not worry about the optional party members. I suspect I won’t be able to compete the Umpani and T’Rang peace sidequest, but It doesn’t have a huge impact on the game anyway.
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Posted September 11, 2019
8 party members mod does not exist, atm,
as the maximum of 6 "real" party members is hardcoded.

However it is rather easy to add RPCs of your preference to the game in your own mod:
get madgods Cosmic Forge Editor here,
install and run Cosmic Forge, select the NPC editor, in it select any NPC,
select to "Create New ..." and select the RPC which fits best to min the required changes.
Adjust all parameters on both tabs for RPC parameters and spells.
Now the character requires an NPC script so he can be talked to and hired,
and an RPC script to work in party.
For an otherwise unmodded Wiz8, the fastest way to get an NPC script out of the game archives so that you can work on it,
is to open the desired NPC with NPC Editor, go to NPC script tab,
there select any script block, e.g. 0,
then "Add Quote", instantly delete the new quote, and save the script file(its located in \data\npc scripts),
now adjust at least the quotes in block 0, 1, 12 and 13 to fit to your character whe nyou hire him.
Repeat for 2nd desired PC.
Similar for the 2 characters RPC scripts.

Speechsets for those new NPCs:
You can use the existing speechsets to save much effort, 1st select "miscellaneous" in CF main menu,
navigate to \wiz8Installdir\data\sound and select to open the file sound.slf,
extract the folders "NPCS" and "PCS", they contain all NPC respectively RPC and PC sound files.

The sound set you like to have must be renamed appropriately to be recoggnized by the game,
the naming convention should be rather clear if you look at the files for an existing RPC,
basically the script file name in NPC editor "general parameters" tab is the base file name,
with either "NPC_" respectively "RPC_" in front of it and the related script block ID added at the end.

This has the advantage that you can still park your 2 artificial PCs and do any quest which require to recruit someone,
last not least the free choice of race and portrait without the need to read an even longer explanation for that,
than the wall of text above ;)

p.s.
If you want to use an existing PC speech set, you have to copy the lines one by one from:
CF main menu -> String Editors -> PC Quotes Editor < desired characterand paste them into the RPC script,
this is probably the most time consuming part of the whole.
(to rename all .mp3 files in one go, you can use e.g. the free program IfanView -> "batch conversion/rename")
Posted September 11, 2019
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townltu: 8 party members mod does not exist, atm,
as the maximum of 6 "real" party members is hardcoded.

However it is rather easy to add RPCs of your preference to the game in your own mod:
get madgods Cosmic Forge Editor here,
install and run Cosmic Forge, select the NPC editor, in it select any NPC,
select to "Create New ..." and select the RPC which fits best to min the required changes.
Adjust all parameters on both tabs for RPC parameters and spells.
Now the character requires an NPC script so he can be talked to and hired,
and an RPC script to work in party.
For an otherwise unmodded Wiz8, the fastest way to get an NPC script out of the game archives so that you can work on it,
is to open the desired NPC with NPC Editor, go to NPC script tab,
there select any script block, e.g. 0,
then "Add Quote", instantly delete the new quote, and save the script file(its located in \data\npc scripts),
now adjust at least the quotes in block 0, 1, 12 and 13 to fit to your character whe nyou hire him.
Repeat for 2nd desired PC.
Similar for the 2 characters RPC scripts.

Speechsets for those new NPCs:
You can use the existing speechsets to save much effort, 1st select "miscellaneous" in CF main menu,
navigate to \wiz8Installdir\data\sound and select to open the file sound.slf,
extract the folders "NPCS" and "PCS", they contain all NPC respectively RPC and PC sound files.

The sound set you like to have must be renamed appropriately to be recoggnized by the game,
the naming convention should be rather clear if you look at the files for an existing RPC,
basically the script file name in NPC editor "general parameters" tab is the base file name,
with either "NPC_" respectively "RPC_" in front of it and the related script block ID added at the end.

This has the advantage that you can still park your 2 artificial PCs and do any quest which require to recruit someone,
last not least the free choice of race and portrait without the need to read an even longer explanation for that,
than the wall of text above ;)

p.s.
If you want to use an existing PC speech set, you have to copy the lines one by one from:
CF main menu -> String Editors -> PC Quotes Editor < desired characterand paste them into the RPC script,
this is probably the most time consuming part of the whole.
(to rename all .mp3 files in one go, you can use e.g. the free program IfanView -> "batch conversion/rename")
Thanks! I will try this out sometime, been meaning to experiment with the Cosmic Forge anyway.
Posted September 28, 2019
The issue that no one will follow you everywhere is directly tied to the alliance storyline.

--RPCs can't be put into PC slots...almost certainly hardcoded.
--2 RPC slots...almost certainly hardcoded.
--2 specific RPCs are required to complete the alliance storyline.

So what they did, was to say no RPC would go into the WIlderness Clearing. Some of the others are equally obvious...an Umpani isn't gonna go willingly into T'Rang territory, a T'Rang will avoid the Umpani camp. A Trynnie isn't gonna go anywhere near the Rapax.

They could've done it that, say, RFS would go into the wilderness clearing and you could dismiss him somewhere in there, but the T'rang/Umpani wouldn't do that. So, they simply made the implementation consistent.
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