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Yakkuz: Mmm... i don't get "Executioner" letting Roche kill Henselt...mmm...wtf?
strange, I didn't let him kill Henselt, and as far as i remember i still get it... But i can't check.
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Yakkuz: Mmm... i don't get "Executioner" letting Roche kill Henselt...mmm...wtf?
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Demoniko: strange, I didn't let him kill Henselt, and as far as i remember i still get it... But i can't check.
I might have been wrong, but I got it right at the start of chapter 3, and that was the last thing I did in chapter 2.

Edit: Played through it 2 more times. When I stopped Roche from killing Henselt I didn't get the executioner ability, while when I let him kill Henselt I got the ability at the first cutscene afterwards. It might be that it requires more, but atleast that is what triggered it for me.
Post edited June 08, 2011 by B0stra
I did not get it for killing Hensett, either, but I spared both Aryan and Adam Pangratt. Perhaps you have to kill one or both of them. I'll go back to an old save, kill Pangratt and see if that changes anything.

It looks that the abilities that are still eluding us are Rugged, Veteran/Seasoned in Battle, Healthy Eating, Toxic Blood, Minesweeper, Precision and Pirouette. I think Minesweeper probably has something to do with all the snares in Chapter 1. I don't know if it inolves detecting them with the medallion, disarming them, setting them or getting caught in them, but is what comes to mind. Healthy Eating may have something to do with potions, since they seem to be the only thing you can eat. Toxic Blood may have something to do with maintaining a high level of toxicity or reaching the limit.

One of the abilities is probably on Iorveth's path in Chapter 2. So far, we have 4 exclusive to Roche's Path and 3 to Iorveth's, so it may balance out.

Edit: I have tried it multiple ways. I've saved Pangrett, Iorveth, mentioned Ves and then let Roche kill Henselt. I've killed Pangrett, saved Iorveth, mentioned Ves and killed Henselt. I've killed Pangrett, left Iorveth to his fate, mentioned Ves and killed Henselt. I've killed Henselt without mentioning Ves. Every combination I have tried, I've failed to get the Executioner ability. I may go back further, to the trolls and kill them to see if that changes anything. It may be necessary to kill every optional character up to that point. I've generally spared them. Did you kill the Troll of Flotsom? The Trolls of Vergen. Also, at that point in the game, I have 14 abilities unlocked. Is there a maximum number? It's possible only so many can be unlocked in one playthrough.
Post edited June 08, 2011 by Mr0TYuH
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Mr0TYuH: I did not get it for killing Hensett, either, but I spared both Aryan and Adam Pangratt. Perhaps you have to kill one or both of them. I'll go back to an old save, kill Pangratt and see if that changes anything.

It looks that the abilities that are still eluding us are Rugged, Veteran/Seasoned in Battle, Healthy Eating, Toxic Blood, Minesweeper, Precision and Pirouette. I think Minesweeper probably has something to do with all the snares in Chapter 1. I don't know if it inolves detecting them with the medallion, disarming them, setting them or getting caught in them, but is what comes to mind. Healthy Eating may have something to do with potions, since they seem to be the only thing you can eat. Toxic Blood may have something to do with maintaining a high level of toxicity or reaching the limit.

One of the abilities is probably on Iorveth's path in Chapter 2. So far, we have 4 exclusive to Roche's Path and 3 to Iorveth's, so it may balance out.

Edit: I have tried it multiple ways. I've saved Pangrett, Iorveth, mentioned Ves and then let Roche kill Henselt. I've killed Pangrett, saved Iorveth, mentioned Ves and killed Henselt. I've killed Pangrett, left Iorveth to his fate, mentioned Ves and killed Henselt. I've killed Henselt without mentioning Ves. Every combination I have tried, I've failed to get the Executioner ability. I may go back further, to the trolls and kill them to see if that changes anything. It may be necessary to kill every optional character up to that point. I've generally spared them. Did you kill the Troll of Flotsom? The Trolls of Vergen. Also, at that point in the game, I have 14 abilities unlocked. Is there a maximum number? It's possible only so many can be unlocked in one playthrough.
I too tried to have it on my this playthrough but i couldn't, and i had 14 abilities just like you. I had the ability in my first playthrough and i wasn't chasing abilities in that one. So it is highly possible there is a cap.
Post edited June 09, 2011 by callofstalker
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Mr0TYuH: I did not get it for killing Hensett, either, but I spared both Aryan and Adam Pangratt. Perhaps you have to kill one or both of them. I'll go back to an old save, kill Pangratt and see if that changes anything.

It looks that the abilities that are still eluding us are Rugged, Veteran/Seasoned in Battle, Healthy Eating, Toxic Blood, Minesweeper, Precision and Pirouette. I think Minesweeper probably has something to do with all the snares in Chapter 1. I don't know if it inolves detecting them with the medallion, disarming them, setting them or getting caught in them, but is what comes to mind. Healthy Eating may have something to do with potions, since they seem to be the only thing you can eat. Toxic Blood may have something to do with maintaining a high level of toxicity or reaching the limit.

One of the abilities is probably on Iorveth's path in Chapter 2. So far, we have 4 exclusive to Roche's Path and 3 to Iorveth's, so it may balance out.

Edit: I have tried it multiple ways. I've saved Pangrett, Iorveth, mentioned Ves and then let Roche kill Henselt. I've killed Pangrett, saved Iorveth, mentioned Ves and killed Henselt. I've killed Pangrett, left Iorveth to his fate, mentioned Ves and killed Henselt. I've killed Henselt without mentioning Ves. Every combination I have tried, I've failed to get the Executioner ability. I may go back further, to the trolls and kill them to see if that changes anything. It may be necessary to kill every optional character up to that point. I've generally spared them. Did you kill the Troll of Flotsom? The Trolls of Vergen. Also, at that point in the game, I have 14 abilities unlocked. Is there a maximum number? It's possible only so many can be unlocked in one playthrough.
I killed Aryan the time I got the Executioner ability. Can't remember if I killed Adam Pangratt, but I did kill the 2 trolls in vergen. The troll in Flotsam I helped first (to get the money from the guy in Lobinden) before I killed him (to get the money from the guy in Flotsamn). Did not mention Ves when I spoke with Henselt and I saved Iorveth in the assault on Vergen.

If there is a cap im gonna stop getting persuasion/Intimidation. Axii sign almost always work.
Post edited June 09, 2011 by B0stra
regarding executioner abilitiy, there are also melena and claws of darkness quests, which end in a decision to let someone live or die. maybe they are all tied together, because i believe henselt is the last of such decision points. maybe you need to accumulate a certain ammount of blood on your hands. just throwing out ideas really :)
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eCos: regarding executioner abilitiy, there are also melena and claws of darkness quests, which end in a decision to let someone live or die. maybe they are all tied together, because i believe henselt is the last of such decision points. maybe you need to accumulate a certain ammount of blood on your hands. just throwing out ideas really :)
Mmm, im my game killed Aryan, i spared Malena, killed the two man of "Claw of Madness", spared the Trolls (I could NOT kill them, i love how they talk :D) and spared Adam.
I'll try killing also Adam.
I think trolls are not involved 'cause they're not human, but Aryan, Malena, the two Guys, Adam and henselt could certainly be linked.
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eCos: regarding executioner abilitiy, there are also melena and claws of darkness quests, which end in a decision to let someone live or die. maybe they are all tied together, because i believe henselt is the last of such decision points. maybe you need to accumulate a certain ammount of blood on your hands. just throwing out ideas really :)
Hmm... If that is amount based lets check how many do we need;

In my first play through i let Aryan live, Malena got send to the gallows, Aedernians in the claws of madness quest got delivered to the Nilfgaardian's ghost, helped Mavrick, let the trolls live, spared Adam pangratt's life and killed Henselt and i got the executioner.
Post edited June 09, 2011 by callofstalker
I ended up getting Arcane Knowledge and Conjurer after the Henselt decision, so if there is a cap involved, it may be tied to Act or level. Of course, I already had Conjurer, but I still got a message on the screen informing me of my new ability.

Let's see. Based on what others have written, I'm going to theorize that you have to turn in Malena and kill the Aedernians. These people are guilty of the crimes of which they are accused, just like Henselt. Yakkuz let Malena go, and I told the Aedernians to scram. Neither of us got the ability. You may need all three. Does anyone else have any infomation that may support or disprove this theory?

Edit: I just reread eCos's post, so I'll give him credit. First time I read the post, I thought he was talking generally about quests where people can die, such as New Boy. On the second reading, I realized he mentioned the exact same "decide the fate of killers" quests I mentioned.
Post edited June 09, 2011 by Mr0TYuH
okey, here the news/possibly clarification:

- David: Probably you need to kill JUST two golems, because i didn't have the ability before killing the Golem in the viper witcher's hideout (having killed only the one in the cave under the encampent) but i definetively had it before killing the fire golem in the Vergen Siege (Roche Path) and i don't remember other golems in cap 2.

- Strong back: I try losing a least 10 fistfigh with the blue stripes , but no ability at all. So maybe you have to lose fistfight during the quest or in prev chapters? Sincerly i don't know, but however i noticed FF is bugged 'cause the game don't "take" your bet when you lose, so practically you never lose money.

- Executioner:
Just killed henselt a few more time to be sure it was not a bug, and no, it wasn't.
I Loaded an old save, killed Adam, then kill Henselt and i GET the abilty.
So far i have ONLY killed/let be killed:
Aryan
The two aerdinians of "Claw of Madness"
Adam
Henselt

I had 13 ability before, so "Executioner" was the "14th.

Just a few random OT questions:
- When you killed Adam you can loot his Jagged Blade, but when you spare him i could not understand what he gave me, any suggestion?
- The Troll you find in cap2, near the place where soldiers are fighting wraiths and Rotfiend, in the little canyon is the one you encounter during the siege of Vergen quest?
Okay, the only possible pattern I'm seeing with getting Executioner when you kill Henselt is that you have to kill at least 4 people. The eligible candidates are Malena, Rupert, Gridley and Adam. If you kill 3 of these people and then Henselt, you seem to get the ability. Aryan does not seem to effect it. I don't know if others, such as Mavrick or Stennis (on Iorveth's path) count. If this is correct, it may not be necessary to kill Henselt. If someone has killed all 4 of those people, did you get the ability after killing Adam? Also, if someone killed Malena, Rupert and Gridley in Chapter 1 and took the Iorveth Path, if you gave Stennis to the mob, did you get the Executioner ability?

I'm pretty much grasping here.

Edit: Actually, there does seem to be an ability cap. When I gained Arcane Knowledge, I lost Batter. I don't know if this cap is one of the things preventing attaining Executioner, or, if like Arcane Knowledge, it would simply replace another ability if I meet the requirements.

As for what Adam gives you, he doesn't give you anything. It could be a bug. like with New Boy. After I escaped the Prison, New Boy said he gave me a book on dragons and the amulet. I got the book, but I the amulet never appeared in my inventory. I even dropped every non-quest item before the fight, so I'm sure I got nothing, and my orens remained the same.
Post edited June 10, 2011 by Mr0TYuH
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Mr0TYuH: Okay, the only possible pattern I'm seeing with getting Executioner when you kill Henselt is that you have to kill at least 4 people. The eligible candidates are Malena, Rupert, Gridley and Adam. If you kill 3 of these people and then Henselt, you seem to get the ability. Aryan does not seem to effect it. I don't know if others, such as Mavrick or Stennis (on Iorveth's path) count. If this is correct, it may not be necessary to kill Henselt. If someone has killed all 4 of those people, did you get the ability after killing Adam? Also, if someone killed Malena, Rupert and Gridley in Chapter 1 and took the Iorveth Path, if you gave Stennis to the mob, did you get the Executioner ability?

I'm pretty much grasping here.

Edit: Actually, there does seem to be an ability cap. When I gained Arcane Knowledge, I lost Batter. I don't know if this cap is one of the things preventing attaining Executioner, or, if like Arcane Knowledge, it would simply replace another ability if I meet the requirements.

As for what Adam gives you, he doesn't give you anything. It could be a bug. like with New Boy. After I escaped the Prison, New Boy said he gave me a book on dragons and the amulet. I got the book, but I the amulet never appeared in my inventory. I even dropped every non-quest item before the fight, so I'm sure I got nothing, and my orens remained the same.
Strange thing with Adam is, when he says he gives you a sword, you don't get a sword but in the next act i start with a silver sword in my inventory which i didn't have before Adam and didn't loot from anywhere. If that is the sword Pangratt gives you, it is not a big deal sword, just a mediocre silver sword. Or it is possible that you loot the sword from Philippa's quarters, in Iorveth's path she has a sword in her room, it is possible that she has a sword in her room in Roche's path too and though you do not have any time to take the sword as Henselt and his bodyguards come just after you enter and after killing the bodyguard and deciding Henselt's fate there are only cutscenes, it is possible the items are automatically looted. I must check this.

Nope. I got the sword before going into Philippa's quarters. But i am not sure where did i get it, generally i keep a track of all "special"(special as in there is only one of that item you can find) items i found during my expeditions so i can get them in later playthroughs but seems like this item has eluded me, twice, both in my first playthrough and in one of my more recent ones. The sword is named Nine Elves or something.

It's name is Naev'de Seidhe, which means Nine Elves so yes, it is named Nine Elves :P

Wonder why it got such a strange name, maybe it is a reference to the Ring Wraiths(though they weren't elves)? Or a reference to Viroledan Naev'de Feaine Glaeddyv?
Post edited June 10, 2011 by callofstalker
I got the parry ability yesterday which i think wasn't mentioned yet, and it wasn't on the witcher wiki so i added it.

Parry - "Chance of automatic riposte after blocking a blow: 10%. Requires the ability riposte in the swordsmanship tree." Earned by using riposte a certain number of times.

pretty neat ability!

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Yakkuz: okey, here the news/possibly clarification:

- David: Probably you need to kill JUST two golems, because i didn't have the ability before killing the Golem in the viper witcher's hideout (having killed only the one in the cave under the encampent) but i definetively had it before killing the fire golem in the Vergen Siege (Roche Path) and i don't remember other golems in cap 2.
I can confirm this. I got the "David" ability right after my second golem.
Post edited June 10, 2011 by Freaky_Freddy
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Mr0TYuH: Okay, the only possible pattern I'm seeing with getting Executioner when you kill Henselt is that you have to kill at least 4 people. The eligible candidates are Malena, Rupert, Gridley and Adam. If you kill 3 of these people and then Henselt, you seem to get the ability. Aryan does not seem to effect it. I don't know if others, such as Mavrick or Stennis (on Iorveth's path) count. If this is correct, it may not be necessary to kill Henselt. If someone has killed all 4 of those people, did you get the ability after killing Adam? Also, if someone killed Malena, Rupert and Gridley in Chapter 1 and took the Iorveth Path, if you gave Stennis to the mob, did you get the Executioner ability?

I'm pretty much grasping here.

Edit: Actually, there does seem to be an ability cap. When I gained Arcane Knowledge, I lost Batter. I don't know if this cap is one of the things preventing attaining Executioner, or, if like Arcane Knowledge, it would simply replace another ability if I meet the requirements.

As for what Adam gives you, he doesn't give you anything. It could be a bug. like with New Boy. After I escaped the Prison, New Boy said he gave me a book on dragons and the amulet. I got the book, but I the amulet never appeared in my inventory. I even dropped every non-quest item before the fight, so I'm sure I got nothing, and my orens remained the same.
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callofstalker: Strange thing with Adam is, when he says he gives you a sword, you don't get a sword but in the next act i start with a silver sword in my inventory which i didn't have before Adam and didn't loot from anywhere. If that is the sword Pangratt gives you, it is not a big deal sword, just a mediocre silver sword. Or it is possible that you loot the sword from Philippa's quarters, in Iorveth's path she has a sword in her room, it is possible that she has a sword in her room in Roche's path too and though you do not have any time to take the sword as Henselt and his bodyguards come just after you enter and after killing the bodyguard and deciding Henselt's fate there are only cutscenes, it is possible the items are automatically looted. I must check this.

Nope. I got the sword before going into Philippa's quarters. But i am not sure where did i get it, generally i keep a track of all "special"(special as in there is only one of that item you can find) items i found during my expeditions so i can get them in later playthroughs but seems like this item has eluded me, twice, both in my first playthrough and in one of my more recent ones. The sword is named Nine Elves or something.

It's name is Naev'de Seidhe, which means Nine Elves so yes, it is named Nine Elves :P

Wonder why it got such a strange name, maybe it is a reference to the Ring Wraiths(though they weren't elves)? Or a reference to Viroledan Naev'de Feaine Glaeddyv?
On Roche's path, Ioverth give me Naev'De Seidhe if i go saving him before going to search for Silè and Philippa. So no, actually Adam is "bugged", if you kill him you can loot his Jagged blade, so i assume if you spare him he should give you that blade.
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mbieda: Resistance to Magic: +20% Resistance to Magic

I think i got that after getting buff from places of power (those that give you protection, not sign power or regen)
Not sure if it was because I used them often or because I did use another one before the first went off... ah, it was in Flotsam woods

Hope it helps

Edit: bad tag closing -.-;
Could you confirm that you actually have it?
You're the only person I've heard mention having it.