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Valerianus: As a homosexual gamer, I was disappointed by the lack of homosexuality in the game. If BioWare can offer homosexuality in their games, why can't CD Projekt? Why can't Geralt start a romantic relationship with Roche or Iorveth? Why are there no male prostitutes? Why is it that Geralt can't have sex with elven men? Why can't we turn Geralt "gay"? Isn't choice part of being an RPG game?

CD Projekt, it's about time that we be a little more inclusive and acknowledge that homosexuals and bisexuals want their options, too.
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Roadking: At the risk of offending gays, and sounding Homophobic, thank you CDPR. Gay people are a minority and as such I am quite sick and tired of having homosexuality shoved down my throat (pun intended) every where I turn. Don't call me a hater, I don't hate anyone or any group. I am a white heterosexual male in my 50's; one of the most hated and despised groups in the world. Quite frankly it is a video game, No group has to be represented in any particular light. Its fantasy not a documentary. I suggest you get a few fairy friends together and start your own video game company and leave this one alone.
I'd give you +100 rep if I could. As a fellow hated old white guy I salute you LOL
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Shoved down your throat? Which game forced you to have homosexual affairs?
Sure sometimes in Bioware games a guy tries to flirt with you, but to be honest, if you don't prefer it, it's really not that oppressive and they usually stop, if you choose the "no way" kind of answer.

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Why all the hate? The guy is disappointed so what, it is his right to be sad about it. There are people here in the forum, that are disappointed they couldn't have an affair with Philippa or.. Saskia and we know how.. hot an affair with her could have become.
But I have to agree, changing an established figure just for political correctness reasons would be kinda over the top.
Sure Valerianus it is a role playing game that's right, but there are two ways of RP the one where you define the role of your character which Bioware with their nondescriptive heroes tries and the ones like the Witcher, with a clearly defined protagonist.
Just accept it like a book or a film, where the interest of the main character are defined and not your own choosing.
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TRVTRV: Very funny? You can't even be serious any heterosexual male would want to play a gay Geralt.

The way a treating homosexuality you want is nonsense in such a game. Go and watch gay porn or whatever you like but don't destroy a great fantasy universe by adding such nonsense.

I would never play a game were the main character is homosexual.

I really hate Bioware for Dragon Age 2. They destroyed the whole atmosphere of "Dragon Age" by making all character gay or bisexual. I was really frustrated to have to look after not choosing gay romancing answers as I didn't want my char to be a homo. FU Bioware.

Witcher 1&2 are the best RPGs for me. After playing first game I decided to read all books and enjoyed them. Never found any homosexuality in the books.
You may not want to, but there are straight men who would happily play a gay character. For instance:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/8768-Extra-Punctuation-Roleplaying-Homosexual-in-Dragon-Age-2

And you obviously weren't looking hard enough. :p Geralt is definitely straight, so I don't think he should be getting it on with other guys, because I think sticking to his character as presented in the books is important. BUT, if they created a spinoff game in the same universe where you got to play a brand new witcher, one that had never appeared before and was a blank slate, I think letting that character sleep with someone of the same gender should definitely be an option.
I completely agree with you. Summarizing to have the option without touching the main chracter core and background.

Well done.



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TRVTRV: Very funny? You can't even be serious any heterosexual male would want to play a gay Geralt.

The way a treating homosexuality you want is nonsense in such a game. Go and watch gay porn or whatever you like but don't destroy a great fantasy universe by adding such nonsense.

I would never play a game were the main character is homosexual.

I really hate Bioware for Dragon Age 2. They destroyed the whole atmosphere of "Dragon Age" by making all character gay or bisexual. I was really frustrated to have to look after not choosing gay romancing answers as I didn't want my char to be a homo. FU Bioware.

Witcher 1&2 are the best RPGs for me. After playing first game I decided to read all books and enjoyed them. Never found any homosexuality in the books.
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Raye: You may not want to, but there are straight men who would happily play a gay character. For instance:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/8768-Extra-Punctuation-Roleplaying-Homosexual-in-Dragon-Age-2

And you obviously weren't looking hard enough. :p Geralt is definitely straight, so I don't think he should be getting it on with other guys, because I think sticking to his character as presented in the books is important. BUT, if they created a spinoff game in the same universe where you got to play a brand new witcher, one that had never appeared before and was a blank slate, I think letting that character sleep with someone of the same gender should definitely be an option.
Don't want my hero to even give me the option to be a gay pussy. That'd take me so out of the game. He's a womanizer, being gay doesn't fit here from start till end.

There are good ideas, and then there is this thread ...
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TRVTRV: Very funny? You can't even be serious any heterosexual male would want to play a gay Geralt.

The way a treating homosexuality you want is nonsense in such a game. Go and watch gay porn or whatever you like but don't destroy a great fantasy universe by adding such nonsense.

I would never play a game were the main character is homosexual.
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BakedGoods: I'm just curious, you're obviously straight, and it was frustrating to have to 'dodge' gay answers in DA2--don't you think it would be equally frustrating for a gay person to have to dodge the 'straight' answers? Who's to say we should only cater to straight audiences?
Yeah, like my male Hawke got literaly JUMPED by the ladies, though he NEVER used any of the flirt dialogs. And by jumped I mean like "take me to bed or I'll never ever speak with you again!" WTF?
All the while Fenris, the perfect mate for the anti-mage playthrough, kept telling me "maybe another evening", after I activeley pursued him for ages. I don't know what is there to dodge?? It's all in your heads and it's obviously fear.

Oh and one word to prove that: LESBOMANCY!
(who ran away screaming at that?)
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The so called "homophobia" that is rampant in this thread is not bigotry, it is not motivated by hate, or fear, or intolerance. It is more to do with the fact that the oppressed majority is sick to death of having this PC bullshit slammed on us day in day out... kind of like non-religious people are sick of having the god-botherers ramming their beliefs down our throats.

What you do in your own home is your choice. How you live your life is your choice. Don't hate me because I don't live your way... and stop trying to change the world to suit your lifestyle... I'm not going to go into the whole laws of nature etc thing, suffice to say that the majority are the majority for a reason. Just because you are different does not mean your way is the right way.

Explain to me why it is that if a heterosexual white male expresses an opinion they are immediately labelled as a racist/bigot/homophobe/hater yet any "minority" can express their opinions freely?

Case in point: an indigenous child (of maybe 10 or 12) asked me for a cigarette the other day (true story). I refused. He then slung a disgusting mouthful of abuse at me calling me things like "racist white c*nt" etc, accusing me of refusing his request because of his skin colour, when in fact I only refused him because he was clearly a child. I have had a similar experience with a white kid, difference being the only abuse I got from him was to be called an "asshole" for saying no.
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blacklimoband: The so called "homophobia" that is rampant in this thread is not bigotry, it is not motivated by hate, or fear, or intolerance. It is more to do with the fact that the oppressed majority is sick to death of having this PC bullshit slammed on us day in day out... kind of like non-religious people are sick of having the god-botherers ramming their beliefs down our throats.

What you do in your own home is your choice. How you live your life is your choice. Don't hate me because I don't live your way... and stop trying to change the world to suit your lifestyle... I'm not going to go into the whole laws of nature etc thing, suffice to say that the majority are the majority for a reason. Just because you are different does not mean your way is the right way.

Explain to me why it is that if a heterosexual white male expresses an opinion they are immediately labelled as a racist/bigot/homophobe/hater yet any "minority" can express their opinions freely?

Case in point: an indigenous child (of maybe 10 or 12) asked me for a cigarette the other day (true story). I refused. He then slung a disgusting mouthful of abuse at me calling me things like "racist white c*nt" etc, accusing me of refusing his request because of his skin colour, when in fact I only refused him because he was clearly a child. I have had a similar experience with a white kid, difference being the only abuse I got from him was to be called an "asshole" for saying no.
+100 rep, fight the good fight brother!
I'm just waiting for the "Why ain't Geralt a brutha" thread... wait, no-one's complained about the lack of African people in this game... what's going on CDPR? Racist bigot mutha plowers!!!!!

See how easy that was?


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Snarfinator: +100 rep, fight the good fight brother!
Thanks man :)
Post edited May 30, 2011 by blacklimoband
You seem very sensitive about this topic.

I do not understand why Geralt's sexual orientation is a problem. This is after all just a game, does it really matter? Is it the central focus of the game? Apparently for some it is... In terms of play time though, it has barely any relevance. Kudos to Bioware for starting this pitiful trend...

Militating for rights is all right, but this is completely out of place. Do it where it matters, or where people actually care please...
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blacklimoband: I'm just waiting for the "Why ain't Geralt a brutha" thread... wait, no-one's complained about the lack of African people in this game... what's going on CDPR? Racist bigot mutha plowers!!!!!

See how easy that was?


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Snarfinator: +100 rep, fight the good fight brother!
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blacklimoband: Thanks man :)
No Asians either! gasp! and no female Witchers!
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blacklimoband: I'm just waiting for the "Why ain't Geralt a brutha" thread... wait, no-one's complained about the lack of African people in this game... what's going on CDPR? Racist bigot mutha plowers!!!!!

See how easy that was?




Thanks man :)
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Snarfinator: No Asians either! gasp! and no female Witchers!
And why am I not able to do it with the drowners, ogres or nekkers? Hmmm that bug queen seemed to like me a lot...
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Snarfinator: No Asians either! gasp! and no female Witchers!
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gilozoaire: And why am I not able to do it with the drowners, ogres or nekkers? Hmmm that bug queen seemed to like me a lot...
I have the solution.... one that will address the lack of homosexuality and the racism...

A mod that allows Geralt get hot n heavy with the bridge troll.... anyone got some leet animating skillz? Actually, depending on who's bending over, he may need a "special" oil too....
Post edited May 30, 2011 by blacklimoband
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Homesexuality is not normal, is it? Only a minority of the popuplation is gay. All others who think to be gay are to dumb to get a girl/wife/woman. We live in a sick world with childrapists, homosexuals, transexuals, animalf!ckers etc.... and all of them think it is normal to accept their sick lifestyle everywhere in the real world. And now that *#§ came and want to ruin videogames with this crappy lifestyle. There was a time in history when people got killed for that.
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TRVTRV: Homesexuality is not normal, is it? Only a minority of the popuplation is gay. All others who think to be gay are to dumb to get a girl/wife/woman. We live in a sick world with childrapists, homosexuals, transexuals, animalf!ckers etc.... and all of them think it is normal to accept their sick lifestyle everywhere in the real world. And now that *#§ came and want to ruin videogames with this crappy lifestyle. There was a time in history when people got killed for that.
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Posting from Germany, ah the Irony