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The game works fine... Windows 8.1 and running great.

The problem is that the keyboard mapping was moronic even after trying to remap and it needs a joystick. Any advice on a cheap joystick solution?
There is no such beast as a Windows 8.1 joystick... I play on my laptop with the track pad and keyboard just fine but good luck.
Actully under 8.1 my Precision 2 works fine, used it last night in SFA
Do USB Joysticks work fine on this version? They don't on my CD Copy.
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Tuskin38: Do USB Joysticks work fine on this version? They don't on my CD Copy.
Hi! Yes, a USB joystick should be working fine :)
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Tuskin38: Do USB Joysticks work fine on this version? They don't on my CD Copy.
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katatonicone: Hi! Yes, a USB joystick should be working fine :)
Thank you
Can't play the game with my X360 controller...ship keeps spinning to one side. I tried recalibrating but it's no use. Any suggestions?
I'm having a similar issue with my Sidewinder USB. When I try to calibrate using the in game option, I'm never prompted to calibrate the lower right-hand corner. I had the same issue when I used to try to run the original discs on Windows 7. I asked GOG support for help and they suggested a keyword emulator. I will one, but it's still not optimal. I would revert to my old Sidewinder gameport joystick but they are no longer supported starting with Windows Vista.

Very disappointed, as I have been waiting for this game to make it's way to GOG for a long time.
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benwol94: I'm having a similar issue with my Sidewinder USB. When I try to calibrate using the in game option, I'm never prompted to calibrate the lower right-hand corner.
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Rhystic_One: Can't play the game with my X360 controller...ship keeps spinning to one side. I tried recalibrating but it's no use. Any suggestions?
There is a problem mentioned by benwol94 that the game skips the bottom right-hand corner during the calibration. In the fresh installation of the game the defaults in the config file provided by us work on most of the joysticks, so there is no need for recalibration. My advice is to reinstall the game and go with the defaults, do not recalibrate your controllers.
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Rhystic_One: Can't play the game with my X360 controller...ship keeps spinning to one side. I tried recalibrating but it's no use. Any suggestions?
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katatonicone: There is a problem mentioned by benwol94 that the game skips the bottom right-hand corner during the calibration. In the fresh installation of the game the defaults in the config file provided by us work on most of the joysticks, so there is no need for recalibration. My advice is to reinstall the game and go with the defaults, do not recalibrate your controllers.
Thanks so much! That did the trick. I also tried the keyboard emulation, which actually didn't work too badly, given that the motion controls for the game are fairly simple.
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benwol94: Thanks so much! That did the trick. I also tried the keyboard emulation, which actually didn't work too badly, given that the motion controls for the game are fairly simple.
That's fantastic. I wish you much success in your missions!
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Rhystic_One: Can't play the game with my X360 controller...ship keeps spinning to one side. I tried recalibrating but it's no use. Any suggestions?
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katatonicone: There is a problem mentioned by benwol94 that the game skips the bottom right-hand corner during the calibration. In the fresh installation of the game the defaults in the config file provided by us work on most of the joysticks, so there is no need for recalibration. My advice is to reinstall the game and go with the defaults, do not recalibrate your controllers.
Amazing! Thanks so much!
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socal242: Any advice on a cheap joystick solution?
The prelevant choices for around 50 or less seem to be the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro and the Thrustmaster T16000M.

I went with the latter and I've been quite happy with it. It has flimsy buttons and a flimsy throttle lever but very high end accuracy which shouldn't wear out over time thanks to the magnetic sensors. It's so accurate I don't need any deadzone set up in any game, there's no drift ever (where for example if I used the Xbox 360 controller for newer such games that supported it there would often be constant drift unless I set a very large deadzone that then made it harder to control accurately given the low range of movement with much of it negated for the deadzone), it seems perfectly centered and every direction seems perfectly calibrated.

The Extreme 3D Pro instead as far as I can tell has slightly more and better buttons and a better throttle lever but it uses potentiometers which are potentially less accurate and will wear out over time as they're not high end ones.

For my choice I considered that a cheap joystick by itself no matter how many buttons it has will not match up to a high end setup with a separate throttle and will most likely require use of the keyboard for additional functions in all but the oldest and/or simplest games in the genre so I may as well use my thrusters on the keyboard alongside all the other functions rather than alternate my left hand's placement to utilize the little throttle and base buttons that may be on offer regardless of their quality.

The above negated some of the flaws of the T16000M so I went with it for its highly praised accuracy. Still, I would have liked a couple more buttons on the stick itself for some primary functions (not on the base, as I said I find those mostly useless due to the placement and neither joystick has very many there) which the 3D Pro does offer alongside all of them being less flimsy, so yeah, the choice is totally yours.

Oh yeah, as a bonus the T16000M is also left hand friendly, you can change the orientation of the thumb rest since it's detachable as there are no button internals on it unlike the Extreme 3D Pro. Of course, both being cheap products other parts of their internals could die over time but there are reports of them lasting long and not so long. I can't guarantee anything but both should have enough of a warranty when new to not be afraid that they will need to be paid for again within a year or something.

Additionally, I wouldn't advice going for something cheaper than these like the Thrustmaster T Flight Hotas X (or even just the T Flight joystick) or the Speedlink Black Widow I was eyeing previously because they're way more unproven and any good review and report is accompanied by many bad ones for pretty much all their aspects, from accuracy to comfort to featureset to durability.

If instead you have around 200 to spare I would go with a CH Products Fighterstick (or the slightly lower end and cheaper Combatstick, it offers much the same quality but less buttons and switches, still quite a few of those though) and CH Products Pro Throttle for what appears to be the ultimate price to performance to features ratio set up that will be suitable for pretty much every such game.

These are apparently made with high quality industrial grade plastic and use potentiometers of similarly high quality so they will likely outlast you. Later on and if the Pro Throttle's built-in analog stick (needed for yaw because the CH stuff don't have a twist axis for yaw or whatever you'd map it to, which isn't so bad) proves insufficient for your advancement to elite pilot status you can also get the CH pedals which are also great for their price. This setup will last longer than any of the others in that price range (so, mostly overpriced Saitek HOTAS products) and match up to the far higher end and far more expensive stuff while there are many reports of decade old non-USB units (the only design change for the recent stuff by CH is that they're now USB based, otherwise they'r of identical build and quality) still working good as new.

I got that setup without the pedals for a while and the main functions seemed as awesome as I'd been told but the units were possibly used instead of new and defective in some ways (actually a certain part of the throttle was shifting around when pressured so something was broken for sure, while some hat switches didn't register reliably).

The retailer I had chosen however (SimWare Simulations) ignored me for months after I shipped them back for inspection (and they confirmed receiving them) expecting replacements, then claimed there were no issues found, so when they finally did something again after I raised a stink about it and finally got in touch with people from their company and parent company (Aerosoft), I opted for a refund rather than deal with their insufferable customer support all over again for new or simply re-returned units.

By that time I had been soured on the whole thing and went for a cheap set up as I'm no hardcore sim enthusiast anyway, but I still miss having those things, so solid and with more possible built in functions than most games will ever need negating the need for the keyboard or whatever else completely. A proper HOTAS, not like the cheap stuff, but a price that felt at the very least right if not a bargain.

That's all I got on the subject.
Post edited May 12, 2015 by Al3xand3r
If you want to really appreciate this game though, get a 90's joystick, most of the good ones are still working just fine, like my Precision 2 bought new in 99 lol
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Rhystic_One: Can't play the game with my X360 controller...ship keeps spinning to one side. I tried recalibrating but it's no use. Any suggestions?
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katatonicone: There is a problem mentioned by benwol94 that the game skips the bottom right-hand corner during the calibration. In the fresh installation of the game the defaults in the config file provided by us work on most of the joysticks, so there is no need for recalibration. My advice is to reinstall the game and go with the defaults, do not recalibrate your controllers.
This fix has not worked at all for me, I get the spinning even in a fresh install. I have a CH Fighterstick

Update: Never mind, I just tried again making absolutely sure that the folder got deleted during the uninstall this time and now it is working fine.
Post edited May 12, 2015 by Gol_Stoan