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In addition, ClassicRebirth 3 eliminates of the shaking of the polygons with it's perspective correction. GOG most likely will not fix this in their RE3 release.
Post edited September 07, 2024 by MartinSp
^ 100% won't be fixed. They can't just shoehorn some assembly patch or use a wrapper and expect it to generate perspective correct polygons. RE3 is gonna look like doo doo, basically the same as the Dreamcast port.
Post edited September 07, 2024 by GeminiREbirth
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Dr Gustav: What is the benefit of installing Classic REbirth over the GOG versions? Genuine question as I'm trying to figure out if I should stop playing the GC version of RE2 and switch to PC.
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mvp13: Biggest thing you'll notice right away... you know how the game stutters or pauses every time you change camera angles on any console version? That doesn't happen on any PC version, so that is a plus. There is a setting in DuckStation that fixes this, but I don't know if it's on Dolphin. I know it's not on FlyCast.

Any PC version of re2 has a Hard Mode. re2 is notoriously the easiest fixed-camera Resident Evil game. I guess this depends on you, but playing the Hard Mode is the biggest draw for me, as Normal Mode is just not fun, and barely survival horror. Hard Mode is available on the DreamCast version, but it contains the stutters mentioned in the first point, so it's not ideal.

GOG re2 has some issues... it plays as the two disc version of the game, so you have to exit and re-load to change characters, some rooms don't have music that should, there is no controller vibration, and it has no base modding support. Classic Rebirth re2 makes the game play as one disc, fixes the rooms that don't have music, has controller vibration, and it has modding support. Those are the major differences. GOG can (probably?) fix the music issue, but re1 also didn't have controller vibration, so I assume that will remain. Ditto on the 2 disc thing, and the modding support is up to the community, I suppose.

Other than that, and besides Hard Mode, they are all pretty much the same game.
In which rooms is there no music in the GOG port? I didn't know about that detail...
Outside RPD (front and back), in Marvin's office, probably somewhere else I forgot. Also pls, let's not call it the "GOG port", GOG didn't port anything. This is just Platinum Edition with a bunch minor patches, so same bugs as the base game.
Post edited September 07, 2024 by GeminiREbirth
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GeminiREbirth: Outside RPD (front and back), in Marvin's office, probably somewhere else I forgot. Also pls, let's not call it the "GOG port", GOG didn't port anything. This is just Platinum Edition with a bunch minor patches, so same bugs as the base game.
Ah thanks, if you're right, my bad for calling it that way, I guess those sound errors are solved with the High Quality sound patch (by lexas87)?
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Dr Gustav: What is the benefit of installing Classic REbirth over the GOG versions? Genuine question as I'm trying to figure out if I should stop playing the GC version of RE2 and switch to PC.
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mvp13: Biggest thing you'll notice right away... you know how the game stutters or pauses every time you change camera angles on any console version? That doesn't happen on any PC version, so that is a plus. There is a setting in DuckStation that fixes this, but I don't know if it's on Dolphin. I know it's not on FlyCast.
I tried emulating the REmaster on Dolphin and couldn't find any configuration to fix this.
What's the settings on Duckstation to solve this kind of freezing on PS1 games? May you share it? Thanks.

Also, why this happens on console versions but not on PCs?
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mvp13: Biggest thing you'll notice right away... you know how the game stutters or pauses every time you change camera angles on any console version? That doesn't happen on any PC version, so that is a plus. There is a setting in DuckStation that fixes this, but I don't know if it's on Dolphin. I know it's not on FlyCast.
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.Keys: I tried emulating the REmaster on Dolphin and couldn't find any configuration to fix this.
What's the settings on Duckstation to solve this kind of freezing on PS1 games? May you share it? Thanks.

Also, why this happens on console versions but not on PCs?
In DuckStation, go to Console Settings, scroll to CD-ROM Emulation, and turn Read Speedup to 10x (20x Speed) and Seek Speedup to Infinite/Instantaneous. Note that it says it moght break games, but it works on the fixed camera games I've tried it with no crashes. Might want to turn it off if you are playing something else just in case.

As for why? Think PCs can just read the discs much faster than the old ps1. But it's weird ps1 has better audio than PC, haha...
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mvp13: (...)
Thanks for the tips!
Also, OP updated.

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Managed to organize the OP a bit more to falicitate the visualization of the links.
Hopefully it feels less bloated.
Post edited September 08, 2024 by .Keys
Okay so something I'm confused about. Are the mp4 fmvs and high quality sounds mods included in the team X HD mods, the seamless HD conversion of the team X mod, or classic rebirth in general?

I ask cause there is an awful lot of overwriting of the same files going on with setting this stuff up, and I'm not sure which are the newest files.
I'm not affiliated with SHDP or TeamX, but all I can say is that Doze_D from the Seamless HD Project upscaled the FMVs for RE1 new from scratch. He didn't work on the RE2 FMVs though, because the Sourcenext FMVs are passable as they're in 480p.

However, I'm pretty sure that the Seamless HD Project didn't use any of the TeamX materials. They have converted their own work into the TeamX naming system.
Post edited September 09, 2024 by MartinSp
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Arathian.837: Okay so something I'm confused about. Are the mp4 fmvs and high quality sounds mods included in the team X HD mods, the seamless HD conversion of the team X mod, or classic rebirth in general?

I ask cause there is an awful lot of overwriting of the same files going on with setting this stuff up, and I'm not sure which are the newest files.
Sorry, but I also have no idea.

Created this thread as a way to come back to it later as a reference for patches, mods and so on but I've not even bought the trilogy yet. Still waiting for the whole trilogy to be here first.

But by what I understand, this would be the order of installation, depending on what you want to install:
Unofficial SourceNext Patch > Classic Rebirth Patches and Resources > HQ Video and Audio mods > Seamless HD or HD Mod
It doesn't seem to make sense to use both Seamless HD and HD mod together as they'd change same textures and this would go down to personal preference.

Anyone that has already modded GOG's RE1 and RE2 may clarify though.
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Arathian.837: Okay so something I'm confused about. Are the mp4 fmvs and high quality sounds mods included in the team X HD mods, the seamless HD conversion of the team X mod, or classic rebirth in general?

I ask cause there is an awful lot of overwriting of the same files going on with setting this stuff up, and I'm not sure which are the newest files.
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.Keys: Sorry, but I also have no idea.

Created this thread as a way to come back to it later as a reference for patches, mods and so on but I've not even bought the trilogy yet. Still waiting for the whole trilogy to be here first.

But by what I understand, this would be the order of installation, depending on what you want to install:

Unofficial SourceNext Patch > Classic Rebirth Patches and Resources > HQ Video and Audio mods > Seamless HD or HD Mod
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.Keys: It doesn't seem to make sense to use both Seamless HD and HD mod together as they'd change same textures and this would go down to personal preference.

Anyone that has already modded GOG's RE1 and RE2 may clarify though.
You absolutely do need the TeamX HD mod, this is because it's currently not possible to directly replace HD textures in Classic Rebirth or the base games. At the very least, you need their bioXhd.asi files for each game. In addition, and I forget the exact specifics or for which games, but SHDP doesn't overwrite every single file per say; they kept the game file textures from TeamX HD. SHDP doesn't ship just what you need out of respect for TeamX HD, so it's best to install TeamX HD, then SHDP over top of it. Yes, it's a lot of overwriting, but this is the state of the current way of doing things.

For the install order, what I did or would do is:

Japanese GOG > conversion patch for re2 (not needed for re1) > classic rebirth dll and updated .exe files > teamx HD mod > shdp HD mod > HQ audio mods (it's hard to say if TeamX already comes with these... it's better to just make sure, since the HQ mods have been updated since TeamX anyway) > if you are happy with the movies, then stay with them, otherwise check out the multiple movie mods (whether it's the HQ ones, or the ones that remove subtitles).
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.Keys: Thanks for the tips!
Hey, I just wanted to share about the DuckStation thing... this is a very per-game setting. It's not one size fits all. The settings I recommended originally seem to only work with re1. For re3, I couldn't go over 5x for both settings. For Dino Crisis, I couldn't go over 2x for both settings. Unfortunately, you'll just need to play with it and make per-game settings, but it definitely can work. I know this is off topic, but I just wanted to throw that out there. You'll know if it works or not when you go to open a door. It'll infinitely load if you have the setting too fast. Obviously the lower the setting, the more jarring the transitions are, so you'll want to test this considerably to get as fast as possible.
Post edited September 09, 2024 by mvp13
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.Keys: Sorry, but I also have no idea.

Created this thread as a way to come back to it later as a reference for patches, mods and so on but I've not even bought the trilogy yet. Still waiting for the whole trilogy to be here first.

But by what I understand, this would be the order of installation, depending on what you want to install:

It doesn't seem to make sense to use both Seamless HD and HD mod together as they'd change same textures and this would go down to personal preference.

Anyone that has already modded GOG's RE1 and RE2 may clarify though.
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mvp13: You absolutely do need the TeamX HD mod, this is because it's currently not possible to directly replace HD textures in Classic Rebirth or the base games. At the very least, you need their bioXhd.asi files for each game. In addition, and I forget the exact specifics or for which games, but SHDP doesn't overwrite every single file per say; they kept the game file textures from TeamX HD. SHDP doesn't ship just what you need out of respect for TeamX HD, so it's best to install TeamX HD, then SHDP over top of it. Yes, it's a lot of overwriting, but this is the state of the current way of doing things.

For the install order, what I did or would do is:

Japanese GOG > conversion patch for re2 (not needed for re1) > classic rebirth dll and updated .exe files > teamx HD mod > shdp HD mod > HQ audio mods (it's hard to say if TeamX already comes with these... it's better to just make sure, since the HQ mods have been updated since TeamX anyway) > if you are happy with the movies, then stay with them, otherwise check out the multiple movie mods (whether it's the HQ ones, or the ones that remove subtitles).
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.Keys: Thanks for the tips!
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mvp13: Hey, I just wanted to share about the DuckStation thing... this is a very per-game setting. It's not one size fits all. The settings I recommended originally seem to only work with re1. For re3, I couldn't go over 5x for both settings. For Dino Crisis, I couldn't go over 2x for both settings. Unfortunately, you'll just need to play with it and make per-game settings, but it definitely can work. I know this is off topic, but I just wanted to throw that out there. You'll know if it works or not when you go to open a door. It'll infinitely load if you have the setting too fast. Obviously the lower the setting, the more jarring the transitions are, so you'll want to test this considerably to get as fast as possible.
Do you need to do the Japanese language GOG version of RE2 for it to work? I did the English and it seemed to work for the most part. The only things I'm not sure about is I saw that a few of the readables forget words- like the the report about the licker they say "lance like" and skip tongue and say capable of piecing a man's torso, or have odd spaces in them, and I don't know if the classic rebirth or seamless FMVs were higher quality than the high quality/MP4 ones, same with the audio.

Though that may be (the text) just an issue with the sourcenet, then Rebirth conversion. The game seems to be working but I'm debating on installing in a different order.

Cause I think I did GOG(english launcher not sure if that matters) then sourcenet, rebirth,HD, HD seamless, then the audio and the fmv files.
Post edited September 09, 2024 by Arathian.837
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mvp13: You absolutely do need the TeamX HD mod, this is because it's currently not possible to directly replace HD textures in Classic Rebirth or the base games. At the very least, you need their bioXhd.asi files for each game. In addition, and I forget the exact specifics or for which games, but SHDP doesn't overwrite every single file per say; they kept the game file textures from TeamX HD. SHDP doesn't ship just what you need out of respect for TeamX HD, so it's best to install TeamX HD, then SHDP over top of it. Yes, it's a lot of overwriting, but this is the state of the current way of doing things.

For the install order, what I did or would do is:

Japanese GOG > conversion patch for re2 (not needed for re1) > classic rebirth dll and updated .exe files > teamx HD mod > shdp HD mod > HQ audio mods (it's hard to say if TeamX already comes with these... it's better to just make sure, since the HQ mods have been updated since TeamX anyway) > if you are happy with the movies, then stay with them, otherwise check out the multiple movie mods (whether it's the HQ ones, or the ones that remove subtitles).

Hey, I just wanted to share about the DuckStation thing... this is a very per-game setting. It's not one size fits all. The settings I recommended originally seem to only work with re1. For re3, I couldn't go over 5x for both settings. For Dino Crisis, I couldn't go over 2x for both settings. Unfortunately, you'll just need to play with it and make per-game settings, but it definitely can work. I know this is off topic, but I just wanted to throw that out there. You'll know if it works or not when you go to open a door. It'll infinitely load if you have the setting too fast. Obviously the lower the setting, the more jarring the transitions are, so you'll want to test this considerably to get as fast as possible.
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Arathian.837: Do you need to do the Japanese language GOG version of RE2 for it to work? I did the English and it seemed to work for the most part. The only things I'm not sure about is I saw that a few of the readables forget words- like the the report about the licker they say "lance like" and skip tongue and say capable of piecing a man's torso, or have odd spaces in them, and I don't know if the classic rebirth or seamless FMVs were higher quality than the high quality/MP4 ones, same with the audio.

Though that may be (the text) just an issue with the sourcenet, then Rebirth conversion. The game seems to be working but I'm debating on installing in a different order.

Cause I think I did GOG(english launcher not sure if that matters) then sourcenet, rebirth,HD, HD seamless, then the audio and the fmv files.
Yes, it should be the Japanese version like it says everywhere haha. You'll notice if you go in pl0 or pl1, there will be a RDU and RDT folder... you're only supposed to have one of those. RDT for Japanese, RDU for English. I guess all the mods contain everything else you need for the Japanese version. Kinda funny that works. Frankly I remember the tongue typo, so I'm not sure it's worth your time to do it all over again, unless storage space is important to ya
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Arathian.837: Do you need to do the Japanese language GOG version of RE2 for it to work? I did the English and it seemed to work for the most part. The only things I'm not sure about is I saw that a few of the readables forget words- like the the report about the licker they say "lance like" and skip tongue and say capable of piecing a man's torso, or have odd spaces in them, and I don't know if the classic rebirth or seamless FMVs were higher quality than the high quality/MP4 ones, same with the audio.

Though that may be (the text) just an issue with the sourcenet, then Rebirth conversion. The game seems to be working but I'm debating on installing in a different order.

Cause I think I did GOG(english launcher not sure if that matters) then sourcenet, rebirth,HD, HD seamless, then the audio and the fmv files.
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mvp13: Yes, it should be the Japanese version like it says everywhere haha. You'll notice if you go in pl0 or pl1, there will be a RDU and RDT folder... you're only supposed to have one of those. RDT for Japanese, RDU for English. I guess all the mods contain everything else you need for the Japanese version. Kinda funny that works. Frankly I remember the tongue typo, so I'm not sure it's worth your time to do it all over again, unless storage space is important to ya
It seems weird it works if it's suppose to be done off of the Japanese version. When mine boots up it shows, and does the engrish sourcenet jingle, the opening screen says resident evil 2 and not biohazard(honesty while it's hard to stop calling it RE now, Biohazard it's a better name really) but I played it on arrange and it seems like it has the same enemy placement and amount I remembered when I bought the game in like 1998 for PSX.

I wonder if me doing the English version messes anything up or not. By Japanese, you'd use the- I'm using the offline installer(galaxy doesn't seem to work the best for me and I like the offline if they suddenly decide to stop having the games up) so if I was to do it again with the Japanese I assume I just scroll down with the language option when I click on the installer and go down to the kanji option(I assume it's kanji anyway)
Post edited September 09, 2024 by Arathian.837