Hi all,
I want to get hold of the FJC mod for RB3D but at $30 from their ebay store that frankly seems pretty steep for a 7-year old mod, let alone a 13-year old game! i don't want to cheat the makers of FCJ of there hard work but is there anywhere else to get it cheaper?

You could always contact them directly via ebay or their site and try to barter with them. Just tell em you are intrested in the mod but not at $30 and see if they will sell it to you for $15-20 or whatever your willing to pay.

that seems sensible i'll give it a go, thanks ralackk

Yea I figure it can't hurt to ask them, the worst they can say is no.

The "Promised Land" site has been sold and it is now a virus-laden no-mans land.

"The "Promised Land" site has been sold and it is now a virus-laden no-mans land."
you must have the old "plgrafx" link .. site is now http://www.fullcanvasjacket.com/

That I do. Sadly, that is what comes up on a search for "promised land". I'll have to check the link out. Interesting, though, that about two years ago I got the FCJ mod from E-bay for $20 (US).

So I'm late to this one, but as I have time now and then to play with RB3D, I'm going back to research things like FCJ. I don't see anywhere to get it now, is there anywhere I could buy a copy from somebody else?? Is this something that might be found to buy from a member of one of the old forums?

Also, I'm running the Western Front Patch at this time, but I'd also been running the Hells Angels Super Patch prior to this, and found the flight controls more...fluid? I am curious, WFP seems to indicate it is compatible with FCJ, but does FCJ have any effect on the way the controls handle?

Maybe it's just the fact that I'm flying a Fokker DVIII, and it was a late design, but it feels like I'm steering a slug through the air. I guess the fact that I seem to be flying agains SPADS might have something else to do with it....

As things would have it I have a copy of FCJ,purchased years ago. As I was just able to get RB3d running on my 64 bit system.thanks to GOG. I have instaled FCJ and played it for 2 days just this week.

Let me tell you I had forgotten how awful FCJ really was.

Don't get me wrong,the planes are super beautiful. The downside is that FCJ ruined gameplay by making it so hard to score a kill. They "hardened" the planes so much that it is nearly impossible to score a kill. You can turn up the bullet mass density to a full 250 via FCJ's control panel but it makes little difference. For example I did a Fly Now mission pitting a Spad XIII against a Hanley Page Bomber. With unlimited ammo turned on it took me a full 20 minutes to shoot it down. This with opponet set at novice level.

What this means in game play is that campaigns will be very frustrating. FCJ could do nothing about curbing the way AI fly your opponets. They zoom around ignoring the laws of physics. Lets say you are flying an Albatros and run into a flight of Neiuport IIs. You should be able to defeat them rather easily but not in FCJ. They zoom around like jet aircraft while you plod along barely able to make headway. In other words..your first mission will likely be your last.

So for my 2 cents worth be glad that you can't get hold of a copy. I know a lot of people will probably disagree with this but there it is, I've played RB since it first came in the very beginning. For me FCJ is great eye candy but not much more than that.

There are other mods too that aren't as polished but quite good such as HASP (Hell's Angels Super Patch) SP3 and the latest addition allows flying bombers.

Did you set the preferences to Full Authentic? Torque and G forces on. RB3D mods for SP are always full on, easy flight models can cause serious glitches.

That is all I fly on for the most part.

If you want to see how the AI planes are not affected with the "AUTHENTIC" settings you choose for yourself.---go to Fly Now.

Choose the Hadberstadt II for yourelf and also for your opponent. Set your opponent to Novice. I'll bet that when you fly the mission your opponent will in most cases shoot you down or you will tear your wings off trying to evade and position for a shot. As you fly carefully-trying to stay within the flight capabilities of the plane-your opponent will be zooming all over,up and down, defying gravity, the laws of physics, and the structural weakness of the Hab.
That is just an inherent weakness of the RB game. Most of the Super Patches exacerbate this flaw when they change the FM or hardness of the craft.

It is good we have the French Campaign Manager to ressurect dead pilots or else flying Authentic against an out of control AI would change your Campaign to a CamPAIN. LOL.

Someone get a release - I still have copies.

EDIT - When I installed FCJ it caused the crashes to begin again.

First it causes the check disc to be resurrected.
I am wondering if the batch file pointing to FCJ would work?

Anyone?